Is it possible to get Vista running as quickly as XP?

Hi,

I have Vista running in dual boot mode on a C2D 2.0ghz laptop (2 gigs
ram). I usually run in XP as it seems to be much faster. Are there
tweaks I can do to make Vista run with the same amount of get up & go?

Thanks,
Rich


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RichTJ99

"RichTJ99" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hi,
>
> I have Vista running in dual boot mode on a C2D 2.0ghz laptop (2 gigs
> ram). I usually run in XP as it seems to be much faster. Are there
> tweaks I can do to make Vista run with the same amount of get up & go?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
>
> --
> RichTJ99

Both Operating Systems On The Same Computer. Of Course XP Will Run Faster.
Just FYI. Vista Has Much More To It. You Can Search Google For Tips On
Making Vista Run Quicker But XP Will Always Run Faster. Just FYI

All programs I say here are free.. follow the guide and if you have more
questions ask...

you can improve vistas performance, but its impossible to get vista to work
as fast as a fine-tuned XP...
The best you can get vista is 15% slower than xp, but that means you will
have a 15% boost from the default
30% slower vista is.

Here is my list of things you can do, if you need any help in any of these
post back

1) disable all non essential startup programs (start>in the search box type
msconfig, press enter, go to the startup tab)
OR/AND download autoruns, see what is going on there!
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx
1b) with autoruns disable all non essential internet explorer add ons
t(oolbars etc)

2) disable all non essential services
Reference site: http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/servicecfg.htm

3) Disable all non essential WINDOWS explorer add ons (shell extensions)
with Nirsoft shellexview (right click run as administrator to do this)
(see download on the bottom of page)
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shexview.html

4) download ccleaner from here: http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/
and clean up the TRASH from your disk

5) Create a new restore point, and use the disk clean up utility to clean up
old restore points THEN AFTER DOING 4 and 5 go to step 6
To do this correctly see this page
http://www.emachines.com/faq/vista/ck2007032859.html
and SCROLL DOWN TO WHERE IT SAYS>>>>
Removing all but the most recent restore point

6) Defragment your drive using a better-than-the-crap vista defrag, get it
here (free)
http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/disk-defrag


WARNING>>>DO NOT turn off AERO GLASS as some might say, you will have LESS
performance since the in non aero
vista has absolutely NO acceleration in drawing the various windows objects
(unlike XP that DOES!!!!)

But you can turn off some of the vista effects...

7) Disable Visual Effects: Right click on Computer, and choose Properties,
Click on Advanced System Settings, and then under Advanced, click Settings,
Select the "Visual Effects" tab then disable a few of those, DO NOT set for
best performance or your AERO GLASS theme will turn off.. and as I said
before that's WORSE!

Tell me if this helps



"RichTJ99" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hi,
>
> I have Vista running in dual boot mode on a C2D 2.0ghz laptop (2 gigs
> ram). I usually run in XP as it seems to be much faster. Are there
> tweaks I can do to make Vista run with the same amount of get up & go?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich
>
>
> --
> RichTJ99

some more tips about using AUTORUNS AND SHELLEXVIEW that I talked about in
my previous post

Autoruns> go to options and select HIDE MICROSOFT ENTRIES so you wont
disable the MS stuff

SHELLEXVIEW > disable ONLY the stuff highlighted in PINK and only if you are
sure you dont need them

both the actions in autoruns and shellexview are reversable, just recheck
the entries if you decide you need something.

USE GOOGLE as a reference if you dont know something, or you can always
right click on the item and search for more info online!!!

GOOD LUCK!


"orange" <> wrote in message
news:47ed431e$...
> All programs I say here are free.. follow the guide and if you have more
> questions ask...
>
> you can improve vistas performance, but its impossible to get vista to
> work as fast as a fine-tuned XP...
> The best you can get vista is 15% slower than xp, but that means you will
> have a 15% boost from the default
> 30% slower vista is.
>
> Here is my list of things you can do, if you need any help in any of these
> post back
>
> 1) disable all non essential startup programs (start>in the search box
> type msconfig, press enter, go to the startup tab)
> OR/AND download autoruns, see what is going on there!
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx
> 1b) with autoruns disable all non essential internet explorer add ons
> t(oolbars etc)
>
> 2) disable all non essential services
> Reference site: http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/servicecfg.htm
>
> 3) Disable all non essential WINDOWS explorer add ons (shell extensions)
> with Nirsoft shellexview (right click run as administrator to do this)
> (see download on the bottom of page)
> http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shexview.html
>
> 4) download ccleaner from here:
> http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/
> and clean up the TRASH from your disk
>
> 5) Create a new restore point, and use the disk clean up utility to clean
> up old restore points THEN AFTER DOING 4 and 5 go to step 6
> To do this correctly see this page
> http://www.emachines.com/faq/vista/ck2007032859.html
> and SCROLL DOWN TO WHERE IT SAYS>>>>
> Removing all but the most recent restore point
>
> 6) Defragment your drive using a better-than-the-crap vista defrag, get it
> here (free)
> http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/disk-defrag
>
>
> WARNING>>>DO NOT turn off AERO GLASS as some might say, you will have LESS
> performance since the in non aero
> vista has absolutely NO acceleration in drawing the various windows
> objects (unlike XP that DOES!!!!)
>
> But you can turn off some of the vista effects...
>
> 7) Disable Visual Effects: Right click on Computer, and choose Properties,
> Click on Advanced System Settings, and then under Advanced, click
> Settings, Select the "Visual Effects" tab then disable a few of those, DO
> NOT set for best performance or your AERO GLASS theme will turn off.. and
> as I said before that's WORSE!
>
> Tell me if this helps
>
>
>
> "RichTJ99" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have Vista running in dual boot mode on a C2D 2.0ghz laptop (2 gigs
>> ram). I usually run in XP as it seems to be much faster. Are there
>> tweaks I can do to make Vista run with the same amount of get up & go?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rich
>>
>>
>> --
>> RichTJ99
>
>

Wow! All seriously good tips.

I've also set a good number of my greedy programs to use a single core i.e.
set the affinity. Seems to work for me. And I disabled the Vista backup
module since I use a 3rd party program. Also limited the shadow copy size
i.e. the amount of space used for restore points. Oh and ReadyBoost is
disabled on my system - it was useless.

I'm sure there's tons of other things that can be done, but it depends on
what you're running and how you use your system I guess. Thanks again for the
additional tips.

"orange" wrote:

> some more tips about using AUTORUNS AND SHELLEXVIEW that I talked about in
> my previous post
>
> Autoruns> go to options and select HIDE MICROSOFT ENTRIES so you wont
> disable the MS stuff
>
> SHELLEXVIEW > disable ONLY the stuff highlighted in PINK and only if you are
> sure you dont need them
>
> both the actions in autoruns and shellexview are reversable, just recheck
> the entries if you decide you need something.
>
> USE GOOGLE as a reference if you dont know something, or you can always
> right click on the item and search for more info online!!!
>
> GOOD LUCK!
>
>
> "orange" <> wrote in message
> news:47ed431e$...
> > All programs I say here are free.. follow the guide and if you have more
> > questions ask...
> >
> > you can improve vistas performance, but its impossible to get vista to
> > work as fast as a fine-tuned XP...
> > The best you can get vista is 15% slower than xp, but that means you will
> > have a 15% boost from the default
> > 30% slower vista is.
> >
> > Here is my list of things you can do, if you need any help in any of these
> > post back
> >
> > 1) disable all non essential startup programs (start>in the search box
> > type msconfig, press enter, go to the startup tab)
> > OR/AND download autoruns, see what is going on there!
> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb963902.aspx
> > 1b) with autoruns disable all non essential internet explorer add ons
> > t(oolbars etc)
> >
> > 2) disable all non essential services
> > Reference site: http://www.blackviper.com/WinVista/servicecfg.htm
> >
> > 3) Disable all non essential WINDOWS explorer add ons (shell extensions)
> > with Nirsoft shellexview (right click run as administrator to do this)
> > (see download on the bottom of page)
> > http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/shexview.html
> >
> > 4) download ccleaner from here:
> > http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/
> > and clean up the TRASH from your disk
> >
> > 5) Create a new restore point, and use the disk clean up utility to clean
> > up old restore points THEN AFTER DOING 4 and 5 go to step 6
> > To do this correctly see this page
> > http://www.emachines.com/faq/vista/ck2007032859.html
> > and SCROLL DOWN TO WHERE IT SAYS>>>>
> > Removing all but the most recent restore point
> >
> > 6) Defragment your drive using a better-than-the-crap vista defrag, get it
> > here (free)
> > http://www.auslogics.com/en/software/disk-defrag
> >
> >
> > WARNING>>>DO NOT turn off AERO GLASS as some might say, you will have LESS
> > performance since the in non aero
> > vista has absolutely NO acceleration in drawing the various windows
> > objects (unlike XP that DOES!!!!)
> >
> > But you can turn off some of the vista effects...
> >
> > 7) Disable Visual Effects: Right click on Computer, and choose Properties,
> > Click on Advanced System Settings, and then under Advanced, click
> > Settings, Select the "Visual Effects" tab then disable a few of those, DO
> > NOT set for best performance or your AERO GLASS theme will turn off.. and
> > as I said before that's WORSE!
> >
> > Tell me if this helps
> >
> >
> >
> > "RichTJ99" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I have Vista running in dual boot mode on a C2D 2.0ghz laptop (2 gigs
> >> ram). I usually run in XP as it seems to be much faster. Are there
> >> tweaks I can do to make Vista run with the same amount of get up & go?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Rich
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> RichTJ99
> >
> >
>
>
>

"RichTJ99" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hi,
>
> I have Vista running in dual boot mode on a C2D 2.0ghz laptop (2 gigs
> ram). I usually run in XP as it seems to be much faster. Are there
> tweaks I can do to make Vista run with the same amount of get up & go?
>
> Thanks,
> Rich

Simple answer, no - not on the same hardware.

"RichTJ99" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Hi,
>
> I have Vista running in dual boot mode on a C2D 2.0ghz laptop (2 gigs
> ram). I usually run in XP as it seems to be much faster. Are there
> tweaks I can do to make Vista run with the same amount of get up & go?
>
Near as i can tell rich they are about the same or Vista is slightly faster.
You have a POS computer?

"Slap" <> wrote in message
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>
>
> "RichTJ99" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have Vista running in dual boot mode on a C2D 2.0ghz laptop (2 gigs
>> ram). I usually run in XP as it seems to be much faster. Are there
>> tweaks I can do to make Vista run with the same amount of get up & go?
>>
> Near as i can tell rich they are about the same or Vista is slightly
> faster. You have a POS computer?

That's been my experience as well. Correctly installed with proper drivers
and no OEM crapware, Vista leaves XP in the dust. Mostly due to Vista's
superior memory management - Vista actually will USE all 4 gigs of RAM to
cache everything, instead of thrashing the disk to reload every time you
swap windows like in XP, due to XP's brain dead "use as little RAM as
possible - it's scarce and expensive!", 1990's style memory management.

Jesus...I just told it to delete all but the most recent restore poin
and it freed up 22 GBs of ****ing space on my main C drive. That's
lot of restore points

How often should you do this

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KingOfChaos

"Bob Campbell" <> wrote in message
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> "Slap" <> wrote in message
> news:0qgHj.132573$pM4.89486@pd7urf1no...
>>
>>
>> "RichTJ99" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have Vista running in dual boot mode on a C2D 2.0ghz laptop (2 gigs
>>> ram). I usually run in XP as it seems to be much faster. Are there
>>> tweaks I can do to make Vista run with the same amount of get up & go?
>>>
>> Near as i can tell rich they are about the same or Vista is slightly
>> faster. You have a POS computer?
>
> That's been my experience as well. Correctly installed with proper
> drivers and no OEM crapware, Vista leaves XP in the dust. Mostly due to
> Vista's superior memory management - Vista actually will USE all 4 gigs of
> RAM to cache everything, instead of thrashing the disk to reload every
> time you swap windows like in XP, due to XP's brain dead "use as little
> RAM as possible - it's scarce and expensive!", 1990's style memory
> management.

That has been my experience as well, I set up Vista 64 bit Ultimate, in a
dual boot with my XP Pro 32 bit install, mainly because I was curious and
wanted to play around with a 64 bit OS, and knew I now had available 64 bit
Vista drivers for all my peripherals. I find Vista to certainly be
snappier, and I have gotten to where I like it much better.

I still have XP, as I have some programs I have not migrated over yet, but
for the most part I find I rarely boot into XP any longer, preferring to run
my Vista 64 bit install, I have been pleasantly surprised. I also have 4gb
of ram.
Once I have all my essential programs I want to run, running to my
satisfaction in Vista 64 bit, I can see myself then totally wiping the XP
drive at that point.



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Don