Prediction: Microsoft will leapfrog Vista, release Windows 7 early, and change its OS business

http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=664

I guess either these guys come in the vista newsgroups and steal SOME of my
predictions.. or just have the common sense the vista fanboys lack!

Article: (its long so I include only a portion of it here, to read the rest
click on the above link)

Prediction: Microsoft will leapfrog Vista, release Windows 7 early, and
change its OS business

Microsoft is nothing if not responsive to its customers. In fact, it's
hyper-responsive. That's why we've ended up with feature-bloat in both
Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office as the company has tried to please
everyone by including everything-but-the-kitchen-sink in its software.
And that's why Microsoft will ultimately try to quell the embarrassing
Windows Vista debacle by making a bold move with Windows 7 to win back
customer loyalty and generate positive spin for its most important product.
What will happen next?
My prognosis is that Microsoft will use smoke and mirrors to conjure up an
early release of Windows 7, the next edition of the world's most widely-used
operating system. Then they will quietly and unofficially allow IT
departments to migrate straight from Windows XP to Windows 7.
Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates has already alluded to this and IT departments
have certainly welcomed that idea, since most of them have found very few
reasons to migrate to Vista - although my colleague John Sheesley recently
argued the devil's advocate position for IT departments to adopt Vista.
To be clear, I am not predicting that Microsoft will do a quick-and-massive
overhaul of Windows Vista in the next 12 months. Instead, I think we'll see
Microsoft do the following:

Strip out or minimize some of Windows Vista's clunkiest features -
especially User Account Control

Simplify the interface back to something closer to Windows XP

Reduce backward compatibility in order to streamline the code base

Work much harder with vendors to ensure driver and software compatibility
with new hardware and applications

Reduce the cost of Windows in retail boxes in order to generate goodwill and
undercut Mac OS X (meanwhile, this will have little effect on the price of
enterprise licensing, which is already much cheaper than retail)

Learn from the long delay of Windows Vista and move to an incremental
release model with a subscription and at least one major update per year.
Financially,
most IT departments are already on a subscription plan. Now look for
Microsoft to move consumers in this direction.

Release Windows 7 by the end of 2009 and market it as the simplest and
easiest Windows ever

Did Vista get this much Hype as Windows 7 now is getting so long before its
release date? I can't remember.

"vishhiita prime" <> wrote in message
news:480d9a12$...
> http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=664
>
> I guess either these guys come in the vista newsgroups and steal SOME of
> my
> predictions.. or just have the common sense the vista fanboys lack!
>
> Article: (its long so I include only a portion of it here, to read the
> rest
> click on the above link)
>
> Prediction: Microsoft will leapfrog Vista, release Windows 7 early, and
> change its OS business
>
> Microsoft is nothing if not responsive to its customers. In fact, it's
> hyper-responsive. That's why we've ended up with feature-bloat in both
> Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office as the company has tried to please
> everyone by including everything-but-the-kitchen-sink in its software.
> And that's why Microsoft will ultimately try to quell the embarrassing
> Windows Vista debacle by making a bold move with Windows 7 to win back
> customer loyalty and generate positive spin for its most important
> product.
> What will happen next?
> My prognosis is that Microsoft will use smoke and mirrors to conjure up an
> early release of Windows 7, the next edition of the world's most
> widely-used
> operating system. Then they will quietly and unofficially allow IT
> departments to migrate straight from Windows XP to Windows 7.
> Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates has already alluded to this and IT
> departments
> have certainly welcomed that idea, since most of them have found very few
> reasons to migrate to Vista - although my colleague John Sheesley recently
> argued the devil's advocate position for IT departments to adopt Vista.
> To be clear, I am not predicting that Microsoft will do a
> quick-and-massive
> overhaul of Windows Vista in the next 12 months. Instead, I think we'll
> see
> Microsoft do the following:
>
> Strip out or minimize some of Windows Vista's clunkiest features -
> especially User Account Control
>
> Simplify the interface back to something closer to Windows XP
>
> Reduce backward compatibility in order to streamline the code base
>
> Work much harder with vendors to ensure driver and software compatibility
> with new hardware and applications
>
> Reduce the cost of Windows in retail boxes in order to generate goodwill
> and
> undercut Mac OS X (meanwhile, this will have little effect on the price of
> enterprise licensing, which is already much cheaper than retail)
>
> Learn from the long delay of Windows Vista and move to an incremental
> release model with a subscription and at least one major update per year.
> Financially,
> most IT departments are already on a subscription plan. Now look for
> Microsoft to move consumers in this direction.
>
> Release Windows 7 by the end of 2009 and market it as the simplest and
> easiest Windows ever
>
>

vista has a history of hype and huge promises

I am glad to see this article saying the same things I have been saying for
years now...

I guess fanboys like frank will shrug it off, and call the article just
another e-rag, or actually start understanding
that I was right all along



"Gary Mount" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Did Vista get this much Hype as Windows 7 now is getting so long before
its
> release date? I can't remember.
>
> "vishhiita prime" <> wrote in message
> news:480d9a12$...
> > http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/hiner/?p=664
> >
> > I guess either these guys come in the vista newsgroups and steal SOME of
> > my
> > predictions.. or just have the common sense the vista fanboys lack!
> >
> > Article: (its long so I include only a portion of it here, to read the
> > rest
> > click on the above link)
> >
> > Prediction: Microsoft will leapfrog Vista, release Windows 7 early, and
> > change its OS business
> >
> > Microsoft is nothing if not responsive to its customers. In fact, it's
> > hyper-responsive. That's why we've ended up with feature-bloat in both
> > Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office as the company has tried to
please
> > everyone by including everything-but-the-kitchen-sink in its software.
> > And that's why Microsoft will ultimately try to quell the embarrassing
> > Windows Vista debacle by making a bold move with Windows 7 to win back
> > customer loyalty and generate positive spin for its most important
> > product.
> > What will happen next?
> > My prognosis is that Microsoft will use smoke and mirrors to conjure up
an
> > early release of Windows 7, the next edition of the world's most
> > widely-used
> > operating system. Then they will quietly and unofficially allow IT
> > departments to migrate straight from Windows XP to Windows 7.
> > Microsoft Chairman Bill Gates has already alluded to this and IT
> > departments
> > have certainly welcomed that idea, since most of them have found very
few
> > reasons to migrate to Vista - although my colleague John Sheesley
recently
> > argued the devil's advocate position for IT departments to adopt Vista.
> > To be clear, I am not predicting that Microsoft will do a
> > quick-and-massive
> > overhaul of Windows Vista in the next 12 months. Instead, I think we'll
> > see
> > Microsoft do the following:
> >
> > Strip out or minimize some of Windows Vista's clunkiest features -
> > especially User Account Control
> >
> > Simplify the interface back to something closer to Windows XP
> >
> > Reduce backward compatibility in order to streamline the code base
> >
> > Work much harder with vendors to ensure driver and software
compatibility
> > with new hardware and applications
> >
> > Reduce the cost of Windows in retail boxes in order to generate goodwill
> > and
> > undercut Mac OS X (meanwhile, this will have little effect on the price
of
> > enterprise licensing, which is already much cheaper than retail)
> >
> > Learn from the long delay of Windows Vista and move to an incremental
> > release model with a subscription and at least one major update per
year.
> > Financially,
> > most IT departments are already on a subscription plan. Now look for
> > Microsoft to move consumers in this direction.
> >
> > Release Windows 7 by the end of 2009 and market it as the simplest and
> > easiest Windows ever
> >
> >

"Gary Mount" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Did Vista get this much Hype as Windows 7 now is getting so long before
> its release date? I can't remember.

It got more. That's part of the problem to be honest. They promised the
world, stripped it back and cut features, then realised they had a mess and
hit the reset button before rushing an incomplete system out the door which
failed to live up to the hype.

Ever go see a film that you heard so much about, and actually think it was a
good film but come away disappointed because it wasn't as good as the
critics painted it? That's a big part of the vista experience right there.

"Ever go see a film that you heard so much about..."

I have quite often seen the opposite happen, critics dislike the movie but
movie goers like it.



"Robert Moir" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Gary Mount" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Did Vista get this much Hype as Windows 7 now is getting so long before
>> its release date? I can't remember.
>
> It got more. That's part of the problem to be honest. They promised the
> world, stripped it back and cut features, then realised they had a mess
> and hit the reset button before rushing an incomplete system out the door
> which failed to live up to the hype.
>
> Ever go see a film that you heard so much about, and actually think it was
> a good film but come away disappointed because it wasn't as good as the
> critics painted it? That's a big part of the vista experience right there.
>

vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> Strip out or minimize some of Windows Vista's clunkiest features
> especially User Account Contro

To what end? So the bashers can start complaining about how much mor
secure Vista is over Windows 7

vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> Simplify the interface back to something closer to Windows X

This falls in line with the first quote. By rolling the UI back t
something closer to XP, all that will happen is that people wil
complain too much about how dumb it is and how much better the Vista U
is

vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> Reduce backward compatibility in order to streamline the code bas

So people can complain even more about how nothing works? If anything
backward compatibility will be improved, not reduced

vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> Work much harder with vendors to ensure driver and softwar
> compatibility with new hardware and application

The only reason why Vista initially had driver related problems i
because Microsoft moved to a new user-mode model for drivers to make th
system more secure, and many hardware manufacturers had issues with th
resulting learning curve. Windows 7 will use the same user-mode drive
model as Vista, so manufacturers will not have as hard a tim
transitioning from Vista to Windows 7 as they did from XP to Vista

vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> Reduce the cost of Windows in retail boxes in order to generate goodwil
> and undercut Mac OS X (meanwhile, this will have little effect on th
> price of enterprise licensing, which is already much cheaper tha
> retail

A cost reduction will always be welcome. But remember the larges
factor here - the easier it is to crack/patch/pirate Windows, the mor
expensive it will be for end users who ultimately end up paying

vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> Learn from the long delay of Windows Vista and move to an incrementa
> release model with a subscription and at least one major update pe
> year.

There is nothing to learn from the long delay of Vista, except that th
additional time spent can be seen in the stability, reliability an
performance of the final release. Personally, I'd prefer to see anothe
4-5 year relase time-frame for Windows 7, which will give the coders a
Microsoft more time to streamline the product as well as Vista was

vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> Financially, most IT departments are already on a subscription plan. No
> look for Microsoft to move consumers in this direction

Microsoft will maintain the status quo here, as the largest part of th
market is not yet ready to adopt a subscription based model. Thi
particular trend is still open for debate, though..

vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> Release Windows 7 by the end of 2009 and market it as the simplest an
> easiest Windows eve

Isn't that what was said about XP? And about Windows 2000 before it? a
about Windows ME/98/95 before that

Each successive release of Windows (or any other OS) is always "th
simplest and easiest ever"

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"vishhiita prime" <> wrote in message
news:480d9a12$...
> Prediction: Microsoft will leapfrog Vista, release Windows 7 early, and
> change its OS business

Prediction: clueless people will continue to make clueless predictions.

"Gary Mount" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "Ever go see a film that you heard so much about..."
>
> I have quite often seen the opposite happen, critics dislike the movie but
> movie goers like it.

Well yes that too. Either way, it's an interesting point around expectations
vs. delivery, isn't it?

Good post Darth, Why people like that frequent dedicated sites, just to
be negative, beats me.


--
silver

hello my stupid vista fanboy friend.
See in what a corner MS has put itself in?
First they design a crappy UI for vista, and some are stupid enough to
actually like it.
Then when they will fix it, people will complain.

TOUGH! They should fix it to be usable, and let you whiners complain all you
want!!!


"Dzomlija" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> > Strip out or minimize some of Windows Vista's clunkiest features -
> > especially User Account Control
>
> To what end? So the bashers can start complaining about how much more
> secure Vista is over Windows 7?
>
> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> > Simplify the interface back to something closer to Windows XP
>
> This falls in line with the first quote. By rolling the UI back to
> something closer to XP, all that will happen is that people will
> complain too much about how dumb it is and how much better the Vista UI
> is.
>
> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> > Reduce backward compatibility in order to streamline the code base
>
> So people can complain even more about how nothing works? If anything,
> backward compatibility will be improved, not reduced.
>
> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> > Work much harder with vendors to ensure driver and software
> > compatibility with new hardware and applications
>
> The only reason why Vista initially had driver related problems is
> because Microsoft moved to a new user-mode model for drivers to make the
> system more secure, and many hardware manufacturers had issues with the
> resulting learning curve. Windows 7 will use the same user-mode driver
> model as Vista, so manufacturers will not have as hard a time
> transitioning from Vista to Windows 7 as they did from XP to Vista.
>
> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> > Reduce the cost of Windows in retail boxes in order to generate goodwill
> > and undercut Mac OS X (meanwhile, this will have little effect on the
> > price of enterprise licensing, which is already much cheaper than
> > retail)
>
> A cost reduction will always be welcome. But remember the largest
> factor here - the easier it is to crack/patch/pirate Windows, the more
> expensive it will be for end users who ultimately end up paying.
>
> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> > Learn from the long delay of Windows Vista and move to an incremental
> > release model with a subscription and at least one major update per
> > year.
>
> There is nothing to learn from the long delay of Vista, except that the
> additional time spent can be seen in the stability, reliability and
> performance of the final release. Personally, I'd prefer to see another
> 4-5 year relase time-frame for Windows 7, which will give the coders at
> Microsoft more time to streamline the product as well as Vista was.
>
> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> > Financially, most IT departments are already on a subscription plan. Now
> > look for Microsoft to move consumers in this direction.
>
> Microsoft will maintain the status quo here, as the largest part of the
> market is not yet ready to adopt a subscription based model. This
> particular trend is still open for debate, though...
>
> vishhiita prime;690615 Wrote:
> > Release Windows 7 by the end of 2009 and market it as the simplest and
> > easiest Windows ever
>
> Isn't that what was said about XP? And about Windows 2000 before it? an
> about Windows ME/98/95 before that?
>
> Each successive release of Windows (or any other OS) is always "the
> simplest and easiest ever"!
>
>
> --
> Dzomlija
>
> Peter Alexander Dzomlija
> -Do you hear, huh? The Alpha and The Omega? Death and Rebirth? And as
> you die, so shall I be Reborn...-
>
> _*Prometheus*_
> MOBO: ASUS MB-M3A32-MVP Deluxe/WiFi-AP
> CPU: AMD Phenom 9600 Quad
> RAM: 2 x A-Data 2GB DDR2-800
> GPU: ASUS ATI Radeon HD 2400PRO, 256MB
> BOX: Thermaltake Tai-Chi Water Cooled
> OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64
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