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>Lori cannot access Michael and John's folders- comes up Permisson denied
>Lori can access two folders on the c drive that are also shared on the 2 xp >computers- one called Goodstuff- one called Downloads. >Now- I make another Administrator user on Vista and call that Robin (both >are password protected) >Logg off from Lori and go into Robin >Robin can see and use Michael and John's Administrative Folder with no >problems. >So my question is why can't Lori? same adminstrative access as Robin >is this better? Definitely, much, much better. It looks like you have TWO admin accounts on Vista with the SAME level of privilege and the first one cannot use some of the XP folders but the second one can. Right? If this is true, then why don't you do the following: (disclaimer: I am not sure you will be able to understand why this is happening but perhaps you will solve the problem "mindlessly" and forget about it). Go to Robin in Vista, click on the problematic folders in XP, Properties>>Security Tab>> Edit>> Add>> add Lori to the list of users/groups. Give Lori permissions you want (full rights or whatnot on the way back>> Click Apply and forget about the problem  Now the happy ending may not be in the offing, actually. We do not have a clear understanding why it is happening but this may as well work. It is what I would call "workaround."Would you try it? If I still do not understand you situation correctly, take another stab. Come back and report, especially if the problem is still there. "Robinb" <> wrote in message news:%... > >> >> You are saying that XP users are fine as far as getting into Vista. It >> means that they can access any Vista Folder, right? You are not saying >> that they can actually control the Vista accounts, even admin accounts. >> You are not saying it, I presume. If you really want an XP user (and >> administrator on XP machine) to make changes in Vista as a Vista >> administrator, it is a different aspect. > > correct > > >> From what you seem to be saying in the quoted statement above I deduce >> that you want a Vista user with limited admin account to control another >> Vista user's full admin account in such a way as to make changes in the >> account set up, etc. >> > > no, I actually do not want the lmited account user to network into the xp > pro machines, I was using that only as a test to try to figure out why > the Administrative user cannot get into the Administrative User on the xp > pro machine filders. > >> Does it sound right? This may not be possible. > > >> >> FYI, this forum is full of know-it-all trolls who badmouth people trying >> to solve other people's problems in good faith. They are near criminal >> characters and I was waiting for them to jump in and say: "I do know what >> you problem is, Robin!" So far we haven't heard that. > > I understand, I give help on the microsoft security and Windows defender > ng and I know what know it all trolls are all about. I know a lot about > computers, I teach Windows Vista and XP, I fix them, I build them and I > sell them. but for the life of me I am stumped on this one and was > looking to see if anyone had an idea why this is happening >> >> Anyhow, I will keep trying to help you but keep it in mind that my >> network experience is limited and I need a much better description as to >> what your > > Maybe this will make it easier to understand: > > 1. 1- computer- running Vista Home Premium- workgroup name "dogs" (dogs > is only an example- not the real name) > "Lori" (just using that name as an example) is on as Adminstrator- > password protected > > 2. 2 XP Pro computers networked together using the workgroup "dogs" > (again dogs is only an example) > 1- Michael is the Administrator User on xp pro machine. 1- John is the > Administratior user on the other xp pro > > Michael and John can "see" each other and can access all files that are > shared- On both their Administrative My document folder, etc. > > Michael and John can access all of Lori's files on the Vista Machine > > Lori cannot access Michael and John's folders- comes up Permisson denied > Lori can access two folders on the c drive that are also shared on the 2 > xp computers- one called Goodstuff- one called Downloads. > > Now- I make another Administrator user on Vista and call that Robin (both > are password protected) > Logg off from Lori and go into Robin > > Robin can see and use Michael and John's Administrative Folder with no > problems. > > So my question is why can't Lori? same adminstrative access as Robin > > is this better? > > robin > >> >> "robin" <> wrote in message >> news:%... >>>I do not think so because there are 3 administrative users on the 3 xp >>>pros that are networked. and each computer can get to the one designated >>>Administrative User that is being shared. >>> In Vista the 2nd user account that i set up with administrative >>> authority "sees" and can get into that particular user. >>> The limited account with putting in a username and password (the one on >>> each xp computer) sees it too. >>> >>> The 1st user account that has administrative authority gets into the xp >>> pro machines but cannot get into the designated Administrative User >>> account. If it was on the xp side it would not let any of the Vista >>> user accounts in but it is letting all of them in, just not the main >>> user account which makes no sense because the names are not even close >>> to each other and it is letting it into the two folders that are on the >>> c drive. >>> >>> This is what is so frustating and I cannot figure out what is wrong. >>> >>> robin >>> >>> robin >>> >>> "alexB" <> wrote in message >>> news:%... >>>> Sorry Robin, it may be blabbering but perhaps every bit helps. >>>> >>>> I think the problem may be that the XP is not Vista. Could it be >>>> possible that XP is used to the fact that there might be only ONE >>>> administrator across the network? Actually I have no idea since XP is >>>> out of my mind already but it would be interesting to know if this is >>>> the case. >>>> >>>> >>>> Robin, this I just cannot understand: >>>>> On the User account that has administrator privileges- she cannot get >>>>> in. She can get into the two files that are on the c drive that are >>>>> being shared but not the Administrator User Account that is set to >>>>> share on the xp pro computers. >>>> I think there are two mutually exclusive statements up there. You are >>>> saying that "she cannot get in." (the first line) and then: "She can >>>> get into the two files that are on the c drive that are being shared" >>>> but .. "but not the Administrator User Account ?" what does that mean? >>>> >>>> You should draw a clear diagram. >>>> >>>> (1) Account A - administrator privileges in Vista (full rights). Has >>>> been defined also in XP under the same name, etc. etc. etc. >>>> (2) Account B - adm, limited. In what sense limited, etc, etc, etc. >>>> >>>> >>>> "robinb" <> wrote in message >>>> news:%... >>>>> no, you do not understand the question. >>>>> I only have two user accounts- >>>>> one has administrator privliges one has limited >>>>> the one on adminstrator privliges cannot get into the User folder on >>>>> the xp pro networked computer >>>>> If I make another User account with Administrative Privliges that User >>>>> can get in. >>>>> Why can't the first User account that has Adminstrative Privliges get >>>>> in? >>>>> >>>>> the limited account was tested and the only way they can get in is by >>>>> putting in the username and password to the other xp computer. But he >>>>> gets in,,, that is my point. >>>>> >>>>> On the User account that has administrator privileges- she cannot get >>>>> in. She can get into the two files that are on the c drive that are >>>>> being shared but not the Administrator User Account that is set to >>>>> share on the xp pro computers. >>>>> >>>>> robin >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > |
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> > It looks like you have TWO admin accounts on Vista with the SAME level of > privilege and the first one cannot use some of the XP folders but the > second one can. Right? Right > > If this is true, then why don't you do the following: (disclaimer: I am > not sure you will be able to understand why this is happening but perhaps > you will solve the problem "mindlessly" and forget about it). > > Go to Robin in Vista, click on the problematic folders in XP, > Properties>>Security Tab>> Edit>> Add>> add Lori to the list of > users/groups. Give Lori permissions you want (full rights or whatnot on > the way back>> Click Apply and forget about the problem This way i would have to add Robin as a Admin user on XP- I know that is the work around but I want more to figure out why on the vista why one User that can get onto the XP Admin user accounts and why one cannot. I tried going through your way and it will not work. It is very strange that one can and one cannot. Neither one of them have permisson now in xp- that folder is shared across the network for administrator use only robin > > Now the happy ending may not be in the offing, actually. We do not have a > clear understanding why it is happening but this may as well work. It is > what I would call "workaround."Would you try it? > > If I still do not understand you situation correctly, take another stab. > > Come back and report, especially if the problem is still there. > > "Robinb" <> wrote in message > news:%... >> >>> >>> You are saying that XP users are fine as far as getting into Vista. It >>> means that they can access any Vista Folder, right? You are not saying >>> that they can actually control the Vista accounts, even admin accounts. >>> You are not saying it, I presume. If you really want an XP user (and >>> administrator on XP machine) to make changes in Vista as a Vista >>> administrator, it is a different aspect. >> >> correct >> >> >>> From what you seem to be saying in the quoted statement above I deduce >>> that you want a Vista user with limited admin account to control another >>> Vista user's full admin account in such a way as to make changes in the >>> account set up, etc. >>> >> >> no, I actually do not want the lmited account user to network into the xp >> pro machines, I was using that only as a test to try to figure out why >> the Administrative user cannot get into the Administrative User on the xp >> pro machine filders. >> >>> Does it sound right? This may not be possible. >> >> >>> >>> FYI, this forum is full of know-it-all trolls who badmouth people trying >>> to solve other people's problems in good faith. They are near criminal >>> characters and I was waiting for them to jump in and say: "I do know >>> what you problem is, Robin!" So far we haven't heard that. >> >> I understand, I give help on the microsoft security and Windows defender >> ng and I know what know it all trolls are all about. I know a lot about >> computers, I teach Windows Vista and XP, I fix them, I build them and I >> sell them. but for the life of me I am stumped on this one and was >> looking to see if anyone had an idea why this is happening >>> >>> Anyhow, I will keep trying to help you but keep it in mind that my >>> network experience is limited and I need a much better description as to >>> what your >> >> Maybe this will make it easier to understand: >> >> 1. 1- computer- running Vista Home Premium- workgroup name "dogs" (dogs >> is only an example- not the real name) >> "Lori" (just using that name as an example) is on as Adminstrator- >> password protected >> >> 2. 2 XP Pro computers networked together using the workgroup "dogs" >> (again dogs is only an example) >> 1- Michael is the Administrator User on xp pro machine. 1- John is the >> Administratior user on the other xp pro >> >> Michael and John can "see" each other and can access all files that are >> shared- On both their Administrative My document folder, etc. >> >> Michael and John can access all of Lori's files on the Vista Machine >> >> Lori cannot access Michael and John's folders- comes up Permisson denied >> Lori can access two folders on the c drive that are also shared on the 2 >> xp computers- one called Goodstuff- one called Downloads. >> >> Now- I make another Administrator user on Vista and call that Robin (both >> are password protected) >> Logg off from Lori and go into Robin >> >> Robin can see and use Michael and John's Administrative Folder with no >> problems. >> >> So my question is why can't Lori? same adminstrative access as Robin >> >> is this better? >> >> robin >> >>> >>> "robin" <> wrote in message >>> news:%... >>>>I do not think so because there are 3 administrative users on the 3 xp >>>>pros that are networked. and each computer can get to the one designated >>>>Administrative User that is being shared. >>>> In Vista the 2nd user account that i set up with administrative >>>> authority "sees" and can get into that particular user. >>>> The limited account with putting in a username and password (the one on >>>> each xp computer) sees it too. >>>> >>>> The 1st user account that has administrative authority gets into the xp >>>> pro machines but cannot get into the designated Administrative User >>>> account. If it was on the xp side it would not let any of the Vista >>>> user accounts in but it is letting all of them in, just not the main >>>> user account which makes no sense because the names are not even close >>>> to each other and it is letting it into the two folders that are on the >>>> c drive. >>>> >>>> This is what is so frustating and I cannot figure out what is wrong. >>>> >>>> robin >>>> >>>> robin >>>> >>>> "alexB" <> wrote in message >>>> news:%... >>>>> Sorry Robin, it may be blabbering but perhaps every bit helps. >>>>> >>>>> I think the problem may be that the XP is not Vista. Could it be >>>>> possible that XP is used to the fact that there might be only ONE >>>>> administrator across the network? Actually I have no idea since XP is >>>>> out of my mind already but it would be interesting to know if this is >>>>> the case. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Robin, this I just cannot understand: >>>>>> On the User account that has administrator privileges- she cannot get >>>>>> in. She can get into the two files that are on the c drive that are >>>>>> being shared but not the Administrator User Account that is set to >>>>>> share on the xp pro computers. >>>>> I think there are two mutually exclusive statements up there. You are >>>>> saying that "she cannot get in." (the first line) and then: "She can >>>>> get into the two files that are on the c drive that are being shared" >>>>> but .. "but not the Administrator User Account ?" what does that mean? >>>>> >>>>> You should draw a clear diagram. >>>>> >>>>> (1) Account A - administrator privileges in Vista (full rights). Has >>>>> been defined also in XP under the same name, etc. etc. etc. >>>>> (2) Account B - adm, limited. In what sense limited, etc, etc, etc. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "robinb" <> wrote in message >>>>> news:%... >>>>>> no, you do not understand the question. >>>>>> I only have two user accounts- >>>>>> one has administrator privliges one has limited >>>>>> the one on adminstrator privliges cannot get into the User folder on >>>>>> the xp pro networked computer >>>>>> If I make another User account with Administrative Privliges that >>>>>> User can get in. >>>>>> Why can't the first User account that has Adminstrative Privliges get >>>>>> in? >>>>>> >>>>>> the limited account was tested and the only way they can get in is by >>>>>> putting in the username and password to the other xp computer. But >>>>>> he gets in,,, that is my point. >>>>>> >>>>>> On the User account that has administrator privileges- she cannot get >>>>>> in. She can get into the two files that are on the c drive that are >>>>>> being shared but not the Administrator User Account that is set to >>>>>> share on the xp pro computers. >>>>>> >>>>>> robin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > |
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