Problem with setting up Dual boot with 2 XP Pro patitions

Alright I'm trying to set-up a dual boot system with both partitions being XP
Pro and they will be on a domain.

* I have set up two partitions of equal size
* I have installed xp on one partition
* Installed necessary drivers, software, etc
* cloned partition to partition with ghost
* changed SID and Computer name with NewSID



After I did the Ghost partition to partition I had to go into recovery
console and do a bootcfg /rebuild and edit the boot.ini file.
Do I need the boot.ini file on both partitions or just one?

I can get the system booting , and on the domain until I start putting them
on the domain and updating through Microsoft update..then this is where it
goes wrong, but I can't figure it out.

When I boot into one of the partitions (not always the first or second one,
but I think it is the first partition updated) I get service errors and all
kinds of crap wrong i.e. Themes is screwed up and I see Windows classic
instead of Windows XP.

Also, I would like to mention that ... YES, the partitions are visible to
each other...Is this a factor?

Let me know if I need to clarify anything I know there are a couple of
questions in there and some are vague.

1. boot.ini locations (1st partition, 1st & @nd ??)
2. Why are services crapping out after updating?


I kinda feel it has something to do with Windows extracting 'update files'
in the wrong place, but I do not know.

boot.ini always goes on the system partition. (first primary active
partition) It's more than likely a drive letter thing. It would be much
simpler to install from the XP installation media for both partitions.



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"Jace5869" wrote:
> Alright I'm trying to set-up a dual boot system with both partitions being
> XP
> Pro and they will be on a domain.
>
> * I have set up two partitions of equal size
> * I have installed xp on one partition
> * Installed necessary drivers, software, etc
> * cloned partition to partition with ghost
> * changed SID and Computer name with NewSID
>
>
>
> After I did the Ghost partition to partition I had to go into recovery
> console and do a bootcfg /rebuild and edit the boot.ini file.
> Do I need the boot.ini file on both partitions or just one?
>
> I can get the system booting , and on the domain until I start putting
> them
> on the domain and updating through Microsoft update..then this is where it
> goes wrong, but I can't figure it out.
>
> When I boot into one of the partitions (not always the first or second
> one,
> but I think it is the first partition updated) I get service errors and
> all
> kinds of crap wrong i.e. Themes is screwed up and I see Windows classic
> instead of Windows XP.
>
> Also, I would like to mention that ... YES, the partitions are visible to
> each other...Is this a factor?
>
> Let me know if I need to clarify anything I know there are a couple of
> questions in there and some are vague.
>
> 1. boot.ini locations (1st partition, 1st & @nd ??)
> 2. Why are services crapping out after updating?
>
>
> I kinda feel it has something to do with Windows extracting 'update files'
> in the wrong place, but I do not know.

So are you suggesting that I need to hide one partition while installing one
XP, and then hide the other partition while I install the final XP?

I see what you're saying about not using ghost for partition restores. So,
just one boot.ini file and on the sys/pimary drive?

I will use two Primary drives instead of primary + logical, correct?

And he end result will be two separate XP installs that use 'C:' as it's
drive letter?

"Dave Patrick" wrote:

> boot.ini always goes on the system partition. (first primary active
> partition) It's more than likely a drive letter thing. It would be much
> simpler to install from the XP installation media for both partitions.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "Jace5869" wrote:
> > Alright I'm trying to set-up a dual boot system with both partitions being
> > XP
> > Pro and they will be on a domain.
> >
> > * I have set up two partitions of equal size
> > * I have installed xp on one partition
> > * Installed necessary drivers, software, etc
> > * cloned partition to partition with ghost
> > * changed SID and Computer name with NewSID
> >
> >
> >
> > After I did the Ghost partition to partition I had to go into recovery
> > console and do a bootcfg /rebuild and edit the boot.ini file.
> > Do I need the boot.ini file on both partitions or just one?
> >
> > I can get the system booting , and on the domain until I start putting
> > them
> > on the domain and updating through Microsoft update..then this is where it
> > goes wrong, but I can't figure it out.
> >
> > When I boot into one of the partitions (not always the first or second
> > one,
> > but I think it is the first partition updated) I get service errors and
> > all
> > kinds of crap wrong i.e. Themes is screwed up and I see Windows classic
> > instead of Windows XP.
> >
> > Also, I would like to mention that ... YES, the partitions are visible to
> > each other...Is this a factor?
> >
> > Let me know if I need to clarify anything I know there are a couple of
> > questions in there and some are vague.
> >
> > 1. boot.ini locations (1st partition, 1st & @nd ??)
> > 2. Why are services crapping out after updating?
> >
> >
> > I kinda feel it has something to do with Windows extracting 'update files'
> > in the wrong place, but I do not know.
>

Maybe you should use two separate disks and swap them out as needed. Not
sure what you're trying to accomplish here.


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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


"Jace5869" wrote:
> So are you suggesting that I need to hide one partition while installing
> one
> XP, and then hide the other partition while I install the final XP?
>
> I see what you're saying about not using ghost for partition restores. So,
> just one boot.ini file and on the sys/pimary drive?
>
> I will use two Primary drives instead of primary + logical, correct?
>
> And he end result will be two separate XP installs that use 'C:' as it's
> drive letter?

I will try hiding partitions and see ow that works. I will explain toyou my
situation and why I am needing to do this.

I am setting up a laptop - Dell Precision M4400 with a 320GB 7200rpm drive
partition equally so that we can dual boot XP/XP.

The reason we need it to dual boot is so the user (developer) can choose
between booting up into a Visual Studio .NET environment or a Visual Basic 6
environment.

I personally do not see why there can not just be one partition, but the Sr.
in the dept. requests this.

Now, it all seems like it works okay, untill I add the partitions to the
domai (different names) and then (this is where I think things go wrong) run
Windows Updates.

Now, the partitions are set up like C: and D:. The laptop is not capable of
having two drives at once.

Now, it is very odd how the machine starts to malfunction. The system that
starts malfunction I believe is the first updated partition (not the last
one), and it boots up and all of a sudden services act like they cannot be
started automatically and some even will no start at all. One common
occurrence is that the themes service quits working and gets stuck in
classic/modified xp theme.

I'm not at work, so I can not try anything until tomorrow, but would like to
have a list of idea's to try and document. I thank you for your suggestions
and I have been researching all over about this with little information
pertaining enough to my situation. Most involve multiple disks (desktop) or
dual booting with different Os's.

"Dave Patrick" wrote:

> Maybe you should use two separate disks and swap them out as needed. Not
> sure what you're trying to accomplish here.
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "Jace5869" wrote:
> > So are you suggesting that I need to hide one partition while installing
> > one
> > XP, and then hide the other partition while I install the final XP?
> >
> > I see what you're saying about not using ghost for partition restores. So,
> > just one boot.ini file and on the sys/pimary drive?
> >
> > I will use two Primary drives instead of primary + logical, correct?
> >
> > And he end result will be two separate XP installs that use 'C:' as it's
> > drive letter?
>

I wasn't suggesting the disks would be installed both at the same time. A
laptop would even be easier for the user to swap. There shouldn't be any
reason for this. I run both dev environments on my XP workstation at work
without issue.



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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


"Jace5869" wrote:
>I will try hiding partitions and see ow that works. I will explain toyou my
> situation and why I am needing to do this.
>
> I am setting up a laptop - Dell Precision M4400 with a 320GB 7200rpm drive
> partition equally so that we can dual boot XP/XP.
>
> The reason we need it to dual boot is so the user (developer) can choose
> between booting up into a Visual Studio .NET environment or a Visual Basic
> 6
> environment.
>
> I personally do not see why there can not just be one partition, but the
> Sr.
> in the dept. requests this.
>
> Now, it all seems like it works okay, untill I add the partitions to the
> domai (different names) and then (this is where I think things go wrong)
> run
> Windows Updates.
>
> Now, the partitions are set up like C: and D:. The laptop is not capable
> of
> having two drives at once.
>
> Now, it is very odd how the machine starts to malfunction. The system that
> starts malfunction I believe is the first updated partition (not the last
> one), and it boots up and all of a sudden services act like they cannot be
> started automatically and some even will no start at all. One common
> occurrence is that the themes service quits working and gets stuck in
> classic/modified xp theme.
>
> I'm not at work, so I can not try anything until tomorrow, but would like
> to
> have a list of idea's to try and document. I thank you for your
> suggestions
> and I have been researching all over about this with little information
> pertaining enough to my situation. Most involve multiple disks (desktop)
> or
> dual booting with different Os's.

I know..

I do not make the decision to dual-boot or not unless it realistically can
not be done.

"Dave Patrick" wrote:

> I wasn't suggesting the disks would be installed both at the same time. A
> laptop would even be easier for the user to swap. There shouldn't be any
> reason for this. I run both dev environments on my XP workstation at work
> without issue.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
> Microsoft Certified Professional
> Microsoft MVP [Windows]
> http://www.microsoft.com/protect
>
>
> "Jace5869" wrote:
> >I will try hiding partitions and see ow that works. I will explain toyou my
> > situation and why I am needing to do this.
> >
> > I am setting up a laptop - Dell Precision M4400 with a 320GB 7200rpm drive
> > partition equally so that we can dual boot XP/XP.
> >
> > The reason we need it to dual boot is so the user (developer) can choose
> > between booting up into a Visual Studio .NET environment or a Visual Basic
> > 6
> > environment.
> >
> > I personally do not see why there can not just be one partition, but the
> > Sr.
> > in the dept. requests this.
> >
> > Now, it all seems like it works okay, untill I add the partitions to the
> > domai (different names) and then (this is where I think things go wrong)
> > run
> > Windows Updates.
> >
> > Now, the partitions are set up like C: and D:. The laptop is not capable
> > of
> > having two drives at once.
> >
> > Now, it is very odd how the machine starts to malfunction. The system that
> > starts malfunction I believe is the first updated partition (not the last
> > one), and it boots up and all of a sudden services act like they cannot be
> > started automatically and some even will no start at all. One common
> > occurrence is that the themes service quits working and gets stuck in
> > classic/modified xp theme.
> >
> > I'm not at work, so I can not try anything until tomorrow, but would like
> > to
> > have a list of idea's to try and document. I thank you for your
> > suggestions
> > and I have been researching all over about this with little information
> > pertaining enough to my situation. Most involve multiple disks (desktop)
> > or
> > dual booting with different Os's.
>

Realistically swapping disks would be the simplest solution. My two cents.



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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect


"Jace5869" wrote:
>I know..
>
> I do not make the decision to dual-boot or not unless it realistically can
> not be done.

Also ask them here.

http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&lang=en&cr=US

http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&lang=en&cr=US



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Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
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You can't clone it like that.

You have to individually install XP to each partition.


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"Jace5869" <> wrote in message
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> Alright I'm trying to set-up a dual boot system with both partitions being
> XP
> Pro and they will be on a domain.
>
> * I have set up two partitions of equal size
> * I have installed xp on one partition
> * Installed necessary drivers, software, etc
> * cloned partition to partition with ghost
> * changed SID and Computer name with NewSID
>
>
>
> After I did the Ghost partition to partition I had to go into recovery
> console and do a bootcfg /rebuild and edit the boot.ini file.
> Do I need the boot.ini file on both partitions or just one?
>
> I can get the system booting , and on the domain until I start putting
> them
> on the domain and updating through Microsoft update..then this is where it
> goes wrong, but I can't figure it out.
>
> When I boot into one of the partitions (not always the first or second
> one,
> but I think it is the first partition updated) I get service errors and
> all
> kinds of crap wrong i.e. Themes is screwed up and I see Windows classic
> instead of Windows XP.
>
> Also, I would like to mention that ... YES, the partitions are visible to
> each other...Is this a factor?
>
> Let me know if I need to clarify anything I know there are a couple of
> questions in there and some are vague.
>
> 1. boot.ini locations (1st partition, 1st & @nd ??)
> 2. Why are services crapping out after updating?
>
>
> I kinda feel it has something to do with Windows extracting 'update files'
> in the wrong place, but I do not know.