Problem with Vista's "sleep" function or me?

Mark Conrad's post asking how to hack Vista to hibernate reminded me of
a situation I encountered several months ago.

Here's the gist of it: I put my laptop to sleep, packed it up into my
backpack within a booq sleeve, and approximately 30 minutes later took
it out of the backpack to use again. The problem was that my laptop had
overheated during this relatively short period of time, and became so
hot that I could smell burning plastic. Fortunately, I restarted the
computer in time to get the fan going and there wasn't any permanent
damage done.

Question: what did I do wrong? Should I have NOT left my laptop in this
state, enclosed, for this period of time? I assumed that Vista's "sleep"
was the new "hibernate" and that it was safe to keep it in this state,
certainly for 30 minutes or longer. I've subsequently avoided using
sleep since, but I would really like to start using this feature again.


--
koch

"koch" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Mark Conrad's post asking how to hack Vista to hibernate reminded me of
> a situation I encountered several months ago.
>
> Here's the gist of it: I put my laptop to sleep, packed it up into my
> backpack within a booq sleeve, and approximately 30 minutes later took
> it out of the backpack to use again. The problem was that my laptop had
> overheated during this relatively short period of time, and became so
> hot that I could smell burning plastic. Fortunately, I restarted the
> computer in time to get the fan going and there wasn't any permanent
> damage done.
>
> Question: what did I do wrong? Should I have NOT left my laptop in this
> state, enclosed, for this period of time? I assumed that Vista's "sleep"
> was the new "hibernate" and that it was safe to keep it in this state,
> certainly for 30 minutes or longer. I've subsequently avoided using
> sleep since, but I would really like to start using this feature again.


Sleep is some bull that MS came up with to help destroy the environment. It
saves the RAM contents to disk, like Hibernate, but it still keeps the RAM
powered, like Standby, to save you that fifteen seconds or so when you want
to resume using the computer. The reason for the saving to disk is pretty
mysterious. Maybe it is in case the computer crashes while its asleep or
something.

Enable Hibernation at the command prompt (run as admin) with "powercfg -h
on"

ss.

I have the same issues.
I have S3 enabled in my BIOS, did so when installing a clean copy of
Ultimate.
The system goes to sleep for any period of time, 5 seconds to an hour.
Then with the mouse turned off it starts back up without any interaction.
The same with the Wake from LAN.

This has to be a failure point in the system and hardware communication.
What can be done? I haven't a clue at this point.
This is an Intel 3 series board.

"koch" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Mark Conrad's post asking how to hack Vista to hibernate reminded me of
> a situation I encountered several months ago.
>
> Here's the gist of it: I put my laptop to sleep, packed it up into my
> backpack within a booq sleeve, and approximately 30 minutes later took
> it out of the backpack to use again. The problem was that my laptop had
> overheated during this relatively short period of time, and became so
> hot that I could smell burning plastic. Fortunately, I restarted the
> computer in time to get the fan going and there wasn't any permanent
> damage done.
>
> Question: what did I do wrong? Should I have NOT left my laptop in this
> state, enclosed, for this period of time? I assumed that Vista's "sleep"
> was the new "hibernate" and that it was safe to keep it in this state,
> certainly for 30 minutes or longer. I've subsequently avoided using
> sleep since, but I would really like to start using this feature again.
>
>
> --
> koch

It worked well with my ASUS board but not my Intel board.
Everything else is the polar opposite, I have had nothing else good to say
about ASUS.
3 RMA's on the same board type, their 680i series is nothing but a bunch of
hype and garbage.
RMA service is laughable with ASUS as well.
The boards die with no post constantly, irregular failures with Vista and
constantly forcing me to re-register for no reason at all until they blue
screen to death.
Intel on the other hand has been solid other than the Sleep Feature.
I hope this gets resolved soon.
The only item I can say was different with the systems was that S3+S4 were
enabled on the ASUS board.
Intel only has S1 & S3 available.


"Synapse Syndrome" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "koch" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> Mark Conrad's post asking how to hack Vista to hibernate reminded me of
>> a situation I encountered several months ago.
>>
>> Here's the gist of it: I put my laptop to sleep, packed it up into my
>> backpack within a booq sleeve, and approximately 30 minutes later took
>> it out of the backpack to use again. The problem was that my laptop had
>> overheated during this relatively short period of time, and became so
>> hot that I could smell burning plastic. Fortunately, I restarted the
>> computer in time to get the fan going and there wasn't any permanent
>> damage done.
>>
>> Question: what did I do wrong? Should I have NOT left my laptop in this
>> state, enclosed, for this period of time? I assumed that Vista's "sleep"
>> was the new "hibernate" and that it was safe to keep it in this state,
>> certainly for 30 minutes or longer. I've subsequently avoided using
>> sleep since, but I would really like to start using this feature again.
>
>
> Sleep is some bull that MS came up with to help destroy the environment.
> It saves the RAM contents to disk, like Hibernate, but it still keeps the
> RAM powered, like Standby, to save you that fifteen seconds or so when you
> want to resume using the computer. The reason for the saving to disk is
> pretty mysterious. Maybe it is in case the computer crashes while its
> asleep or something.
>
> Enable Hibernation at the command prompt (run as admin) with "powercfg -h
> on"
>
> ss.
>

No No No NEVER USE SLEEP MODE AND PUT YOUR NOTEBOOK AWAY! ONLY use
Hibernation that is the ONLY time you put it away. Hibernation powers down
your pc to resume like you never turnd it off sleep mode is what you use if
your going to walk away from your notebook for a wile or somthing of that
nature

"koch" wrote:

>
> Mark Conrad's post asking how to hack Vista to hibernate reminded me of
> a situation I encountered several months ago.
>
> Here's the gist of it: I put my laptop to sleep, packed it up into my
> backpack within a booq sleeve, and approximately 30 minutes later took
> it out of the backpack to use again. The problem was that my laptop had
> overheated during this relatively short period of time, and became so
> hot that I could smell burning plastic. Fortunately, I restarted the
> computer in time to get the fan going and there wasn't any permanent
> damage done.
>
> Question: what did I do wrong? Should I have NOT left my laptop in this
> state, enclosed, for this period of time? I assumed that Vista's "sleep"
> was the new "hibernate" and that it was safe to keep it in this state,
> certainly for 30 minutes or longer. I've subsequently avoided using
> sleep since, but I would really like to start using this feature again.
>
>
> --
> koch
>

NightRaven360;584945 Wrote:
> No No No NEVER USE SLEEP MODE AND PUT YOUR NOTEBOOK AWAY! ONLY use
> Hibernation that is the ONLY time you put it away. Hibernation powers
> down
> your pc to resume like you never turnd it off sleep mode is what you
> use if
> your going to walk away from your notebook for a wile or somthing of
> that
> nature
>
> "koch" wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> > > Mark Conrad's post asking how to hack Vista to hibernate reminded me
> > of
> > > a situation I encountered several months ago.
> > >
> > > Here's the gist of it: I put my laptop to sleep, packed it up into my
> > > backpack within a booq sleeve, and approximately 30 minutes later
> > took
> > > it out of the backpack to use again. The problem was that my laptop
> > had
> > > overheated during this relatively short period of time, and became so
> > > hot that I could smell burning plastic. Fortunately, I restarted the
> > > computer in time to get the fan going and there wasn't any permanent
> > > damage done.
> > >
> > > Question: what did I do wrong? Should I have NOT left my laptop in
> > this
> > > state, enclosed, for this period of time? I assumed that Vista's
> > "sleep"
> > > was the new "hibernate" and that it was safe to keep it in this
> > state,
> > > certainly for 30 minutes or longer. I've subsequently avoided using
> > > sleep since, but I would really like to start using this feature
> > again.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > koch
> > > > >

I sort of figured that was the case. Of course, I "cleaned up" the
hibernate option without knowing any better. That'll teach me to be so
over-zealous with disk cleanup.

Ok, I learned my lesson. How do I get hibernate back? Will Synapse's
command prompt do the trick?


--
koch

Hibernation settings don't work either, the same failures as Sleep.
Wakes right back up at an arbitrary interval.
Drives me nuts. Too much work for something that doesn't work.

"NightRaven360" <> wrote in message
news:8C242EBF-8C03-4A9F-8EF3-...
> No No No NEVER USE SLEEP MODE AND PUT YOUR NOTEBOOK AWAY! ONLY use
> Hibernation that is the ONLY time you put it away. Hibernation powers down
> your pc to resume like you never turnd it off sleep mode is what you use
> if
> your going to walk away from your notebook for a wile or somthing of that
> nature
>
> "koch" wrote:
>
>>
>> Mark Conrad's post asking how to hack Vista to hibernate reminded me of
>> a situation I encountered several months ago.
>>
>> Here's the gist of it: I put my laptop to sleep, packed it up into my
>> backpack within a booq sleeve, and approximately 30 minutes later took
>> it out of the backpack to use again. The problem was that my laptop had
>> overheated during this relatively short period of time, and became so
>> hot that I could smell burning plastic. Fortunately, I restarted the
>> computer in time to get the fan going and there wasn't any permanent
>> damage done.
>>
>> Question: what did I do wrong? Should I have NOT left my laptop in this
>> state, enclosed, for this period of time? I assumed that Vista's "sleep"
>> was the new "hibernate" and that it was safe to keep it in this state,
>> certainly for 30 minutes or longer. I've subsequently avoided using
>> sleep since, but I would really like to start using this feature again.
>>
>>
>> --
>> koch
>>

Synapse's command prompt suggestion did the trick. Thanks for the help!


--
koch

"koch" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> Synapse's command prompt suggestion did the trick. Thanks for the help!


You mean nobody even mentioned that in the other thread? This is just yet
another example of avoidable confusion and bad design in Vista.

ss.