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Paul Clemmons
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      01-15-2008
Ok, here we go again.
Loading a new system with SATA based DVDRW's give me a 0x07 BSOD. So I load
up the system using an older IDE DVDROM. Loads fine. As soon as I plug in
the SATA DVDRW, it will load to desktop and just before the sidebar starts
up, I BSOD with the 0x07 BSOD again. Frustrating is just the start of it.
I am curious if anyone else has had this issue and if they were able to
resolve it since the manufacturers are moving away from IDE to SATA. If
this becomes a bigger issue, Microsoft has to address it.

Additionally I did do a search on support.microsoft.com and the KB article
asking to do a regedit to a class line for the upper and lower registers
won't work since there are no listings for either.

These drives are on the same controller as the hard drives. No problem with
the hard drives.

Frustrated in Seattle
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      01-15-2008
Did you look on the manufactures web site for a firmware update for DVD
drive. I have a serial DVD drive Asus 1814BLT and it works fine in XP and
Vista Ultimate 64 Bit.
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"Paul Clemmons" wrote:

> Ok, here we go again.
> Loading a new system with SATA based DVDRW's give me a 0x07 BSOD. So I load
> up the system using an older IDE DVDROM. Loads fine. As soon as I plug in
> the SATA DVDRW, it will load to desktop and just before the sidebar starts
> up, I BSOD with the 0x07 BSOD again. Frustrating is just the start of it.
> I am curious if anyone else has had this issue and if they were able to
> resolve it since the manufacturers are moving away from IDE to SATA. If
> this becomes a bigger issue, Microsoft has to address it.
>
> Additionally I did do a search on support.microsoft.com and the KB article
> asking to do a regedit to a class line for the upper and lower registers
> won't work since there are no listings for either.
>
> These drives are on the same controller as the hard drives. No problem with
> the hard drives.
>
> Frustrated in Seattle
> Paul Clemmons
>
>
>

 
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      01-16-2008


"Paul Clemmons" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Ok, here we go again.
> Loading a new system with SATA based DVDRW's give me a 0x07 BSOD. So I
> load up the system using an older IDE DVDROM. Loads fine. As soon as I
> plug in the SATA DVDRW, it will load to desktop and just before the
> sidebar starts up, I BSOD with the 0x07 BSOD again. Frustrating is just
> the start of it. I am curious if anyone else has had this issue and if
> they were able to resolve it since the manufacturers are moving away from
> IDE to SATA. If this becomes a bigger issue, Microsoft has to address it.
>
> Additionally I did do a search on support.microsoft.com and the KB article
> asking to do a regedit to a class line for the upper and lower registers
> won't work since there are no listings for either.
>
> These drives are on the same controller as the hard drives. No problem
> with the hard drives.
>
> Frustrated in Seattle
> Paul Clemmons


You have an nVidia chipset? Their SATA drivers actually pretty much suck
right now, even the 32bit ones. You need to remember that MS does NOT write
the device drivers, the mfr does.

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Kerry Brown
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      01-16-2008
"Paul Clemmons" <> wrote in message
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> Ok, here we go again.
> Loading a new system with SATA based DVDRW's give me a 0x07 BSOD. So I
> load up the system using an older IDE DVDROM. Loads fine. As soon as I
> plug in the SATA DVDRW, it will load to desktop and just before the
> sidebar starts up, I BSOD with the 0x07 BSOD again. Frustrating is just
> the start of it. I am curious if anyone else has had this issue and if
> they were able to resolve it since the manufacturers are moving away from
> IDE to SATA. If this becomes a bigger issue, Microsoft has to address it.
>
> Additionally I did do a search on support.microsoft.com and the KB article
> asking to do a regedit to a class line for the upper and lower registers
> won't work since there are no listings for either.
>
> These drives are on the same controller as the hard drives. No problem
> with the hard drives.
>



Have you tried a different SATA DVDRW drive? Have you looked for a firmware
update for the DVDRW drive? Is there a BIOS update for the motherboard?

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Paul Clemmons
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      01-16-2008

"Kerry Brown" <*a*m> wrote in message
news:9433054B-D7B7-4AE7-B53C-...
> "Paul Clemmons" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Ok, here we go again.
>> Loading a new system with SATA based DVDRW's give me a 0x07 BSOD. So I
>> load up the system using an older IDE DVDROM. Loads fine. As soon as I
>> plug in the SATA DVDRW, it will load to desktop and just before the
>> sidebar starts up, I BSOD with the 0x07 BSOD again. Frustrating is just
>> the start of it. I am curious if anyone else has had this issue and if
>> they were able to resolve it since the manufacturers are moving away from
>> IDE to SATA. If this becomes a bigger issue, Microsoft has to address
>> it.
>>
>> Additionally I did do a search on support.microsoft.com and the KB
>> article asking to do a regedit to a class line for the upper and lower
>> registers won't work since there are no listings for either.
>>
>> These drives are on the same controller as the hard drives. No problem
>> with the hard drives.
>>

>
>
> Have you tried a different SATA DVDRW drive? Have you looked for a
> firmware update for the DVDRW drive? Is there a BIOS update for the
> motherboard?
>
> --
> Kerry Brown
> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>
>
>

I have actually tried a different brand of SATA DVDRW and yes it is an
Nforce chipset. Of course the second you try and install an updated chipset
driver using the 64 bit version directly from nVidia (Asus didn't have a
64bit driver themselves) all hell breaks loose and you end up re-installing
the OS. Of course this is a customers machine, not a personal one (I don't
have issues with the 64bit drivers for AMD/ATI, just nVidia) which lends
credence to the half baked drivers by nVidia. I re-installed the OS,
replaced the SATA DVDRW with an IDE with no issues. Plus, just for other
interest, this issue only rears its ugly head with Vista 64. Vista 32
doesn't have this issue with the SATA optical drives. That would tell me
there is a kernel bug error with the "basic" optical SATA drivers in
Vista64.
Paul Clemmons
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      01-17-2008


"Paul Clemmons" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Kerry Brown" <*a*m> wrote in message
> news:9433054B-D7B7-4AE7-B53C-...
>> "Paul Clemmons" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Ok, here we go again.
>>> Loading a new system with SATA based DVDRW's give me a 0x07 BSOD. So I
>>> load up the system using an older IDE DVDROM. Loads fine. As soon as I
>>> plug in the SATA DVDRW, it will load to desktop and just before the
>>> sidebar starts up, I BSOD with the 0x07 BSOD again. Frustrating is just
>>> the start of it. I am curious if anyone else has had this issue and if
>>> they were able to resolve it since the manufacturers are moving away
>>> from IDE to SATA. If this becomes a bigger issue, Microsoft has to
>>> address it.
>>>
>>> Additionally I did do a search on support.microsoft.com and the KB
>>> article asking to do a regedit to a class line for the upper and lower
>>> registers won't work since there are no listings for either.
>>>
>>> These drives are on the same controller as the hard drives. No problem
>>> with the hard drives.
>>>

>>
>>
>> Have you tried a different SATA DVDRW drive? Have you looked for a
>> firmware update for the DVDRW drive? Is there a BIOS update for the
>> motherboard?
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>>
>>
>>

> I have actually tried a different brand of SATA DVDRW and yes it is an
> Nforce chipset. Of course the second you try and install an updated
> chipset driver using the 64 bit version directly from nVidia (Asus didn't
> have a 64bit driver themselves) all hell breaks loose and you end up
> re-installing the OS. Of course this is a customers machine, not a
> personal one (I don't have issues with the 64bit drivers for AMD/ATI, just
> nVidia) which lends credence to the half baked drivers by nVidia. I
> re-installed the OS, replaced the SATA DVDRW with an IDE with no issues.
> Plus, just for other interest, this issue only rears its ugly head with
> Vista 64. Vista 32 doesn't have this issue with the SATA optical drives.
> That would tell me there is a kernel bug error with the "basic" optical
> SATA drivers in Vista64.


You got that right. Even though the 32bit Vista SATA drivers DO function,
they still don't have the functionality that XP drivers do. When you ask
their tech support about it, you just get the canned generic "Don't call us,
we'll call you" response.

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      01-17-2008
"Paul Clemmons" <> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Kerry Brown" <*a*m> wrote in message
> news:9433054B-D7B7-4AE7-B53C-...
>> "Paul Clemmons" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Ok, here we go again.
>>> Loading a new system with SATA based DVDRW's give me a 0x07 BSOD. So I
>>> load up the system using an older IDE DVDROM. Loads fine. As soon as I
>>> plug in the SATA DVDRW, it will load to desktop and just before the
>>> sidebar starts up, I BSOD with the 0x07 BSOD again. Frustrating is just
>>> the start of it. I am curious if anyone else has had this issue and if
>>> they were able to resolve it since the manufacturers are moving away
>>> from IDE to SATA. If this becomes a bigger issue, Microsoft has to
>>> address it.
>>>
>>> Additionally I did do a search on support.microsoft.com and the KB
>>> article asking to do a regedit to a class line for the upper and lower
>>> registers won't work since there are no listings for either.
>>>
>>> These drives are on the same controller as the hard drives. No problem
>>> with the hard drives.
>>>

>>
>>
>> Have you tried a different SATA DVDRW drive? Have you looked for a
>> firmware update for the DVDRW drive? Is there a BIOS update for the
>> motherboard?
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2/
>>
>>
>>

> I have actually tried a different brand of SATA DVDRW and yes it is an
> Nforce chipset. Of course the second you try and install an updated
> chipset driver using the 64 bit version directly from nVidia (Asus didn't
> have a 64bit driver themselves) all hell breaks loose and you end up
> re-installing the OS. Of course this is a customers machine, not a
> personal one (I don't have issues with the 64bit drivers for AMD/ATI, just
> nVidia) which lends credence to the half baked drivers by nVidia. I
> re-installed the OS, replaced the SATA DVDRW with an IDE with no issues.
> Plus, just for other interest, this issue only rears its ugly head with
> Vista 64. Vista 32 doesn't have this issue with the SATA optical drives.
> That would tell me there is a kernel bug error with the "basic" optical
> SATA drivers in Vista64.



I run Vista x64 with a SATA DVD and SATA and IDE hard drives on an nForce
430 board so I don't think this is the problem. There is a problem with the
firmware in some SATA DVD drives. Have you checked for updated firmware?
What were the drives you tried?

Your logic doesn't make sense. AMD/ATI is OK, AMD/nForce is not so it's a
kernel bug?

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