Protecting system restore

Creative Lab Zen Vision M, was produced in 2006 for XP, did you down load the
latest drivers (Vista) from their website?
The fact that installing the program and caused problems had nothing to do
with Vista, as much as you wish to think so, taking up so much space(as you
say), Vista does not destroy restore point.
If the program created so many problems, why blame Vista, ( I presume that
you have read about all the so called problems) and uninstalling Vista is a
backward step because whether we like it or not it will be the operating
system that we will have for the next 5-6 years.
By having Vista now, sorting out the (problems if any), and if we expect
that SP1 will sort everything out, we are most probably expecting to much.
There has not been a OS introduced that has not had problems.
I have had Vista installed now for about 10/11 mths with very few problems,
definately no major ones and with a variety of programs, yes, some programs
are not fully compatible, if I decide I would like a program, I down load
the trial versions and check, and if they do the job & are fully compatible I
eventually buy & install.
By installing Vista now and sorting out any problems, discussing items on
this and other discussion groups, will only improve the OS.
It took XP five yrs to become a good stable OS.

Happy Computing & Goodluck

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"TS Mathews" wrote:

> I had an amazing occurance with my recent attempt to use Vista. I had
> delayed as I knew some of my software wasn't compatible. Hearing of recent
> fixes, I took the plunge and thought everything was fine until I decided to
> buy a Creative Labs Zen Vision M. There were all sorts of errors on the
> setup and I had to connect to the net several times for updated software and
> when it was all finished, the programs didn't run worth a darn so, as I
> opened the control panel and realized how much software had been installed,
> I decided to do a system restore to make sure I got all of it only to find
> that there are no system restore points on my system!!! As I know
> positively that there were several created during the installation of
> various software packages, I can only assume that somehow, Creative Labs
> installation destroyed my restore points which brings me to the point of
> this...well, two points actually. One, to warn other who may be
> contemplating installing something from Creative Labs and the other to see
> if anyone has run into a similar problem and, further to that, is there any
> way to lock or otherwise safeguard a restore point so this sort of thing
> can't happen?
>
> Final point, my system was so messed up that I decided to go the the dreaded
> reformat and reinstall but I went back to XP...I think I'll just wait for
> the eagerly anticipated SP1 for Vista. ;-)
>
>
>
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>

"TS Mathews" <> wrote in message
news:46f5b92d$0$26401$.. .
>I had an amazing occurance with my recent attempt to use Vista. I had
>delayed as I knew some of my software wasn't compatible. Hearing of recent
>fixes, I took the plunge and thought everything was fine until I decided to
>buy a Creative Labs Zen Vision M. There were all sorts of errors on the
>setup and I had to connect to the net several times for updated software
>and when it was all finished, the programs didn't run worth a darn so, as I
>opened the control panel and realized how much software had been installed,
>I decided to do a system restore to make sure I got all of it only to find
>that there are no system restore points on my system!!! As I know
>positively that there were several created during the installation of
>various software packages, I can only assume that somehow, Creative Labs
>installation destroyed my restore points which brings me to the point of
>this...well, two points actually. One, to warn other who may be
>contemplating installing something from Creative Labs and the other to see
>if anyone has run into a similar problem and, further to that, is there any
>way to lock or otherwise safeguard a restore point so this sort of thing
>can't happen?
>
> Final point, my system was so messed up that I decided to go the the
> dreaded reformat and reinstall but I went back to XP...I think I'll just
> wait for the eagerly anticipated SP1 for Vista. ;-)
>
>

I had Vista Restore Points vanishing, and it was caused by my dual boot
setup.

See http://support.microsoft.com/kb/926185

Regards
Doug

There are two things that are known to destroy restore points. Dual booting
with XP, certain pre Vista versions of defrag products.

"TS Mathews" <> wrote in message
news:46f5b92d$0$26401$.. .
>I had an amazing occurance with my recent attempt to use Vista. I had
>delayed as I knew some of my software wasn't compatible. Hearing of recent
>fixes, I took the plunge and thought everything was fine until I decided to
>buy a Creative Labs Zen Vision M. There were all sorts of errors on the
>setup and I had to connect to the net several times for updated software
>and when it was all finished, the programs didn't run worth a darn so, as I
>opened the control panel and realized how much software had been installed,
>I decided to do a system restore to make sure I got all of it only to find
>that there are no system restore points on my system!!! As I know
>positively that there were several created during the installation of
>various software packages, I can only assume that somehow, Creative Labs
>installation destroyed my restore points which brings me to the point of
>this...well, two points actually. One, to warn other who may be
>contemplating installing something from Creative Labs and the other to see
>if anyone has run into a similar problem and, further to that, is there any
>way to lock or otherwise safeguard a restore point so this sort of thing
>can't happen?
>
> Final point, my system was so messed up that I decided to go the the
> dreaded reformat and reinstall but I went back to XP...I think I'll just
> wait for the eagerly anticipated SP1 for Vista. ;-)
>
>
>
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>

Le Sun, 23 Sep 2007 08:10:09 -0700, John Barnes ("John Barnes"
<>) a caressé son clavier pour nous dire ce qui suit:

> There are two things that are known to destroy restore points. Dual
> booting with XP, certain pre Vista versions of defrag products.

Di you think it's a normal use of an OS ?

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"TS Mathews" <> wrote in message
news:46f5b92d$0$26401$.. .
>I had an amazing occurance with my recent attempt to use Vista. I had
>delayed as I knew some of my software wasn't compatible. Hearing of recent
>fixes, I took the plunge and thought everything was fine until I decided to
>buy a Creative Labs Zen Vision M. There were all sorts of errors on the
>setup and I had to connect to the net several times for updated software
>and when it was all finished, the programs didn't run worth a darn so, as I
>opened the control panel and realized how much software had been installed,
>I decided to do a system restore to make sure I got all of it only to find
>that there are no system restore points on my system!!! As I know
>positively that there were several created during the installation of
>various software packages, I can only assume that somehow, Creative Labs
>installation destroyed my restore points which brings me to the point of
>this...well, two points actually. One, to warn other who may be
>contemplating installing something from Creative Labs and the other to see
>if anyone has run into a similar problem and, further to that, is there any
>way to lock or otherwise safeguard a restore point so this sort of thing
>can't happen?
>
> Final point, my system was so messed up that I decided to go the the
> dreaded reformat and reinstall but I went back to XP...I think I'll just
> wait for the eagerly anticipated SP1 for Vista. ;-)
>
>
>
> --
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>

please fix your system clock.

> "Bob J" wrote
>> Creative Lab Zen Vision M, was produced in 2006 for XP, did you down load
>> the >> latest drivers (Vista) from their website?
>> The fact that installing the program and caused problems had nothing to do
>> with Vista, as much as you wish to think so, taking up so much space(as
>> you say), Vista does not destroy restore point.


> TS Mathews wrote:
> I think you misunderstood my post...I said quite clearly that I believe the
> Creative Labs install somehow destroyed my restore points. While I can't
> swear that it did as I'm not a programmer and certainly have no way to see
> what programs did and didn't do. I simply know there were several restore
> points just prior to my inserting the Creative Labs' dvd. After the
> installation, they were all gone. Perhaps God did it but, having fiddled
> with Vista a time or two and had problems, losing restore points was never
> one of them so I certainly wouldn't blame Vista. I asked the question on a
> Vista NG as it occurred to me that there may be a way to "lock" or protect
> restore points that I had missed. I'd like to know for future reference.
>
> So, to make the as clear as I can, I have no problem with Vista other than
> the fact that too many things I use and like don't work well with it so I'll
> have to wait a bit before moving totally to it. As I know I can't have
> restore points if I dual boot with Vista and XP, my only option was and is
> to start over using XP alone.

Hi TS,

Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 is another option.
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/pro...c/default.mspx

Regards,
Bert Kinney MS-MVP Shell/User
http://bertk.mvps.org
Member: http://dts-l.org

The Problem Might Go Away If You Set Your Computer To The Correct Time Zone,
Just FYI.

"TS Mathews" <> wrote in message
news:46f5b92d$0$26401$.. .
> I had an amazing occurance with my recent attempt to use Vista. I had
> delayed as I knew some of my software wasn't compatible. Hearing of
> recent fixes, I took the plunge and thought everything was fine until I
> decided to buy a Creative Labs Zen Vision M. There were all sorts of
> errors on the setup and I had to connect to the net several times for
> updated software and when it was all finished, the programs didn't run
> worth a darn so, as I opened the control panel and realized how much
> software had been installed, I decided to do a system restore to make sure
> I got all of it only to find that there are no system restore points on my
> system!!! As I know positively that there were several created during the
> installation of various software packages, I can only assume that somehow,
> Creative Labs installation destroyed my restore points which brings me to
> the point of this...well, two points actually. One, to warn other who may
> be contemplating installing something from Creative Labs and the other to
> see if anyone has run into a similar problem and, further to that, is
> there any way to lock or otherwise safeguard a restore point so this sort
> of thing can't happen?
>
> Final point, my system was so messed up that I decided to go the the
> dreaded reformat and reinstall but I went back to XP...I think I'll just
> wait for the eagerly anticipated SP1 for Vista. ;-)
>
>
>
> --
> Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
>

I had an amazing occurance with my recent attempt to use Vista. I had
delayed as I knew some of my software wasn't compatible. Hearing of recent
fixes, I took the plunge and thought everything was fine until I decided to
buy a Creative Labs Zen Vision M. There were all sorts of errors on the
setup and I had to connect to the net several times for updated software and
when it was all finished, the programs didn't run worth a darn so, as I
opened the control panel and realized how much software had been installed,
I decided to do a system restore to make sure I got all of it only to find
that there are no system restore points on my system!!! As I know
positively that there were several created during the installation of
various software packages, I can only assume that somehow, Creative Labs
installation destroyed my restore points which brings me to the point of
this...well, two points actually. One, to warn other who may be
contemplating installing something from Creative Labs and the other to see
if anyone has run into a similar problem and, further to that, is there any
way to lock or otherwise safeguard a restore point so this sort of thing
can't happen?

Final point, my system was so messed up that I decided to go the the dreaded
reformat and reinstall but I went back to XP...I think I'll just wait for
the eagerly anticipated SP1 for Vista. ;-)



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"Bob J" <> wrote in message
news:0AD0B50A-CB4B-4740-9636-...
> Creative Lab Zen Vision M, was produced in 2006 for XP, did you down load
> the
> latest drivers (Vista) from their website?
> The fact that installing the program and caused problems had nothing to do
> with Vista, as much as you wish to think so, taking up so much space(as
> you
> say), Vista does not destroy restore point.

I think you misunderstood my post...I said quite clearly that I believe the
Creative Labs install somehow destroyed my restore points. While I can't
swear that it did as I'm not a programmer and certainly have no way to see
what programs did and didn't do. I simply know there were several restore
points just prior to my inserting the Creative Labs' dvd. After the
installation, they were all gone. Perhaps God did it but, having fiddled
with Vista a time or two and had problems, losing restore points was never
one of them so I certainly wouldn't blame Vista. I asked the question on a
Vista NG as it occurred to me that there may be a way to "lock" or protect
restore points that I had missed. I'd like to know for future reference.

So, to make the as clear as I can, I have no problem with Vista other than
the fact that too many things I use and like don't work well with it so I'll
have to wait a bit before moving totally to it. As I know I can't have
restore points if I dual boot with Vista and XP, my only option was and is
to start over using XP alone.



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