Question on using Vista upgrade version

I currently have 3 (somewhat aging) Windows XP Pro computers running on a
LAN. I'm planning on building a new system within the next several months
and I'm starting to consider Windows Vista as the possible OS.



I recently started reading this newsgroup to get myself up to date regarding
vista, its features and problems.



Based on what I've read so far, I'm focusing in on using Windows Ultimate
since I want both Remote Desktop and Media Center features. What I'm trying
to determine is if I can use the upgrade path or must I purchase a new
edition (expensive).



I read a post the other day
(http://www.vistax64.com:80/tutorials...n-install.html) which
explains how one can use the upgrade version to do a clean install of Vista.
My question is does this procedure work and if so, why would anyone spend
the money to purchase the full version?



Appreciate any and all comments.



Jim

I'll work, however your computer will eventually
flagged as "non-genuine" since it is only an upgrade
license and not a "full license". So you should
purchase a "full license" for absolute clean installations.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"Jim" wrote:

I currently have 3 (somewhat aging) Windows XP Pro computers running on a
LAN. I'm planning on building a new system within the next several months
and I'm starting to consider Windows Vista as the possible OS.



I recently started reading this newsgroup to get myself up to date regarding
vista, its features and problems.



Based on what I've read so far, I'm focusing in on using Windows Ultimate
since I want both Remote Desktop and Media Center features. What I'm trying
to determine is if I can use the upgrade path or must I purchase a new
edition (expensive).



I read a post the other day
(http://www.vistax64.com:80/tutorials...n-install.html) which
explains how one can use the upgrade version to do a clean install of Vista.
My question is does this procedure work and if so, why would anyone spend
the money to purchase the full version?



Appreciate any and all comments.



Jim

Hello.. this is a workaround that works now...

MS knows this of course but does not really endorse it.

This means that when SP1 comes out, or SP2 they may make this workaround
impossible to do, thus forcing everyone to install another OS before you
install Vista.
Of course I am talking about then having Vista with SP1 slipstreamed inside
it (SP included in the dvd).

If you ask me I dont think they will make this impossible.. but you never
know what MS will do.
They made vista for crying out loud.. I would never had thought MS was
capable of such incompetence...
so with MS anything is possible.


"Jim" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I currently have 3 (somewhat aging) Windows XP Pro computers running on a
>LAN. I'm planning on building a new system within the next several months
>and I'm starting to consider Windows Vista as the possible OS.
>
>
>
> I recently started reading this newsgroup to get myself up to date
> regarding vista, its features and problems.
>
>
>
> Based on what I've read so far, I'm focusing in on using Windows Ultimate
> since I want both Remote Desktop and Media Center features. What I'm
> trying to determine is if I can use the upgrade path or must I purchase a
> new edition (expensive).
>
>
>
> I read a post the other day
> (http://www.vistax64.com:80/tutorials...n-install.html) which
> explains how one can use the upgrade version to do a clean install of
> Vista. My question is does this procedure work and if so, why would anyone
> spend the money to purchase the full version?
>
>
>
> Appreciate any and all comments.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>

Oh? and how will it be flagged?


"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> I'll work, however your computer will eventually
> flagged as "non-genuine" since it is only an upgrade
> license and not a "full license". So you should
> purchase a "full license" for absolute clean installations.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Jim" wrote:
>
> I currently have 3 (somewhat aging) Windows XP Pro computers running on a
> LAN. I'm planning on building a new system within the next several months
> and I'm starting to consider Windows Vista as the possible OS.
>
>
>
> I recently started reading this newsgroup to get myself up to date
> regarding
> vista, its features and problems.
>
>
>
> Based on what I've read so far, I'm focusing in on using Windows Ultimate
> since I want both Remote Desktop and Media Center features. What I'm
> trying
> to determine is if I can use the upgrade path or must I purchase a new
> edition (expensive).
>
>
>
> I read a post the other day
> (http://www.vistax64.com:80/tutorials...n-install.html) which
> explains how one can use the upgrade version to do a clean install of
> Vista.
> My question is does this procedure work and if so, why would anyone spend
> the money to purchase the full version?
>
>
>
> Appreciate any and all comments.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>

Jim;
"does this procedure work"
Yes it works.

"why would anyone spend the money to purchase the full version?"
Because they do not want to tie up their Windows XP or do not have a
Windows XP license to tie the the Windows Vista upgrade computer.
A great many people are honest and will do what is right regardless
the additional cost.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Jim" <> wrote in message
news:...
>I currently have 3 (somewhat aging) Windows XP Pro computers running
>on a LAN. I'm planning on building a new system within the next
>several months and I'm starting to consider Windows Vista as the
>possible OS.
>
>
>
> I recently started reading this newsgroup to get myself up to date
> regarding vista, its features and problems.
>
>
>
> Based on what I've read so far, I'm focusing in on using Windows
> Ultimate since I want both Remote Desktop and Media Center features.
> What I'm trying to determine is if I can use the upgrade path or
> must I purchase a new edition (expensive).
>
>
>
> I read a post the other day
> (http://www.vistax64.com:80/tutorials...n-install.html)
> which explains how one can use the upgrade version to do a clean
> install of Vista. My question is does this procedure work and if so,
> why would anyone spend the money to purchase the full version?
>
>
>
> Appreciate any and all comments.
>
>
>
> Jim

Do I still need a full license since I already own a "genuine" copy of
Windows XP Pro? What then is the purpose of the upgrade license?

I would prefer NOT to install over an existing XP installation because of
possible problems mentioned in the posts.

Jim

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> I'll work, however your computer will eventually
> flagged as "non-genuine" since it is only an upgrade
> license and not a "full license". So you should
> purchase a "full license" for absolute clean installations.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Jim" wrote:
>
> I currently have 3 (somewhat aging) Windows XP Pro computers running on a
> LAN. I'm planning on building a new system within the next several months
> and I'm starting to consider Windows Vista as the possible OS.
>
>
>
> I recently started reading this newsgroup to get myself up to date
> regarding
> vista, its features and problems.
>
>
>
> Based on what I've read so far, I'm focusing in on using Windows Ultimate
> since I want both Remote Desktop and Media Center features. What I'm
> trying
> to determine is if I can use the upgrade path or must I purchase a new
> edition (expensive).
>
>
>
> I read a post the other day
> (http://www.vistax64.com:80/tutorials...n-install.html) which
> explains how one can use the upgrade version to do a clean install of
> Vista.
> My question is does this procedure work and if so, why would anyone spend
> the money to purchase the full version?
>
>
>
> Appreciate any and all comments.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>

The answer is you need a "full license" for Windows Vista
if Windows XP will not be present on the computer.
An "upgrade license" means exactly that. If you are
not upgrading from Windows XP, you are not upgrading
from anything but thin air.

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows Shell/User

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"Jim" wrote:

Do I still need a full license since I already own a "genuine" copy of
Windows XP Pro? What then is the purpose of the upgrade license?

I would prefer NOT to install over an existing XP installation because of
possible problems mentioned in the posts.

Jim

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> I'll work, however your computer will eventually
> flagged as "non-genuine" since it is only an upgrade
> license and not a "full license". So you should
> purchase a "full license" for absolute clean installations.
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows Shell/User
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Jim" wrote:
>
> I currently have 3 (somewhat aging) Windows XP Pro computers running on a
> LAN. I'm planning on building a new system within the next several months
> and I'm starting to consider Windows Vista as the possible OS.
>
>
>
> I recently started reading this newsgroup to get myself up to date
> regarding
> vista, its features and problems.
>
>
>
> Based on what I've read so far, I'm focusing in on using Windows Ultimate
> since I want both Remote Desktop and Media Center features. What I'm
> trying
> to determine is if I can use the upgrade path or must I purchase a new
> edition (expensive).
>
>
>
> I read a post the other day
> (http://www.vistax64.com:80/tutorials...n-install.html) which
> explains how one can use the upgrade version to do a clean install of
> Vista.
> My question is does this procedure work and if so, why would anyone spend
> the money to purchase the full version?
>
>
>
> Appreciate any and all comments.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>

If you already have Windows XP Pro not installed on any computer or
only installed on the computer you plan to install Windows Vista
Ultimate, you qualify for the upgrade.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


"Jim" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Do I still need a full license since I already own a "genuine" copy
> of Windows XP Pro? What then is the purpose of the upgrade license?
>
> I would prefer NOT to install over an existing XP installation
> because of possible problems mentioned in the posts.
>
> Jim

I would suggest you get a full version...if you can afford it.
It gives you more flexibilty and you are sure it will work.

On the other hand.. I would remain with XP since it is so much better than
vista and wins hands down in performance flexibility and compatibility.


"Jim" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Do I still need a full license since I already own a "genuine" copy of
> Windows XP Pro? What then is the purpose of the upgrade license?
>
> I would prefer NOT to install over an existing XP installation because of
> possible problems mentioned in the posts.
>
> Jim
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> I'll work, however your computer will eventually
>> flagged as "non-genuine" since it is only an upgrade
>> license and not a "full license". So you should
>> purchase a "full license" for absolute clean installations.
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows Shell/User
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Jim" wrote:
>>
>> I currently have 3 (somewhat aging) Windows XP Pro computers running on a
>> LAN. I'm planning on building a new system within the next several months
>> and I'm starting to consider Windows Vista as the possible OS.
>>
>>
>>
>> I recently started reading this newsgroup to get myself up to date
>> regarding
>> vista, its features and problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> Based on what I've read so far, I'm focusing in on using Windows Ultimate
>> since I want both Remote Desktop and Media Center features. What I'm
>> trying
>> to determine is if I can use the upgrade path or must I purchase a new
>> edition (expensive).
>>
>>
>>
>> I read a post the other day
>> (http://www.vistax64.com:80/tutorials...n-install.html) which
>> explains how one can use the upgrade version to do a clean install of
>> Vista.
>> My question is does this procedure work and if so, why would anyone spend
>> the money to purchase the full version?
>>
>>
>>
>> Appreciate any and all comments.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

>Because they do not want to tie up their Windows XP

unless the XP was an OEM version and you want to install vista on that
machine.



"Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Jim;
> "does this procedure work"
> Yes it works.
>
> "why would anyone spend the money to purchase the full version?"
> Because they do not want to tie up their Windows XP or do not have a
> Windows XP license to tie the the Windows Vista upgrade computer.
> A great many people are honest and will do what is right regardless the
> additional cost.
>
> --
> Jupiter Jones [MVP]
> http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
> http://www.dts-l.org
>
>
> "Jim" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>I currently have 3 (somewhat aging) Windows XP Pro computers running on a
>>LAN. I'm planning on building a new system within the next several months
>>and I'm starting to consider Windows Vista as the possible OS.
>>
>>
>>
>> I recently started reading this newsgroup to get myself up to date
>> regarding vista, its features and problems.
>>
>>
>>
>> Based on what I've read so far, I'm focusing in on using Windows Ultimate
>> since I want both Remote Desktop and Media Center features. What I'm
>> trying to determine is if I can use the upgrade path or must I purchase a
>> new edition (expensive).
>>
>>
>>
>> I read a post the other day
>> (http://www.vistax64.com:80/tutorials...n-install.html) which
>> explains how one can use the upgrade version to do a clean install of
>> Vista. My question is does this procedure work and if so, why would
>> anyone spend the money to purchase the full version?
>>
>>
>>
>> Appreciate any and all comments.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim
>