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      03-06-2010
I have Home Premium. Last nite I was surfing the 'net when all of a sudden a
window pops up & tells me my PC is infected. The name of the program is Vista
Antivirus 2010. I was using the standard account. I had previously downloaded
& installed Malwarebytes, so I logged off the standard account & logged onto
the administrator account. I started the program & updated it & ran a full
scan. It found 2 files both of which were in the standard account. It deleted
them. Please explain in laymans terms how & why the infection was isolated to
the standard account. Are there super viruses, trojans, malware, etc that are
able to infect the whole PC from the limited account? Somehow the program
messed up the standard account because when I tried to open Windows Explorer,
a window popped up asking which program to use. Ultimately, I ended up
deleting the standard account & creating a new one. So far, so good. Is Vista
more secure in this respect than the XP limited account? Is it possible to
make the standard account in Home Premium more secure by tweaking certain
settings or installing a cetain software program or do I need the Pro
version? I have Malwarebytes, Security Essentials, Spybot, Adaware & AVG
running in the background & it slows down my PC even with 4 MB of RAM. Can
you recommend a program(preferably free) that is antivirus, antimalware &
antirootkit all in one?

Thank you.
David
 
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      03-06-2010
On Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:54:01 -0800, pc nerd
<> wrote:

>I have Home Premium. Last nite I was surfing the 'net when all of a sudden a
>window pops up & tells me my PC is infected. The name of the program is Vista
>Antivirus 2010. I was using the standard account. I had previously downloaded
>& installed Malwarebytes, so I logged off the standard account & logged onto
>the administrator account. I started the program & updated it & ran a full
>scan. It found 2 files both of which were in the standard account. It deleted
>them. Please explain in laymans terms how & why the infection was isolated to
>the standard account. Are there super viruses, trojans, malware, etc that are
>able to infect the whole PC from the limited account? Somehow the program
>messed up the standard account because when I tried to open Windows Explorer,
>a window popped up asking which program to use. Ultimately, I ended up
>deleting the standard account & creating a new one. So far, so good. Is Vista
>more secure in this respect than the XP limited account? Is it possible to
>make the standard account in Home Premium more secure by tweaking certain
>settings or installing a cetain software program or do I need the Pro
>version? I have Malwarebytes, Security Essentials, Spybot, Adaware & AVG
>running in the background & it slows down my PC even with 4 MB of RAM. Can
>you recommend a program(preferably free) that is antivirus, antimalware &
>antirootkit all in one?
>
>Thank you.
>David


Um , you installed a bug ; Vista Antivirus 2010 is a bug .
 
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Ǝиçεl
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      03-06-2010
Hello David,

"Do not use more than one anti-virus, 2 or more is a sure way to hit
trouble, just as with firewall's." Microsoft Security Essentials and AVG
running in the background. ??
you need to have ONLY ONE anti-virus turn ON (always)


However, I'd be surprised if an install of MSE doesn't automatically disable
Malwarebytes, Spybot (It is possible that the tea timer option was checked),
and Adaware on your behalf.

<http://www.microsoft.com/SECURITY_ESSENTIALS/support.aspx?mkt=en-us&s=4#mainNav>

<http://www.microsoft.com/SECURITY_ESSENTIALS/support.aspx?mkt=en-us&s=3#mainNav>
-=-





"pc nerd" wrote:

> I have Home Premium. Last nite I was surfing the 'net when all of a sudden a
> window pops up & tells me my PC is infected. The name of the program is Vista
> Antivirus 2010. I was using the standard account. I had previously downloaded
> & installed Malwarebytes, so I logged off the standard account & logged onto
> the administrator account. I started the program & updated it & ran a full
> scan. It found 2 files both of which were in the standard account. It deleted
> them. Please explain in laymans terms how & why the infection was isolated to
> the standard account. Are there super viruses, trojans, malware, etc that are
> able to infect the whole PC from the limited account? Somehow the program
> messed up the standard account because when I tried to open Windows Explorer,
> a window popped up asking which program to use. Ultimately, I ended up
> deleting the standard account & creating a new one. So far, so good. Is Vista
> more secure in this respect than the XP limited account? Is it possible to
> make the standard account in Home Premium more secure by tweaking certain
> settings or installing a cetain software program or do I need the Pro
> version? I have Malwarebytes, Security Essentials, Spybot, Adaware & AVG
> running in the background & it slows down my PC even with 4 MB of RAM. Can
> you recommend a program(preferably free) that is antivirus, antimalware &
> antirootkit all in one?
>
> Thank you.
> David

 
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      03-06-2010
> Um , you installed a bug ; Vista Antivirus 2010 is a bug .

I didn't install it. It was a "drive-by download".

"Jim" wrote:

> On

Sat, 6 Mar 2010 06:54:01 -0800, pc nerd
> <> wrote:
>
> >I have Home Premium. Last nite I was surfing the 'net when all of a sudden a
> >window pops up & tells me my PC is infected. The name of the program is Vista
> >Antivirus 2010. I was using the standard account. I had previously downloaded
> >& installed Malwarebytes, so I logged off the standard account & logged onto
> >the administrator account. I started the program & updated it & ran a full
> >scan. It found 2 files both of which were in the standard account. It deleted
> >them. Please explain in laymans terms how & why the infection was isolated to
> >the standard account. Are there super viruses, trojans, malware, etc that are
> >able to infect the whole PC from the limited account? Somehow the program
> >messed up the standard account because when I tried to open Windows Explorer,
> >a window popped up asking which program to use. Ultimately, I ended up
> >deleting the standard account & creating a new one. So far, so good. Is Vista
> >more secure in this respect than the XP limited account? Is it possible to
> >make the standard account in Home Premium more secure by tweaking certain
> >settings or installing a cetain software program or do I need the Pro
> >version? I have Malwarebytes, Security Essentials, Spybot, Adaware & AVG
> >running in the background & it slows down my PC even with 4 MB of RAM. Can
> >you recommend a program(preferably free) that is antivirus, antimalware &
> >antirootkit all in one?
> >
> >Thank you.
> >David

>
> Um , you installed a bug ; Vista Antivirus 2010 is a bug .
> .
>

 
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      03-06-2010
> However, I'd be surprised if an install of MSE doesn't automatically disable
> Malwarebytes, Spybot (It is possible that the tea timer option was checked),
> and Adaware on your behalf.


That's possible.

Both AVG & MSE have real-time protection, but neither one prevented the
program from installing itself. I don't understand that. I know that more
than one program installed can cause problems. I have 4 MB of RAM installed &
the programs are slowing down my laptop. I have to come up with a single
solution. I'd rather have just one antivirus, antimalware & antirootkit
program.

"Ǝиçεl" wrote:

> Hello David,
>
> "Do not use more than one anti-virus, 2 or more is a sure way to hit
> trouble, just as with firewall's." Microsoft Security Essentials and AVG
> running in the background. ??
> you need to have ONLY ONE anti-virus turn ON (always)
>
>
> However, I'd be surprised if an install of MSE doesn't automatically disable
> Malwarebytes, Spybot (It is possible that the tea timer option was checked),
> and Adaware on your behalf.
>
> <http://www.microsoft.com/SECURITY_ESSENTIALS/support.aspx?mkt=en-us&s=4#mainNav>
>
> <http://www.microsoft.com/SECURITY_ESSENTIALS/support.aspx?mkt=en-us&s=3#mainNav>
> -=-
>
>
>
>
>
> "pc nerd" wrote:
>
> > I have Home Premium. Last nite I was surfing the 'net when all of a sudden a
> > window pops up & tells me my PC is infected. The name of the program is Vista
> > Antivirus 2010. I was using the standard account. I had previously downloaded
> > & installed Malwarebytes, so I logged off the standard account & logged onto
> > the administrator account. I started the program & updated it & ran a full
> > scan. It found 2 files both of which were in the standard account. It deleted
> > them. Please explain in laymans terms how & why the infection was isolated to
> > the standard account. Are there super viruses, trojans, malware, etc that are
> > able to infect the whole PC from the limited account? Somehow the program
> > messed up the standard account because when I tried to open Windows Explorer,
> > a window popped up asking which program to use. Ultimately, I ended up
> > deleting the standard account & creating a new one. So far, so good. Is Vista
> > more secure in this respect than the XP limited account? Is it possible to
> > make the standard account in Home Premium more secure by tweaking certain
> > settings or installing a cetain software program or do I need the Pro
> > version? I have Malwarebytes, Security Essentials, Spybot, Adaware & AVG
> > running in the background & it slows down my PC even with 4 MB of RAM. Can
> > you recommend a program(preferably free) that is antivirus, antimalware &
> > antirootkit all in one?
> >
> > Thank you.
> > David

 
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Ǝиçεl
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      03-06-2010
Having uninstalled Spybot without first fully disabling Spybot Tea Timer
could be the cause of this behavior.
I'd recommend
(1) reinstalling Spybot;
(2) enabling Tea Timer;
(3) fully disable Tea Timer per
<http://aumha.net/viewtopic.php?t=32409> ; and then
(4) uninstalling Spybot again.
-=-


"pc nerd" wrote:

> > However, I'd be surprised if an install of MSE doesn't automatically disable
> > Malwarebytes, Spybot (It is possible that the tea timer option was checked),
> > and Adaware on your behalf.

>
> That's possible.
>
> Both AVG & MSE have real-time protection, but neither one prevented the
> program from installing itself. I don't understand that. I know that more
> than one program installed can cause problems. I have 4 MB of RAM installed &
> the programs are slowing down my laptop. I have to come up with a single
> solution. I'd rather have just one antivirus, antimalware & antirootkit
> program.
>
> "Ǝиçεl" wrote:
>
> > Hello David,
> >
> > "Do not use more than one anti-virus, 2 or more is a sure way to hit
> > trouble, just as with firewall's." Microsoft Security Essentials and AVG
> > running in the background. ??
> > you need to have ONLY ONE anti-virus turn ON (always)
> >
> >
> > However, I'd be surprised if an install of MSE doesn't automatically disable
> > Malwarebytes, Spybot (It is possible that the tea timer option was checked),
> > and Adaware on your behalf.
> >
> > <http://www.microsoft.com/SECURITY_ESSENTIALS/support.aspx?mkt=en-us&s=4#mainNav>
> >
> > <http://www.microsoft.com/SECURITY_ESSENTIALS/support.aspx?mkt=en-us&s=3#mainNav>
> > -=-
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "pc nerd" wrote:
> >
> > > I have Home Premium. Last nite I was surfing the 'net when all of a sudden a
> > > window pops up & tells me my PC is infected. The name of the program is Vista
> > > Antivirus 2010. I was using the standard account. I had previously downloaded
> > > & installed Malwarebytes, so I logged off the standard account & logged onto
> > > the administrator account. I started the program & updated it & ran a full
> > > scan. It found 2 files both of which were in the standard account. It deleted
> > > them. Please explain in laymans terms how & why the infection was isolated to
> > > the standard account. Are there super viruses, trojans, malware, etc that are
> > > able to infect the whole PC from the limited account? Somehow the program
> > > messed up the standard account because when I tried to open Windows Explorer,
> > > a window popped up asking which program to use. Ultimately, I ended up
> > > deleting the standard account & creating a new one. So far, so good. Is Vista
> > > more secure in this respect than the XP limited account? Is it possible to
> > > make the standard account in Home Premium more secure by tweaking certain
> > > settings or installing a cetain software program or do I need the Pro
> > > version? I have Malwarebytes, Security Essentials, Spybot, Adaware & AVG
> > > running in the background & it slows down my PC even with 4 MB of RAM. Can
> > > you recommend a program(preferably free) that is antivirus, antimalware &
> > > antirootkit all in one?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > > David

 
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