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Richard K
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      10-21-2009

SBS2008 Std (Exchange 2007)

1. Exchange Management Console/Organization Configuration/Hub
Transport/Global Settings/Transport Settings - Check YES on "Max number of
recipients" and set to 5000 (default)
2. Exchange Management Console/Recipient Configuration/Mailbox/(user)/Mail
Flow Settings tab/Delivery Options - Maximum Recipients is NOT checked and
is blank

Am I understanding this correctly... with these settings the default for all
users in the domain is they cannot have more than 5000 recipients in an
email and for this particular user they are not overriding this default
setting so they are at the 5000 mark as well? If I want the user to be more
or less restrictive than the overall policy I can check #2 above and fill in
a number?

Thanks!

-Richard K


 
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Ace Fekay [MCT]
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      10-21-2009
"Richard K" <> wrote in message
news:...
> SBS2008 Std (Exchange 2007)
>
> 1. Exchange Management Console/Organization Configuration/Hub
> Transport/Global Settings/Transport Settings - Check YES on "Max number of
> recipients" and set to 5000 (default)
> 2. Exchange Management Console/Recipient
> Configuration/Mailbox/(user)/Mail Flow Settings tab/Delivery Options -
> Maximum Recipients is NOT checked and is blank
>
> Am I understanding this correctly... with these settings the default for
> all users in the domain is they cannot have more than 5000 recipients in
> an email and for this particular user they are not overriding this default
> setting so they are at the 5000 mark as well? If I want the user to be
> more or less restrictive than the overall policy I can check #2 above and
> fill in a number?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Richard K
>
>



Yes, you can restrict and override the global setting in #1, only if it were
less, not more than the global, based on the "the lowest value takes
precedence" rule stated in the help files. Read below for more info.

For #1:
From the help files:
"Maximum number of recipients: This field specifies the maximum number of
recipients in a message. The default is 5000. The valid input range is 0 to
2147483647. If you clear the check box next to Maximum number of recipients,
no limit is imposed on the number of recipients in a message. Microsoft
Exchange Server 2007 treats an unexpanded distribution group as one
recipient."

This affects an individual's single outbound email, which also affects a
distribution group to the 5000 limit. If you change it, it affects all
individuals.

#2,
From the help files:
"Maximum Recipients Select this check box and use the corresponding text
box to specify the maximum number of recipients to whom the mailbox user is
allowed to address an e-mail message. You can enter a value between 0 and
2,147,483,647. Clear this check box to remove this limit."

Generally speaking:
From the help files regarding Max Recipients per message:
"Maximum Recipients per Message Restrictions: It can take a significant
amount of time for a Hub Transport server to route messages that are
addressed to a large number of recipients. As a result, this may affect the
performance of the Hub Transport server, which could impact the overall
message delivery in your Exchange organization.

To eliminate this risk, you can restrict the number of recipients that are
allowed per message. Although you can configure this restriction at the
mailbox level, you can also configure it at a higher level, such as the
organization level, connector level (only for Receive connectors), and Hub
Transport server level. Generally, it is a best practice to configure this
setting at a higher level and use the mailbox-level configuration only for
exceptions. For more information about the different levels at which you can
configure this restriction, as well as a list of default values, see
Managing Message Size Limits."


If the Global or other settings conflict, depending on what service pack
version is installed on Exchange 2007, however each version goes by the "
the lowest value takes precedence" rule.
======
"Global limits These limits apply to all Exchange 2007 and Exchange Server
2003 servers that exist in the organization. The global message limits are
stored in the Active Directory directory service.

In the release to manufacturing (RTM) version of Microsoft Exchange Server
2007, it is common for the organization limits and the global limits to
conflict. When the organizational limits and the global message limits
conflict, the lowest value takes precedence. In Exchange 2007 RTM, you must
use Exchange System Manager on an Exchange 2003 server or the Active
Directory Service Interfaces (ADSI) Edit tool to modify global message
limits. For more information, see How to Modify Exchange 2003 Global Message
Size Limits in Exchange 2007 RTM.

In Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 Service Pack 1 (SP1), the condition that
cause the organization limits and the global limits to conflict has been
eliminated. Changes that you make to the organizational limits are
automatically copied to the corresponding global limits. In Exchange 2007
SP1, you can modify the organizational limits by using the
Set-TransportConfig cmdlet in the Exchange Management Shell, or by
configuring the Hub Transport server organization configuration properties
in the Exchange Management Console."
======


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Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit among
responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your resolution.

Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA
2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
Microsoft Certified Trainer

For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.





 
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Richard K
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      10-21-2009
Thanks Ace. I read the same thing. I just wanted to make sure I was
interpreting things correctly.

-Richard K

"Ace Fekay [MCT]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "Richard K" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> SBS2008 Std (Exchange 2007)
>>
>> 1. Exchange Management Console/Organization Configuration/Hub
>> Transport/Global Settings/Transport Settings - Check YES on "Max number
>> of recipients" and set to 5000 (default)
>> 2. Exchange Management Console/Recipient
>> Configuration/Mailbox/(user)/Mail Flow Settings tab/Delivery Options -
>> Maximum Recipients is NOT checked and is blank
>>
>> Am I understanding this correctly... with these settings the default for
>> all users in the domain is they cannot have more than 5000 recipients in
>> an email and for this particular user they are not overriding this
>> default setting so they are at the 5000 mark as well? If I want the user
>> to be more or less restrictive than the overall policy I can check #2
>> above and fill in a number?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Richard K
>>
>>

>
>
> Yes, you can restrict and override the global setting in #1, only if it
> were less, not more than the global, based on the "the lowest value takes
> precedence" rule stated in the help files. Read below for more info.
>
> For #1:
> From the help files:
> "Maximum number of recipients: This field specifies the maximum number
> of recipients in a message. The default is 5000. The valid input range is
> 0 to 2147483647. If you clear the check box next to Maximum number of
> recipients, no limit is imposed on the number of recipients in a message.
> Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 treats an unexpanded distribution group as
> one recipient."
>
> This affects an individual's single outbound email, which also affects a
> distribution group to the 5000 limit. If you change it, it affects all
> individuals.
>
> #2,
> From the help files:
> "Maximum Recipients Select this check box and use the corresponding text
> box to specify the maximum number of recipients to whom the mailbox user
> is allowed to address an e-mail message. You can enter a value between 0
> and 2,147,483,647. Clear this check box to remove this limit."
>
> Generally speaking:
> From the help files regarding Max Recipients per message:
> "Maximum Recipients per Message Restrictions: It can take a significant
> amount of time for a Hub Transport server to route messages that are
> addressed to a large number of recipients. As a result, this may affect
> the performance of the Hub Transport server, which could impact the
> overall message delivery in your Exchange organization.
>
> To eliminate this risk, you can restrict the number of recipients that are
> allowed per message. Although you can configure this restriction at the
> mailbox level, you can also configure it at a higher level, such as the
> organization level, connector level (only for Receive connectors), and Hub
> Transport server level. Generally, it is a best practice to configure this
> setting at a higher level and use the mailbox-level configuration only for
> exceptions. For more information about the different levels at which you
> can configure this restriction, as well as a list of default values, see
> Managing Message Size Limits."
>
>
> If the Global or other settings conflict, depending on what service pack
> version is installed on Exchange 2007, however each version goes by the "
> the lowest value takes precedence" rule.
> ======
> "Global limits These limits apply to all Exchange 2007 and Exchange
> Server 2003 servers that exist in the organization. The global message
> limits are stored in the Active Directory directory service.
>
> In the release to manufacturing (RTM) version of Microsoft Exchange Server
> 2007, it is common for the organization limits and the global limits to
> conflict. When the organizational limits and the global message limits
> conflict, the lowest value takes precedence. In Exchange 2007 RTM, you
> must use Exchange System Manager on an Exchange 2003 server or the Active
> Directory Service Interfaces (ADSI) Edit tool to modify global message
> limits. For more information, see How to Modify Exchange 2003 Global
> Message Size Limits in Exchange 2007 RTM.
>
> In Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 Service Pack 1 (SP1), the condition that
> cause the organization limits and the global limits to conflict has been
> eliminated. Changes that you make to the organizational limits are
> automatically copied to the corresponding global limits. In Exchange 2007
> SP1, you can modify the organizational limits by using the
> Set-TransportConfig cmdlet in the Exchange Management Shell, or by
> configuring the Hub Transport server organization configuration properties
> in the Exchange Management Console."
> ======
>
>
> --
> Ace
>
> This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and
> confers no rights.
>
> Please reply back to the newsgroup or forum for collaboration benefit
> among responding engineers, and to help others benefit from your
> resolution.
>
> Ace Fekay, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008 & Exchange 2007, MCSE & MCSA
> 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
> Microsoft Certified Trainer
>
> For urgent issues, please contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check
> http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
>
>
>
>



 
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Ace Fekay [MCT]
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"Richard K" <> wrote in message
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> Thanks Ace. I read the same thing. I just wanted to make sure I was
> interpreting things correctly.


Then you read the same thing I did. :-)

To simplify it - the lower number between the two settings will take
precedence.

Ace


 
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