Randomize working - Activesync 4.2 Beta & Windows Mobile 2005

Hi :

I recently bought a new Dell Axim X51V PDA. I was a 'more or less' happy
user of Dell Axim X5, windows mobile 2002 & activesync 3.8, which few times
had some USB problems to synch, but normally worked OK.

Now, with the new PDA, I feel like a Beta tester, using a 'beta' version of
Windows Mobile 2005 with a beta Activesync 4.1 (or 4.2). I see miles of mails
in different world forums, too many people asking why are so many problems to
sync through USB, and why Microsoft decided to forget about synch through
Wireless wifi, a very fast and confortable method used for so many users. Why
Microsoft deleted the Schedule button just for Windows Mobile 2005 (it was
very useful with Windows Mobile 2002).

My panorama :

Two PC's (home and work) equipped with Windows XP, SP2 and the last updates,
Activesync 4.1 or 4.2 Beta, correct setup for firewall and antivirus,
ethernet services like share deleted.

Home PC -> impossible to sync through USB. I usually did through wireless
with my old Dell Axim X5... but now I can not because I have activesync 4.1
and can not use older versions because they don't work with Windows Mobile
2005... Microsoft just inform you about 'no wireless possible' in few lines
losted inside some big web page... So I had to buy a bluetooth-usb adapter.
Now I can sync my new Dell Axim X51V through Bluetooth-usb adapter. (no
wireless wifi, no USB dock station).

Work PC -> I use USB dockstation to sync. No problem with my old Dell Axim
X5, but very difficult with Dell Axim X51V.
One of every 25 tries (or more) will work. The other 24 tries it will be
impossible to sync, with different results.

I send you some Ethereal sniffers from USB-Ethernet done while trying to
sync Dell Axim X51v PDA with work PC, wishing you'll find why it doesn't work
and solve all the problems in version 4.3 as soon as possible. Please contact
me if you need these files in a different format.

(files not really sended in this forum, if you would like to have them
please contact me)

Sended Files :

01.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
02.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows error
'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
03.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows error
'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
04.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes and 20
minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll stop.
05.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
06.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has updated).
The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
07.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes and 20
minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll stop.
08.cap - ActiveSync will be 'Connecting' for evermore after entering
password, but really is doing nothing.
09.cap - ActiveSync takes a long time in 'Connecting' and finally shows
error 'Sync can not be completed succesfully.
10.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has updated).
The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.

Just once a week Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
changes-Synchronizing-Connected' and finnally mantains the connection for
hours and hours allowing to explore files and install new software. All the
other times it's impossible to install nothing because you'll loose the
connection while...

Please, I understand I'm not alone with all this problems, miles of users
are having similar problems because of inestabilities of Activesync, I wish
your programmers and designers will be serious and responsibles and try to
solve all this urgently.

Best regards,

Paco Plus



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On Wed, 10 May 2006 07:35:02 -0700, Paco Plus
<> wrote:

>Hi :
>
>I recently bought a new Dell Axim X51V PDA. I was a 'more or less' happy
>user of Dell Axim X5, windows mobile 2002 & activesync 3.8, which few times
>had some USB problems to synch, but normally worked OK.
>
>Now, with the new PDA, I feel like a Beta tester, using a 'beta' version of
>Windows Mobile 2005 with a beta Activesync 4.1 (or 4.2). I see miles of mails
>in different world forums, too many people asking why are so many problems to
>sync through USB, and why Microsoft decided to forget about synch through
>Wireless wifi, a very fast and confortable method used for so many users. Why
>Microsoft deleted the Schedule button just for Windows Mobile 2005 (it was
>very useful with Windows Mobile 2002).
>
>My panorama :
>
>Two PC's (home and work) equipped with Windows XP, SP2 and the last updates,
>Activesync 4.1 or 4.2 Beta, correct setup for firewall and antivirus,
>ethernet services like share deleted.
>
>Home PC -> impossible to sync through USB. I usually did through wireless
>with my old Dell Axim X5... but now I can not because I have activesync 4.1
>and can not use older versions because they don't work with Windows Mobile
>2005... Microsoft just inform you about 'no wireless possible' in few lines
>losted inside some big web page... So I had to buy a bluetooth-usb adapter.
>Now I can sync my new Dell Axim X51V through Bluetooth-usb adapter. (no
>wireless wifi, no USB dock station).
>
>Work PC -> I use USB dockstation to sync. No problem with my old Dell Axim
>X5, but very difficult with Dell Axim X51V.
>One of every 25 tries (or more) will work. The other 24 tries it will be
>impossible to sync, with different results.

Can you try uninstalling the firewall, and see if it connects OK.

--
Rob Borek
Want *ONE ON ONE* support? http://www.pocketpcone2one.com
Please place all replies into the newsgroup so that others can benefit.

I Used a XDA II mini with Mobile Windows 2003 64mg ROM and he/she didn't
have these problems.

Now I decided to change for a Torq P120 with Mobile Windows 2005 with 128 mb
ROM and it is a hell to synchronize.

I have + - 1000 contacts and he don't get to synchronize nor 600

He/she locks periodically

What do make??? Do I go back to the old?? The microsoft doesn't talk
anything about this, million in investment and thousands of programmers and
nothing works well!!!

Fernando

--------


Eu Usava um XDA II mini com Windows Mobile 2003 64mg ROM e não tinha estes
problemas.

Agora resolvi trocar por um Torq P120 com Windows Mobile 2005 com 128 mb ROM
e está um inferno sincronizar.

Tenho +- 1000 contatos e ele não consegue sincronizar nem 600

Trava periodicamente

O que faço ??? Volto para o antigo ?? A microsoft não fala nada sobre isto,
milhões em investimento e milhares de programadores e nada funciona bem!!!

"Paco Plus" <> escreveu na mensagem
news:AFBE3861-73B7-46FD-9F73-...
> Hi :
>
> I recently bought a new Dell Axim X51V PDA. I was a 'more or less' happy
> user of Dell Axim X5, windows mobile 2002 & activesync 3.8, which few
> times
> had some USB problems to synch, but normally worked OK.
>
> Now, with the new PDA, I feel like a Beta tester, using a 'beta' version
> of
> Windows Mobile 2005 with a beta Activesync 4.1 (or 4.2). I see miles of
> mails
> in different world forums, too many people asking why are so many problems
> to
> sync through USB, and why Microsoft decided to forget about synch through
> Wireless wifi, a very fast and confortable method used for so many users.
> Why
> Microsoft deleted the Schedule button just for Windows Mobile 2005 (it was
> very useful with Windows Mobile 2002).
>
> My panorama :
>
> Two PC's (home and work) equipped with Windows XP, SP2 and the last
> updates,
> Activesync 4.1 or 4.2 Beta, correct setup for firewall and antivirus,
> ethernet services like share deleted.
>
> Home PC -> impossible to sync through USB. I usually did through wireless
> with my old Dell Axim X5... but now I can not because I have activesync
> 4.1
> and can not use older versions because they don't work with Windows Mobile
> 2005... Microsoft just inform you about 'no wireless possible' in few
> lines
> losted inside some big web page... So I had to buy a bluetooth-usb
> adapter.
> Now I can sync my new Dell Axim X51V through Bluetooth-usb adapter. (no
> wireless wifi, no USB dock station).
>
> Work PC -> I use USB dockstation to sync. No problem with my old Dell Axim
> X5, but very difficult with Dell Axim X51V.
> One of every 25 tries (or more) will work. The other 24 tries it will be
> impossible to sync, with different results.
>
> I send you some Ethereal sniffers from USB-Ethernet done while trying to
> sync Dell Axim X51v PDA with work PC, wishing you'll find why it doesn't
> work
> and solve all the problems in version 4.3 as soon as possible. Please
> contact
> me if you need these files in a different format.
>
> (files not really sended in this forum, if you would like to have them
> please contact me)
>
> Sended Files :
>
> 01.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
> 02.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows error
> 'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
> 03.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows error
> 'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
> 04.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes and 20
> minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll stop.
> 05.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
> 06.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has updated).
> The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
> 07.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes and 20
> minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll stop.
> 08.cap - ActiveSync will be 'Connecting' for evermore after entering
> password, but really is doing nothing.
> 09.cap - ActiveSync takes a long time in 'Connecting' and finally shows
> error 'Sync can not be completed succesfully.
> 10.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has updated).
> The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
>
> Just once a week Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> changes-Synchronizing-Connected' and finnally mantains the connection for
> hours and hours allowing to explore files and install new software. All
> the
> other times it's impossible to install nothing because you'll loose the
> connection while...
>
> Please, I understand I'm not alone with all this problems, miles of users
> are having similar problems because of inestabilities of Activesync, I
> wish
> your programmers and designers will be serious and responsibles and try to
> solve all this urgently.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Paco Plus
>
>
>
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> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...tpc.activesync

Hi Fernando:

As I see, thousands of 'happy' users with Windows Mobile 2003 & ActiveSync
3.8 are having serious problems with Windows Mobile 2005 & ActiveSync 4.1
(4.0, 4.2, ...).

Microsoft is doing nothing about that... that's all.

Best regards,

Francesc Mas


"Fernando Rodrigues" wrote:

> I Used a XDA II mini with Mobile Windows 2003 64mg ROM and he/she didn't
> have these problems.
>
> Now I decided to change for a Torq P120 with Mobile Windows 2005 with 128 mb
> ROM and it is a hell to synchronize.
>
> I have + - 1000 contacts and he don't get to synchronize nor 600
>
> He/she locks periodically
>
> What do make??? Do I go back to the old?? The microsoft doesn't talk
> anything about this, million in investment and thousands of programmers and
> nothing works well!!!
>
> Fernando
>
> --------
>
>
> Eu Usava um XDA II mini com Windows Mobile 2003 64mg ROM e não tinha estes
> problemas.
>
> Agora resolvi trocar por um Torq P120 com Windows Mobile 2005 com 128 mb ROM
> e está um inferno sincronizar.
>
> Tenho +- 1000 contatos e ele não consegue sincronizar nem 600
>
> Trava periodicamente
>
> O que faço ??? Volto para o antigo ?? A microsoft não fala nada sobre isto,
> milhões em investimento e milhares de programadores e nada funciona bem!!!
>
> "Paco Plus" <> escreveu na mensagem
> news:AFBE3861-73B7-46FD-9F73-...
> > Hi :
> >
> > I recently bought a new Dell Axim X51V PDA. I was a 'more or less' happy
> > user of Dell Axim X5, windows mobile 2002 & activesync 3.8, which few
> > times
> > had some USB problems to synch, but normally worked OK.
> >
> > Now, with the new PDA, I feel like a Beta tester, using a 'beta' version
> > of
> > Windows Mobile 2005 with a beta Activesync 4.1 (or 4.2). I see miles of
> > mails
> > in different world forums, too many people asking why are so many problems
> > to
> > sync through USB, and why Microsoft decided to forget about synch through
> > Wireless wifi, a very fast and confortable method used for so many users.
> > Why
> > Microsoft deleted the Schedule button just for Windows Mobile 2005 (it was
> > very useful with Windows Mobile 2002).
> >
> > My panorama :
> >
> > Two PC's (home and work) equipped with Windows XP, SP2 and the last
> > updates,
> > Activesync 4.1 or 4.2 Beta, correct setup for firewall and antivirus,
> > ethernet services like share deleted.
> >
> > Home PC -> impossible to sync through USB. I usually did through wireless
> > with my old Dell Axim X5... but now I can not because I have activesync
> > 4.1
> > and can not use older versions because they don't work with Windows Mobile
> > 2005... Microsoft just inform you about 'no wireless possible' in few
> > lines
> > losted inside some big web page... So I had to buy a bluetooth-usb
> > adapter.
> > Now I can sync my new Dell Axim X51V through Bluetooth-usb adapter. (no
> > wireless wifi, no USB dock station).
> >
> > Work PC -> I use USB dockstation to sync. No problem with my old Dell Axim
> > X5, but very difficult with Dell Axim X51V.
> > One of every 25 tries (or more) will work. The other 24 tries it will be
> > impossible to sync, with different results.
> >
> > I send you some Ethereal sniffers from USB-Ethernet done while trying to
> > sync Dell Axim X51v PDA with work PC, wishing you'll find why it doesn't
> > work
> > and solve all the problems in version 4.3 as soon as possible. Please
> > contact
> > me if you need these files in a different format.
> >
> > (files not really sended in this forum, if you would like to have them
> > please contact me)
> >
> > Sended Files :
> >
> > 01.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> > changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
> > 02.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows error
> > 'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
> > 03.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows error
> > 'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
> > 04.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes and 20
> > minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll stop.
> > 05.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> > changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
> > 06.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> > changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has updated).
> > The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
> > 07.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes and 20
> > minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll stop.
> > 08.cap - ActiveSync will be 'Connecting' for evermore after entering
> > password, but really is doing nothing.
> > 09.cap - ActiveSync takes a long time in 'Connecting' and finally shows
> > error 'Sync can not be completed succesfully.
> > 10.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> > changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has updated).
> > The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
> >
> > Just once a week Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> > changes-Synchronizing-Connected' and finnally mantains the connection for
> > hours and hours allowing to explore files and install new software. All
> > the
> > other times it's impossible to install nothing because you'll loose the
> > connection while...
> >
> > Please, I understand I'm not alone with all this problems, miles of users
> > are having similar problems because of inestabilities of Activesync, I
> > wish
> > your programmers and designers will be serious and responsibles and try to
> > solve all this urgently.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Paco Plus
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------------
> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the "I
> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> > this
> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and then
> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >
> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...tpc.activesync
>
>
>

Hello Rob:

First of all thanks for your interest. I did try to bypass firewall in one
of both computer but it didn't work.

I'm sure it's not just because a firewall or antivirus is there... because
sometimes (1 every 25) it works, sometimes not, sometimes at half...

Just a lot of bugs an unestabilities in Microsoft software.

Best regards,

Paco

"Rob Borek" wrote:

> On Wed, 10 May 2006 07:35:02 -0700, Paco Plus
> <> wrote:
>
> >Hi :
> >
> >I recently bought a new Dell Axim X51V PDA. I was a 'more or less' happy
> >user of Dell Axim X5, windows mobile 2002 & activesync 3.8, which few times
> >had some USB problems to synch, but normally worked OK.
> >
> >Now, with the new PDA, I feel like a Beta tester, using a 'beta' version of
> >Windows Mobile 2005 with a beta Activesync 4.1 (or 4.2). I see miles of mails
> >in different world forums, too many people asking why are so many problems to
> >sync through USB, and why Microsoft decided to forget about synch through
> >Wireless wifi, a very fast and confortable method used for so many users. Why
> >Microsoft deleted the Schedule button just for Windows Mobile 2005 (it was
> >very useful with Windows Mobile 2002).
> >
> >My panorama :
> >
> >Two PC's (home and work) equipped with Windows XP, SP2 and the last updates,
> >Activesync 4.1 or 4.2 Beta, correct setup for firewall and antivirus,
> >ethernet services like share deleted.
> >
> >Home PC -> impossible to sync through USB. I usually did through wireless
> >with my old Dell Axim X5... but now I can not because I have activesync 4.1
> >and can not use older versions because they don't work with Windows Mobile
> >2005... Microsoft just inform you about 'no wireless possible' in few lines
> >losted inside some big web page... So I had to buy a bluetooth-usb adapter.
> >Now I can sync my new Dell Axim X51V through Bluetooth-usb adapter. (no
> >wireless wifi, no USB dock station).
> >
> >Work PC -> I use USB dockstation to sync. No problem with my old Dell Axim
> >X5, but very difficult with Dell Axim X51V.
> >One of every 25 tries (or more) will work. The other 24 tries it will be
> >impossible to sync, with different results.
>
> Can you try uninstalling the firewall, and see if it connects OK.
>
> --
> Rob Borek
> Want *ONE ON ONE* support? http://www.pocketpcone2one.com
> Please place all replies into the newsgroup so that others can benefit.
>

Nothing, huh? And you're sure about that why? Do you know *anything* about
it? Or are you concluding that, because you aren't willing to actually try
anything suggested here to fix your problem, Microsoft isn't working to
improve ActiveSync?

Paul T.

"Paco Plus" <> wrote in message
news:CD790266-ED3D-4DB3-B715-...
> Hi Fernando:
>
> As I see, thousands of 'happy' users with Windows Mobile 2003 & ActiveSync
> 3.8 are having serious problems with Windows Mobile 2005 & ActiveSync 4.1
> (4.0, 4.2, ...).
>
> Microsoft is doing nothing about that... that's all.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Francesc Mas
>
>
> "Fernando Rodrigues" wrote:
>
>> I Used a XDA II mini with Mobile Windows 2003 64mg ROM and he/she didn't
>> have these problems.
>>
>> Now I decided to change for a Torq P120 with Mobile Windows 2005 with 128
>> mb
>> ROM and it is a hell to synchronize.
>>
>> I have + - 1000 contacts and he don't get to synchronize nor 600
>>
>> He/she locks periodically
>>
>> What do make??? Do I go back to the old?? The microsoft doesn't talk
>> anything about this, million in investment and thousands of programmers
>> and
>> nothing works well!!!
>>
>> Fernando
>>
>> --------
>>
>>
>> Eu Usava um XDA II mini com Windows Mobile 2003 64mg ROM e não tinha
>> estes
>> problemas.
>>
>> Agora resolvi trocar por um Torq P120 com Windows Mobile 2005 com 128 mb
>> ROM
>> e está um inferno sincronizar.
>>
>> Tenho +- 1000 contatos e ele não consegue sincronizar nem 600
>>
>> Trava periodicamente
>>
>> O que faço ??? Volto para o antigo ?? A microsoft não fala nada sobre
>> isto,
>> milhões em investimento e milhares de programadores e nada funciona
>> bem!!!
>>
>> "Paco Plus" <> escreveu na mensagem
>> news:AFBE3861-73B7-46FD-9F73-...
>> > Hi :
>> >
>> > I recently bought a new Dell Axim X51V PDA. I was a 'more or less'
>> > happy
>> > user of Dell Axim X5, windows mobile 2002 & activesync 3.8, which few
>> > times
>> > had some USB problems to synch, but normally worked OK.
>> >
>> > Now, with the new PDA, I feel like a Beta tester, using a 'beta'
>> > version
>> > of
>> > Windows Mobile 2005 with a beta Activesync 4.1 (or 4.2). I see miles of
>> > mails
>> > in different world forums, too many people asking why are so many
>> > problems
>> > to
>> > sync through USB, and why Microsoft decided to forget about synch
>> > through
>> > Wireless wifi, a very fast and confortable method used for so many
>> > users.
>> > Why
>> > Microsoft deleted the Schedule button just for Windows Mobile 2005 (it
>> > was
>> > very useful with Windows Mobile 2002).
>> >
>> > My panorama :
>> >
>> > Two PC's (home and work) equipped with Windows XP, SP2 and the last
>> > updates,
>> > Activesync 4.1 or 4.2 Beta, correct setup for firewall and antivirus,
>> > ethernet services like share deleted.
>> >
>> > Home PC -> impossible to sync through USB. I usually did through
>> > wireless
>> > with my old Dell Axim X5... but now I can not because I have activesync
>> > 4.1
>> > and can not use older versions because they don't work with Windows
>> > Mobile
>> > 2005... Microsoft just inform you about 'no wireless possible' in few
>> > lines
>> > losted inside some big web page... So I had to buy a bluetooth-usb
>> > adapter.
>> > Now I can sync my new Dell Axim X51V through Bluetooth-usb adapter. (no
>> > wireless wifi, no USB dock station).
>> >
>> > Work PC -> I use USB dockstation to sync. No problem with my old Dell
>> > Axim
>> > X5, but very difficult with Dell Axim X51V.
>> > One of every 25 tries (or more) will work. The other 24 tries it will
>> > be
>> > impossible to sync, with different results.
>> >
>> > I send you some Ethereal sniffers from USB-Ethernet done while trying
>> > to
>> > sync Dell Axim X51v PDA with work PC, wishing you'll find why it
>> > doesn't
>> > work
>> > and solve all the problems in version 4.3 as soon as possible. Please
>> > contact
>> > me if you need these files in a different format.
>> >
>> > (files not really sended in this forum, if you would like to have them
>> > please contact me)
>> >
>> > Sended Files :
>> >
>> > 01.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
>> > changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
>> > 02.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows error
>> > 'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
>> > 03.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows error
>> > 'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
>> > 04.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes and
>> > 20
>> > minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll stop.
>> > 05.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
>> > changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
>> > 06.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
>> > changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has
>> > updated).
>> > The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
>> > 07.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes and
>> > 20
>> > minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll stop.
>> > 08.cap - ActiveSync will be 'Connecting' for evermore after entering
>> > password, but really is doing nothing.
>> > 09.cap - ActiveSync takes a long time in 'Connecting' and finally shows
>> > error 'Sync can not be completed succesfully.
>> > 10.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
>> > changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has
>> > updated).
>> > The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
>> >
>> > Just once a week Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
>> > changes-Synchronizing-Connected' and finnally mantains the connection
>> > for
>> > hours and hours allowing to explore files and install new software. All
>> > the
>> > other times it's impossible to install nothing because you'll loose the
>> > connection while...
>> >
>> > Please, I understand I'm not alone with all this problems, miles of
>> > users
>> > are having similar problems because of inestabilities of Activesync, I
>> > wish
>> > your programmers and designers will be serious and responsibles and try
>> > to
>> > solve all this urgently.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Paco Plus
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ----------------
>> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
>> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
>> > "I
>> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
>> > this
>> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
>> > then
>> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >
>> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...tpc.activesync
>>
>>
>>

Hi Paul :

Sorry about my last e-mail.

I'm sure Microsoft ActiveSync team is doing something... but possibly not
enough.

I've tried E_V_E_R_Y suggested possibility, reading a lot of forums,
Microsoft ActivesSync 4.X help, bypassing Firewall, bypassing antivirus,
sniffing IP information with Ethereal to try to undersand what's happening,
reading log files created by activesync (not too much helpfull, really),
looking to system messages saved in Administrator tools, changed to every USB
port in computer, reseting ActiveSync in PC, reseting full PC, reseting full
PDA, juts TCP/IP service in Windows Mobile-based device (switch off file and
printer sharing, microsoft client, ...), praying (oh, my God, oh my God),
dancing to the Devil, ...

I'm Telecomunications engineering, it doesn't mean I know everything about
technological possible problems, but just that I know something more than
'Press start down-left in Windows to see the menu'.

I'm happy to see a lot of answers from Microsoft Activesync team in this
forum, it means you worry about our problems.

As you said (i don't remember where) the problem probably is in the
Networking part, not in the USB. I see, when I loose syncronization (or
simply don't get connected) I can still PING my PDA and obtain ping answer...

I just ask myself :

- Why Activesync 3.X was more estable than 4.X ?
- Why did AS team decided to take out TCP/IP sync (wireless or cabled), and
at the same timek decided to implement a TCP/IP sync over USB ? ¿?¿?
- Why did AS team decided to switch off interesting options like 'Schedule'
button ?

Best regards,

Paco Plus

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" wrote:

> Nothing, huh? And you're sure about that why? Do you know *anything* about
> it? Or are you concluding that, because you aren't willing to actually try
> anything suggested here to fix your problem, Microsoft isn't working to
> improve ActiveSync?
>
> Paul T.
>
> "Paco Plus" <> wrote in message
> news:CD790266-ED3D-4DB3-B715-...
> > Hi Fernando:
> >
> > As I see, thousands of 'happy' users with Windows Mobile 2003 & ActiveSync
> > 3.8 are having serious problems with Windows Mobile 2005 & ActiveSync 4.1
> > (4.0, 4.2, ...).
> >
> > Microsoft is doing nothing about that... that's all.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Francesc Mas
> >
> >
> > "Fernando Rodrigues" wrote:
> >
> >> I Used a XDA II mini with Mobile Windows 2003 64mg ROM and he/she didn't
> >> have these problems.
> >>
> >> Now I decided to change for a Torq P120 with Mobile Windows 2005 with 128
> >> mb
> >> ROM and it is a hell to synchronize.
> >>
> >> I have + - 1000 contacts and he don't get to synchronize nor 600
> >>
> >> He/she locks periodically
> >>
> >> What do make??? Do I go back to the old?? The microsoft doesn't talk
> >> anything about this, million in investment and thousands of programmers
> >> and
> >> nothing works well!!!
> >>
> >> Fernando
> >>
> >> --------
> >>
> >>
> >> Eu Usava um XDA II mini com Windows Mobile 2003 64mg ROM e não tinha
> >> estes
> >> problemas.
> >>
> >> Agora resolvi trocar por um Torq P120 com Windows Mobile 2005 com 128 mb
> >> ROM
> >> e está um inferno sincronizar.
> >>
> >> Tenho +- 1000 contatos e ele não consegue sincronizar nem 600
> >>
> >> Trava periodicamente
> >>
> >> O que faço ??? Volto para o antigo ?? A microsoft não fala nada sobre
> >> isto,
> >> milhões em investimento e milhares de programadores e nada funciona
> >> bem!!!
> >>
> >> "Paco Plus" <> escreveu na mensagem
> >> news:AFBE3861-73B7-46FD-9F73-...
> >> > Hi :
> >> >
> >> > I recently bought a new Dell Axim X51V PDA. I was a 'more or less'
> >> > happy
> >> > user of Dell Axim X5, windows mobile 2002 & activesync 3.8, which few
> >> > times
> >> > had some USB problems to synch, but normally worked OK.
> >> >
> >> > Now, with the new PDA, I feel like a Beta tester, using a 'beta'
> >> > version
> >> > of
> >> > Windows Mobile 2005 with a beta Activesync 4.1 (or 4.2). I see miles of
> >> > mails
> >> > in different world forums, too many people asking why are so many
> >> > problems
> >> > to
> >> > sync through USB, and why Microsoft decided to forget about synch
> >> > through
> >> > Wireless wifi, a very fast and confortable method used for so many
> >> > users.
> >> > Why
> >> > Microsoft deleted the Schedule button just for Windows Mobile 2005 (it
> >> > was
> >> > very useful with Windows Mobile 2002).
> >> >
> >> > My panorama :
> >> >
> >> > Two PC's (home and work) equipped with Windows XP, SP2 and the last
> >> > updates,
> >> > Activesync 4.1 or 4.2 Beta, correct setup for firewall and antivirus,
> >> > ethernet services like share deleted.
> >> >
> >> > Home PC -> impossible to sync through USB. I usually did through
> >> > wireless
> >> > with my old Dell Axim X5... but now I can not because I have activesync
> >> > 4.1
> >> > and can not use older versions because they don't work with Windows
> >> > Mobile
> >> > 2005... Microsoft just inform you about 'no wireless possible' in few
> >> > lines
> >> > losted inside some big web page... So I had to buy a bluetooth-usb
> >> > adapter.
> >> > Now I can sync my new Dell Axim X51V through Bluetooth-usb adapter. (no
> >> > wireless wifi, no USB dock station).
> >> >
> >> > Work PC -> I use USB dockstation to sync. No problem with my old Dell
> >> > Axim
> >> > X5, but very difficult with Dell Axim X51V.
> >> > One of every 25 tries (or more) will work. The other 24 tries it will
> >> > be
> >> > impossible to sync, with different results.
> >> >
> >> > I send you some Ethereal sniffers from USB-Ethernet done while trying
> >> > to
> >> > sync Dell Axim X51v PDA with work PC, wishing you'll find why it
> >> > doesn't
> >> > work
> >> > and solve all the problems in version 4.3 as soon as possible. Please
> >> > contact
> >> > me if you need these files in a different format.
> >> >
> >> > (files not really sended in this forum, if you would like to have them
> >> > please contact me)
> >> >
> >> > Sended Files :
> >> >
> >> > 01.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> > changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
> >> > 02.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows error
> >> > 'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
> >> > 03.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows error
> >> > 'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
> >> > 04.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes and
> >> > 20
> >> > minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll stop.
> >> > 05.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> > changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
> >> > 06.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> > changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has
> >> > updated).
> >> > The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
> >> > 07.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes and
> >> > 20
> >> > minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll stop.
> >> > 08.cap - ActiveSync will be 'Connecting' for evermore after entering
> >> > password, but really is doing nothing.
> >> > 09.cap - ActiveSync takes a long time in 'Connecting' and finally shows
> >> > error 'Sync can not be completed succesfully.
> >> > 10.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> > changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has
> >> > updated).
> >> > The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
> >> >
> >> > Just once a week Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> > changes-Synchronizing-Connected' and finnally mantains the connection
> >> > for
> >> > hours and hours allowing to explore files and install new software. All
> >> > the
> >> > other times it's impossible to install nothing because you'll loose the
> >> > connection while...
> >> >
> >> > Please, I understand I'm not alone with all this problems, miles of
> >> > users
> >> > are having similar problems because of inestabilities of Activesync, I
> >> > wish
> >> > your programmers and designers will be serious and responsibles and try
> >> > to
> >> > solve all this urgently.
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> >
> >> > Paco Plus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----------------
> >> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to the
> >> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click the
> >> > "I
> >> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button, follow
> >> > this
> >> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader and
> >> > then
> >> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...tpc.activesync
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

> - Why Activesync 3.X was more estable than 4.X ?

3.8 was the eighth generation of the same basic software, so it had been
tested, retested, modified to fix problems, eight times. 4.0 had been
tested once, by MS using the set of test machines that MS had, etc. I don't
think that there was even a beta of the 4.0 that was publicly available
(since you had to have a WM5 device to use it, there wasn't a large group of
field people, even MVPs, that had a device to test with), so it's testing
cross-section was very small. There may have been a beta of 4.1, but,
again, the number of people who could actually test this was pretty small.
There is presently a beta of 4.2 in progress and, since the number of people
with WM5 devices is much larger now than six months ago, this has the
potential to actually get valuable input from the field. Use it! Report
problems to astell <at> microsoft.com. Don't expect them to be fixed
instantly, but carefully detail what versions of things you are using, what
hardware you are using it on, and what the results are. If MS doesn't
happen to have the same laptop as you, they'd need to be able to, at least
potentially, buy one, so don't expect overnight changes.

> - Why did AS team decided to take out TCP/IP sync (wireless or cabled),
> and
> at the same timek decided to implement a TCP/IP sync over USB ? ¿?¿?

Security. This has been beat to death on the newsgroup. They targeted
business/enterprise users with WM5, an area not particularly hot on WM
devices previously. My guess is (and this is a *guess*, but I hope a good
one), that enterprise network administrators told MS that they would not
allow these devices/ActiveSync on their systems because there were too many
security holes. MS addressed this by blocking the biggest/hardest-to-fix
one, which was network sync to a desktop PC.

The implementation of TCP/IP as the carrier for all sync traffic allows MS
to add new features that should work in both desktop and Exchange sync more
easily because the sync engine on the device end is the same for both cases.
Long-term, it will result in a more-stable and more-functional product,
which is good for everyone. Short-term, it resulted in a less-stable,
less-functional, although only for a small subset of the total customer
base, product. Those who knew about wireless sync in 3.8 and cared missed
it, but this is a small fraction of total customers.

> - Why did AS team decided to switch off interesting options like
> 'Schedule'
> button ?

Since my last device before the WM5 devices that I've used recently was very
old, I don't know what this was, so I can't speak to it. If you can be more
specific, I might be able to get an answer... At a guess, because it takes
resources to maintain any option that's in the software and their research
told them that very few people were using it and they didn't, therefore,
want to spend their limited resources to support it.

Paul T.


"Paco Plus" <> wrote in message
news:6AFE7958-0BA8-4A30-BE6A-...
> Hi Paul :
>
> Sorry about my last e-mail.
>
> I'm sure Microsoft ActiveSync team is doing something... but possibly not
> enough.
>
> I've tried E_V_E_R_Y suggested possibility, reading a lot of forums,
> Microsoft ActivesSync 4.X help, bypassing Firewall, bypassing antivirus,
> sniffing IP information with Ethereal to try to undersand what's
> happening,
> reading log files created by activesync (not too much helpfull, really),
> looking to system messages saved in Administrator tools, changed to every
> USB
> port in computer, reseting ActiveSync in PC, reseting full PC, reseting
> full
> PDA, juts TCP/IP service in Windows Mobile-based device (switch off file
> and
> printer sharing, microsoft client, ...), praying (oh, my God, oh my God),
> dancing to the Devil, ...
>
> I'm Telecomunications engineering, it doesn't mean I know everything about
> technological possible problems, but just that I know something more than
> 'Press start down-left in Windows to see the menu'.
>
> I'm happy to see a lot of answers from Microsoft Activesync team in this
> forum, it means you worry about our problems.
>
> As you said (i don't remember where) the problem probably is in the
> Networking part, not in the USB. I see, when I loose syncronization (or
> simply don't get connected) I can still PING my PDA and obtain ping
> answer...
>
> I just ask myself :
>
> - Why Activesync 3.X was more estable than 4.X ?
> - Why did AS team decided to take out TCP/IP sync (wireless or cabled),
> and
> at the same timek decided to implement a TCP/IP sync over USB ? ¿?¿?
> - Why did AS team decided to switch off interesting options like
> 'Schedule'
> button ?
>
> Best regards,
>
> Paco Plus
>
> "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" wrote:
>
>> Nothing, huh? And you're sure about that why? Do you know *anything*
>> about
>> it? Or are you concluding that, because you aren't willing to actually
>> try
>> anything suggested here to fix your problem, Microsoft isn't working to
>> improve ActiveSync?
>>
>> Paul T.
>>
>> "Paco Plus" <> wrote in message
>> news:CD790266-ED3D-4DB3-B715-...
>> > Hi Fernando:
>> >
>> > As I see, thousands of 'happy' users with Windows Mobile 2003 &
>> > ActiveSync
>> > 3.8 are having serious problems with Windows Mobile 2005 & ActiveSync
>> > 4.1
>> > (4.0, 4.2, ...).
>> >
>> > Microsoft is doing nothing about that... that's all.
>> >
>> > Best regards,
>> >
>> > Francesc Mas
>> >
>> >
>> > "Fernando Rodrigues" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I Used a XDA II mini with Mobile Windows 2003 64mg ROM and he/she
>> >> didn't
>> >> have these problems.
>> >>
>> >> Now I decided to change for a Torq P120 with Mobile Windows 2005 with
>> >> 128
>> >> mb
>> >> ROM and it is a hell to synchronize.
>> >>
>> >> I have + - 1000 contacts and he don't get to synchronize nor 600
>> >>
>> >> He/she locks periodically
>> >>
>> >> What do make??? Do I go back to the old?? The microsoft doesn't talk
>> >> anything about this, million in investment and thousands of
>> >> programmers
>> >> and
>> >> nothing works well!!!
>> >>
>> >> Fernando
>> >>
>> >> --------
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Eu Usava um XDA II mini com Windows Mobile 2003 64mg ROM e não tinha
>> >> estes
>> >> problemas.
>> >>
>> >> Agora resolvi trocar por um Torq P120 com Windows Mobile 2005 com 128
>> >> mb
>> >> ROM
>> >> e está um inferno sincronizar.
>> >>
>> >> Tenho +- 1000 contatos e ele não consegue sincronizar nem 600
>> >>
>> >> Trava periodicamente
>> >>
>> >> O que faço ??? Volto para o antigo ?? A microsoft não fala nada sobre
>> >> isto,
>> >> milhões em investimento e milhares de programadores e nada funciona
>> >> bem!!!
>> >>
>> >> "Paco Plus" <> escreveu na mensagem
>> >> news:AFBE3861-73B7-46FD-9F73-...
>> >> > Hi :
>> >> >
>> >> > I recently bought a new Dell Axim X51V PDA. I was a 'more or less'
>> >> > happy
>> >> > user of Dell Axim X5, windows mobile 2002 & activesync 3.8, which
>> >> > few
>> >> > times
>> >> > had some USB problems to synch, but normally worked OK.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now, with the new PDA, I feel like a Beta tester, using a 'beta'
>> >> > version
>> >> > of
>> >> > Windows Mobile 2005 with a beta Activesync 4.1 (or 4.2). I see miles
>> >> > of
>> >> > mails
>> >> > in different world forums, too many people asking why are so many
>> >> > problems
>> >> > to
>> >> > sync through USB, and why Microsoft decided to forget about synch
>> >> > through
>> >> > Wireless wifi, a very fast and confortable method used for so many
>> >> > users.
>> >> > Why
>> >> > Microsoft deleted the Schedule button just for Windows Mobile 2005
>> >> > (it
>> >> > was
>> >> > very useful with Windows Mobile 2002).
>> >> >
>> >> > My panorama :
>> >> >
>> >> > Two PC's (home and work) equipped with Windows XP, SP2 and the last
>> >> > updates,
>> >> > Activesync 4.1 or 4.2 Beta, correct setup for firewall and
>> >> > antivirus,
>> >> > ethernet services like share deleted.
>> >> >
>> >> > Home PC -> impossible to sync through USB. I usually did through
>> >> > wireless
>> >> > with my old Dell Axim X5... but now I can not because I have
>> >> > activesync
>> >> > 4.1
>> >> > and can not use older versions because they don't work with Windows
>> >> > Mobile
>> >> > 2005... Microsoft just inform you about 'no wireless possible' in
>> >> > few
>> >> > lines
>> >> > losted inside some big web page... So I had to buy a bluetooth-usb
>> >> > adapter.
>> >> > Now I can sync my new Dell Axim X51V through Bluetooth-usb adapter.
>> >> > (no
>> >> > wireless wifi, no USB dock station).
>> >> >
>> >> > Work PC -> I use USB dockstation to sync. No problem with my old
>> >> > Dell
>> >> > Axim
>> >> > X5, but very difficult with Dell Axim X51V.
>> >> > One of every 25 tries (or more) will work. The other 24 tries it
>> >> > will
>> >> > be
>> >> > impossible to sync, with different results.
>> >> >
>> >> > I send you some Ethereal sniffers from USB-Ethernet done while
>> >> > trying
>> >> > to
>> >> > sync Dell Axim X51v PDA with work PC, wishing you'll find why it
>> >> > doesn't
>> >> > work
>> >> > and solve all the problems in version 4.3 as soon as possible.
>> >> > Please
>> >> > contact
>> >> > me if you need these files in a different format.
>> >> >
>> >> > (files not really sended in this forum, if you would like to have
>> >> > them
>> >> > please contact me)
>> >> >
>> >> > Sended Files :
>> >> >
>> >> > 01.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
>> >> > changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
>> >> > 02.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows
>> >> > error
>> >> > 'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
>> >> > 03.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows
>> >> > error
>> >> > 'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
>> >> > 04.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes
>> >> > and
>> >> > 20
>> >> > minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll
>> >> > stop.
>> >> > 05.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
>> >> > changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
>> >> > 06.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
>> >> > changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has
>> >> > updated).
>> >> > The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
>> >> > 07.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes
>> >> > and
>> >> > 20
>> >> > minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll
>> >> > stop.
>> >> > 08.cap - ActiveSync will be 'Connecting' for evermore after entering
>> >> > password, but really is doing nothing.
>> >> > 09.cap - ActiveSync takes a long time in 'Connecting' and finally
>> >> > shows
>> >> > error 'Sync can not be completed succesfully.
>> >> > 10.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
>> >> > changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has
>> >> > updated).
>> >> > The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
>> >> >
>> >> > Just once a week Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
>> >> > changes-Synchronizing-Connected' and finnally mantains the
>> >> > connection
>> >> > for
>> >> > hours and hours allowing to explore files and install new software.
>> >> > All
>> >> > the
>> >> > other times it's impossible to install nothing because you'll loose
>> >> > the
>> >> > connection while...
>> >> >
>> >> > Please, I understand I'm not alone with all this problems, miles of
>> >> > users
>> >> > are having similar problems because of inestabilities of Activesync,
>> >> > I
>> >> > wish
>> >> > your programmers and designers will be serious and responsibles and
>> >> > try
>> >> > to
>> >> > solve all this urgently.
>> >> >
>> >> > Best regards,
>> >> >
>> >> > Paco Plus
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----------------
>> >> > This post is a suggestion for Microsoft, and Microsoft responds to
>> >> > the
>> >> > suggestions with the most votes. To vote for this suggestion, click
>> >> > the
>> >> > "I
>> >> > Agree" button in the message pane. If you do not see the button,
>> >> > follow
>> >> > this
>> >> > link to open the suggestion in the Microsoft Web-based Newsreader
>> >> > and
>> >> > then
>> >> > click "I Agree" in the message pane.
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.microsoft.com/communities...tpc.activesync
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

Thanks a lot for your time and answers, Paul.

I wish problems will be resolved as soon as possible, and Microsoft will
take users seriously, assigning more efforts to this relative small product.

Best regards,

Paco Plus

"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" wrote:

> > - Why Activesync 3.X was more estable than 4.X ?
>
> 3.8 was the eighth generation of the same basic software, so it had been
> tested, retested, modified to fix problems, eight times. 4.0 had been
> tested once, by MS using the set of test machines that MS had, etc. I don't
> think that there was even a beta of the 4.0 that was publicly available
> (since you had to have a WM5 device to use it, there wasn't a large group of
> field people, even MVPs, that had a device to test with), so it's testing
> cross-section was very small. There may have been a beta of 4.1, but,
> again, the number of people who could actually test this was pretty small.
> There is presently a beta of 4.2 in progress and, since the number of people
> with WM5 devices is much larger now than six months ago, this has the
> potential to actually get valuable input from the field. Use it! Report
> problems to astell <at> microsoft.com. Don't expect them to be fixed
> instantly, but carefully detail what versions of things you are using, what
> hardware you are using it on, and what the results are. If MS doesn't
> happen to have the same laptop as you, they'd need to be able to, at least
> potentially, buy one, so don't expect overnight changes.
>
> > - Why did AS team decided to take out TCP/IP sync (wireless or cabled),
> > and
> > at the same timek decided to implement a TCP/IP sync over USB ? ¿?¿?
>
> Security. This has been beat to death on the newsgroup. They targeted
> business/enterprise users with WM5, an area not particularly hot on WM
> devices previously. My guess is (and this is a *guess*, but I hope a good
> one), that enterprise network administrators told MS that they would not
> allow these devices/ActiveSync on their systems because there were too many
> security holes. MS addressed this by blocking the biggest/hardest-to-fix
> one, which was network sync to a desktop PC.
>
> The implementation of TCP/IP as the carrier for all sync traffic allows MS
> to add new features that should work in both desktop and Exchange sync more
> easily because the sync engine on the device end is the same for both cases.
> Long-term, it will result in a more-stable and more-functional product,
> which is good for everyone. Short-term, it resulted in a less-stable,
> less-functional, although only for a small subset of the total customer
> base, product. Those who knew about wireless sync in 3.8 and cared missed
> it, but this is a small fraction of total customers.
>
> > - Why did AS team decided to switch off interesting options like
> > 'Schedule'
> > button ?
>
> Since my last device before the WM5 devices that I've used recently was very
> old, I don't know what this was, so I can't speak to it. If you can be more
> specific, I might be able to get an answer... At a guess, because it takes
> resources to maintain any option that's in the software and their research
> told them that very few people were using it and they didn't, therefore,
> want to spend their limited resources to support it.
>
> Paul T.
>
>
> "Paco Plus" <> wrote in message
> news:6AFE7958-0BA8-4A30-BE6A-...
> > Hi Paul :
> >
> > Sorry about my last e-mail.
> >
> > I'm sure Microsoft ActiveSync team is doing something... but possibly not
> > enough.
> >
> > I've tried E_V_E_R_Y suggested possibility, reading a lot of forums,
> > Microsoft ActivesSync 4.X help, bypassing Firewall, bypassing antivirus,
> > sniffing IP information with Ethereal to try to undersand what's
> > happening,
> > reading log files created by activesync (not too much helpfull, really),
> > looking to system messages saved in Administrator tools, changed to every
> > USB
> > port in computer, reseting ActiveSync in PC, reseting full PC, reseting
> > full
> > PDA, juts TCP/IP service in Windows Mobile-based device (switch off file
> > and
> > printer sharing, microsoft client, ...), praying (oh, my God, oh my God),
> > dancing to the Devil, ...
> >
> > I'm Telecomunications engineering, it doesn't mean I know everything about
> > technological possible problems, but just that I know something more than
> > 'Press start down-left in Windows to see the menu'.
> >
> > I'm happy to see a lot of answers from Microsoft Activesync team in this
> > forum, it means you worry about our problems.
> >
> > As you said (i don't remember where) the problem probably is in the
> > Networking part, not in the USB. I see, when I loose syncronization (or
> > simply don't get connected) I can still PING my PDA and obtain ping
> > answer...
> >
> > I just ask myself :
> >
> > - Why Activesync 3.X was more estable than 4.X ?
> > - Why did AS team decided to take out TCP/IP sync (wireless or cabled),
> > and
> > at the same timek decided to implement a TCP/IP sync over USB ? ¿?¿?
> > - Why did AS team decided to switch off interesting options like
> > 'Schedule'
> > button ?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Paco Plus
> >
> > "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Nothing, huh? And you're sure about that why? Do you know *anything*
> >> about
> >> it? Or are you concluding that, because you aren't willing to actually
> >> try
> >> anything suggested here to fix your problem, Microsoft isn't working to
> >> improve ActiveSync?
> >>
> >> Paul T.
> >>
> >> "Paco Plus" <> wrote in message
> >> news:CD790266-ED3D-4DB3-B715-...
> >> > Hi Fernando:
> >> >
> >> > As I see, thousands of 'happy' users with Windows Mobile 2003 &
> >> > ActiveSync
> >> > 3.8 are having serious problems with Windows Mobile 2005 & ActiveSync
> >> > 4.1
> >> > (4.0, 4.2, ...).
> >> >
> >> > Microsoft is doing nothing about that... that's all.
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> >
> >> > Francesc Mas
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Fernando Rodrigues" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I Used a XDA II mini with Mobile Windows 2003 64mg ROM and he/she
> >> >> didn't
> >> >> have these problems.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now I decided to change for a Torq P120 with Mobile Windows 2005 with
> >> >> 128
> >> >> mb
> >> >> ROM and it is a hell to synchronize.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have + - 1000 contacts and he don't get to synchronize nor 600
> >> >>
> >> >> He/she locks periodically
> >> >>
> >> >> What do make??? Do I go back to the old?? The microsoft doesn't talk
> >> >> anything about this, million in investment and thousands of
> >> >> programmers
> >> >> and
> >> >> nothing works well!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Fernando
> >> >>
> >> >> --------
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Eu Usava um XDA II mini com Windows Mobile 2003 64mg ROM e não tinha
> >> >> estes
> >> >> problemas.
> >> >>
> >> >> Agora resolvi trocar por um Torq P120 com Windows Mobile 2005 com 128
> >> >> mb
> >> >> ROM
> >> >> e está um inferno sincronizar.
> >> >>
> >> >> Tenho +- 1000 contatos e ele não consegue sincronizar nem 600
> >> >>
> >> >> Trava periodicamente
> >> >>
> >> >> O que faço ??? Volto para o antigo ?? A microsoft não fala nada sobre
> >> >> isto,
> >> >> milhões em investimento e milhares de programadores e nada funciona
> >> >> bem!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> "Paco Plus" <> escreveu na mensagem
> >> >> news:AFBE3861-73B7-46FD-9F73-...
> >> >> > Hi :
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I recently bought a new Dell Axim X51V PDA. I was a 'more or less'
> >> >> > happy
> >> >> > user of Dell Axim X5, windows mobile 2002 & activesync 3.8, which
> >> >> > few
> >> >> > times
> >> >> > had some USB problems to synch, but normally worked OK.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now, with the new PDA, I feel like a Beta tester, using a 'beta'
> >> >> > version
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > Windows Mobile 2005 with a beta Activesync 4.1 (or 4.2). I see miles
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > mails
> >> >> > in different world forums, too many people asking why are so many
> >> >> > problems
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > sync through USB, and why Microsoft decided to forget about synch
> >> >> > through
> >> >> > Wireless wifi, a very fast and confortable method used for so many
> >> >> > users.
> >> >> > Why
> >> >> > Microsoft deleted the Schedule button just for Windows Mobile 2005
> >> >> > (it
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > very useful with Windows Mobile 2002).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My panorama :
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Two PC's (home and work) equipped with Windows XP, SP2 and the last
> >> >> > updates,
> >> >> > Activesync 4.1 or 4.2 Beta, correct setup for firewall and
> >> >> > antivirus,
> >> >> > ethernet services like share deleted.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Home PC -> impossible to sync through USB. I usually did through
> >> >> > wireless
> >> >> > with my old Dell Axim X5... but now I can not because I have
> >> >> > activesync
> >> >> > 4.1
> >> >> > and can not use older versions because they don't work with Windows
> >> >> > Mobile
> >> >> > 2005... Microsoft just inform you about 'no wireless possible' in
> >> >> > few
> >> >> > lines
> >> >> > losted inside some big web page... So I had to buy a bluetooth-usb
> >> >> > adapter.
> >> >> > Now I can sync my new Dell Axim X51V through Bluetooth-usb adapter.
> >> >> > (no
> >> >> > wireless wifi, no USB dock station).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Work PC -> I use USB dockstation to sync. No problem with my old
> >> >> > Dell
> >> >> > Axim
> >> >> > X5, but very difficult with Dell Axim X51V.
> >> >> > One of every 25 tries (or more) will work. The other 24 tries it
> >> >> > will
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > impossible to sync, with different results.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I send you some Ethereal sniffers from USB-Ethernet done while
> >> >> > trying
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > sync Dell Axim X51v PDA with work PC, wishing you'll find why it
> >> >> > doesn't
> >> >> > work
> >> >> > and solve all the problems in version 4.3 as soon as possible.
> >> >> > Please
> >> >> > contact
> >> >> > me if you need these files in a different format.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > (files not really sended in this forum, if you would like to have
> >> >> > them
> >> >> > please contact me)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sended Files :
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 01.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> >> > changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
> >> >> > 02.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows
> >> >> > error
> >> >> > 'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
> >> >> > 03.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows
> >> >> > error
> >> >> > 'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
> >> >> > 04.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > 20
> >> >> > minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll
> >> >> > stop.
> >> >> > 05.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> >> > changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
> >> >> > 06.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> >> > changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has
> >> >> > updated).
> >> >> > The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
> >> >> > 07.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > 20
> >> >> > minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll
> >> >> > stop.
> >> >> > 08.cap - ActiveSync will be 'Connecting' for evermore after entering
> >> >> > password, but really is doing nothing.
> >> >> > 09.cap - ActiveSync takes a long time in 'Connecting' and finally
> >> >> > shows
> >> >> > error 'Sync can not be completed succesfully.
> >> >> > 10.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> >> > changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has
> >> >> > updated).
> >> >> > The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Just once a week Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> >> > changes-Synchronizing-Connected' and finnally mantains the
> >> >> > connection
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > hours and hours allowing to explore files and install new software.
> >> >> > All
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > other times it's impossible to install nothing because you'll loose
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > connection while...
> >> >> >

Hi again Paul !

Is there any progress in Activesync 4.2 beta ?

I'm still having the same inestabibilities I had the first day, one month ago.

Any solution from Microsoft ? Do they need some more resources, programmers
? Inestabilities and bugs resolved ?

Ok... let's start thinking about buying Intellisync...

Yes... they have probably less programmers than Microsoft but I think their
software is stable and works better than Activesync (as I see in some forums).

Possibly they take seriously about their product.

Best regards,

Paco Plus




"Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" wrote:

> > - Why Activesync 3.X was more estable than 4.X ?
>
> 3.8 was the eighth generation of the same basic software, so it had been
> tested, retested, modified to fix problems, eight times. 4.0 had been
> tested once, by MS using the set of test machines that MS had, etc. I don't
> think that there was even a beta of the 4.0 that was publicly available
> (since you had to have a WM5 device to use it, there wasn't a large group of
> field people, even MVPs, that had a device to test with), so it's testing
> cross-section was very small. There may have been a beta of 4.1, but,
> again, the number of people who could actually test this was pretty small.
> There is presently a beta of 4.2 in progress and, since the number of people
> with WM5 devices is much larger now than six months ago, this has the
> potential to actually get valuable input from the field. Use it! Report
> problems to astell <at> microsoft.com. Don't expect them to be fixed
> instantly, but carefully detail what versions of things you are using, what
> hardware you are using it on, and what the results are. If MS doesn't
> happen to have the same laptop as you, they'd need to be able to, at least
> potentially, buy one, so don't expect overnight changes.
>
> > - Why did AS team decided to take out TCP/IP sync (wireless or cabled),
> > and
> > at the same timek decided to implement a TCP/IP sync over USB ? ¿?¿?
>
> Security. This has been beat to death on the newsgroup. They targeted
> business/enterprise users with WM5, an area not particularly hot on WM
> devices previously. My guess is (and this is a *guess*, but I hope a good
> one), that enterprise network administrators told MS that they would not
> allow these devices/ActiveSync on their systems because there were too many
> security holes. MS addressed this by blocking the biggest/hardest-to-fix
> one, which was network sync to a desktop PC.
>
> The implementation of TCP/IP as the carrier for all sync traffic allows MS
> to add new features that should work in both desktop and Exchange sync more
> easily because the sync engine on the device end is the same for both cases.
> Long-term, it will result in a more-stable and more-functional product,
> which is good for everyone. Short-term, it resulted in a less-stable,
> less-functional, although only for a small subset of the total customer
> base, product. Those who knew about wireless sync in 3.8 and cared missed
> it, but this is a small fraction of total customers.
>
> > - Why did AS team decided to switch off interesting options like
> > 'Schedule'
> > button ?
>
> Since my last device before the WM5 devices that I've used recently was very
> old, I don't know what this was, so I can't speak to it. If you can be more
> specific, I might be able to get an answer... At a guess, because it takes
> resources to maintain any option that's in the software and their research
> told them that very few people were using it and they didn't, therefore,
> want to spend their limited resources to support it.
>
> Paul T.
>
>
> "Paco Plus" <> wrote in message
> news:6AFE7958-0BA8-4A30-BE6A-...
> > Hi Paul :
> >
> > Sorry about my last e-mail.
> >
> > I'm sure Microsoft ActiveSync team is doing something... but possibly not
> > enough.
> >
> > I've tried E_V_E_R_Y suggested possibility, reading a lot of forums,
> > Microsoft ActivesSync 4.X help, bypassing Firewall, bypassing antivirus,
> > sniffing IP information with Ethereal to try to undersand what's
> > happening,
> > reading log files created by activesync (not too much helpfull, really),
> > looking to system messages saved in Administrator tools, changed to every
> > USB
> > port in computer, reseting ActiveSync in PC, reseting full PC, reseting
> > full
> > PDA, juts TCP/IP service in Windows Mobile-based device (switch off file
> > and
> > printer sharing, microsoft client, ...), praying (oh, my God, oh my God),
> > dancing to the Devil, ...
> >
> > I'm Telecomunications engineering, it doesn't mean I know everything about
> > technological possible problems, but just that I know something more than
> > 'Press start down-left in Windows to see the menu'.
> >
> > I'm happy to see a lot of answers from Microsoft Activesync team in this
> > forum, it means you worry about our problems.
> >
> > As you said (i don't remember where) the problem probably is in the
> > Networking part, not in the USB. I see, when I loose syncronization (or
> > simply don't get connected) I can still PING my PDA and obtain ping
> > answer...
> >
> > I just ask myself :
> >
> > - Why Activesync 3.X was more estable than 4.X ?
> > - Why did AS team decided to take out TCP/IP sync (wireless or cabled),
> > and
> > at the same timek decided to implement a TCP/IP sync over USB ? ¿?¿?
> > - Why did AS team decided to switch off interesting options like
> > 'Schedule'
> > button ?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Paco Plus
> >
> > "Paul G. Tobey [eMVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Nothing, huh? And you're sure about that why? Do you know *anything*
> >> about
> >> it? Or are you concluding that, because you aren't willing to actually
> >> try
> >> anything suggested here to fix your problem, Microsoft isn't working to
> >> improve ActiveSync?
> >>
> >> Paul T.
> >>
> >> "Paco Plus" <> wrote in message
> >> news:CD790266-ED3D-4DB3-B715-...
> >> > Hi Fernando:
> >> >
> >> > As I see, thousands of 'happy' users with Windows Mobile 2003 &
> >> > ActiveSync
> >> > 3.8 are having serious problems with Windows Mobile 2005 & ActiveSync
> >> > 4.1
> >> > (4.0, 4.2, ...).
> >> >
> >> > Microsoft is doing nothing about that... that's all.
> >> >
> >> > Best regards,
> >> >
> >> > Francesc Mas
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Fernando Rodrigues" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I Used a XDA II mini with Mobile Windows 2003 64mg ROM and he/she
> >> >> didn't
> >> >> have these problems.
> >> >>
> >> >> Now I decided to change for a Torq P120 with Mobile Windows 2005 with
> >> >> 128
> >> >> mb
> >> >> ROM and it is a hell to synchronize.
> >> >>
> >> >> I have + - 1000 contacts and he don't get to synchronize nor 600
> >> >>
> >> >> He/she locks periodically
> >> >>
> >> >> What do make??? Do I go back to the old?? The microsoft doesn't talk
> >> >> anything about this, million in investment and thousands of
> >> >> programmers
> >> >> and
> >> >> nothing works well!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Fernando
> >> >>
> >> >> --------
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Eu Usava um XDA II mini com Windows Mobile 2003 64mg ROM e não tinha
> >> >> estes
> >> >> problemas.
> >> >>
> >> >> Agora resolvi trocar por um Torq P120 com Windows Mobile 2005 com 128
> >> >> mb
> >> >> ROM
> >> >> e está um inferno sincronizar.
> >> >>
> >> >> Tenho +- 1000 contatos e ele não consegue sincronizar nem 600
> >> >>
> >> >> Trava periodicamente
> >> >>
> >> >> O que faço ??? Volto para o antigo ?? A microsoft não fala nada sobre
> >> >> isto,
> >> >> milhões em investimento e milhares de programadores e nada funciona
> >> >> bem!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> "Paco Plus" <> escreveu na mensagem
> >> >> news:AFBE3861-73B7-46FD-9F73-...
> >> >> > Hi :
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I recently bought a new Dell Axim X51V PDA. I was a 'more or less'
> >> >> > happy
> >> >> > user of Dell Axim X5, windows mobile 2002 & activesync 3.8, which
> >> >> > few
> >> >> > times
> >> >> > had some USB problems to synch, but normally worked OK.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Now, with the new PDA, I feel like a Beta tester, using a 'beta'
> >> >> > version
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > Windows Mobile 2005 with a beta Activesync 4.1 (or 4.2). I see miles
> >> >> > of
> >> >> > mails
> >> >> > in different world forums, too many people asking why are so many
> >> >> > problems
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > sync through USB, and why Microsoft decided to forget about synch
> >> >> > through
> >> >> > Wireless wifi, a very fast and confortable method used for so many
> >> >> > users.
> >> >> > Why
> >> >> > Microsoft deleted the Schedule button just for Windows Mobile 2005
> >> >> > (it
> >> >> > was
> >> >> > very useful with Windows Mobile 2002).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > My panorama :
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Two PC's (home and work) equipped with Windows XP, SP2 and the last
> >> >> > updates,
> >> >> > Activesync 4.1 or 4.2 Beta, correct setup for firewall and
> >> >> > antivirus,
> >> >> > ethernet services like share deleted.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Home PC -> impossible to sync through USB. I usually did through
> >> >> > wireless
> >> >> > with my old Dell Axim X5... but now I can not because I have
> >> >> > activesync
> >> >> > 4.1
> >> >> > and can not use older versions because they don't work with Windows
> >> >> > Mobile
> >> >> > 2005... Microsoft just inform you about 'no wireless possible' in
> >> >> > few
> >> >> > lines
> >> >> > losted inside some big web page... So I had to buy a bluetooth-usb
> >> >> > adapter.
> >> >> > Now I can sync my new Dell Axim X51V through Bluetooth-usb adapter.
> >> >> > (no
> >> >> > wireless wifi, no USB dock station).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Work PC -> I use USB dockstation to sync. No problem with my old
> >> >> > Dell
> >> >> > Axim
> >> >> > X5, but very difficult with Dell Axim X51V.
> >> >> > One of every 25 tries (or more) will work. The other 24 tries it
> >> >> > will
> >> >> > be
> >> >> > impossible to sync, with different results.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I send you some Ethereal sniffers from USB-Ethernet done while
> >> >> > trying
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > sync Dell Axim X51v PDA with work PC, wishing you'll find why it
> >> >> > doesn't
> >> >> > work
> >> >> > and solve all the problems in version 4.3 as soon as possible.
> >> >> > Please
> >> >> > contact
> >> >> > me if you need these files in a different format.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > (files not really sended in this forum, if you would like to have
> >> >> > them
> >> >> > please contact me)
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Sended Files :
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 01.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> >> > changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
> >> >> > 02.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows
> >> >> > error
> >> >> > 'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
> >> >> > 03.cap - Activesync does connecting and after a long time shows
> >> >> > error
> >> >> > 'Critical communications... try reseting PDA...'
> >> >> > 04.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > 20
> >> >> > minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll
> >> >> > stop.
> >> >> > 05.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> >> > changes-Synchronizing' but stops at half done, showing disconnected.
> >> >> > 06.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> >> > changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has
> >> >> > updated).
> >> >> > The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
> >> >> > 07.cap - ActiveSync does Connecting-Connected-Looking for changes
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > 20
> >> >> > minuts later the message will be 'Looking for changes' so we'll
> >> >> > stop.
> >> >> > 08.cap - ActiveSync will be 'Connecting' for evermore after entering
> >> >> > password, but really is doing nothing.
> >> >> > 09.cap - ActiveSync takes a long time in 'Connecting' and finally
> >> >> > shows
> >> >> > error 'Sync can not be completed succesfully.
> >> >> > 10.cap - Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> >> > changes-Synchronizing' and finally Connected (so information has
> >> >> > updated).
> >> >> > The connection will die in aprox. 2 minutes anyway.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Just once a week Activesync does 'Connecting-Connected-Looking for
> >> >> > changes-Synchronizing-Connected' and finnally mantains the
> >> >> > connection
> >> >> > for
> >> >> > hours and hours allowing to explore files and install new software.
> >> >> > All
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > other times it's impossible to install nothing because you'll loose
> >> >> > the
> >> >> > connection while...
> >> >> >