RDP reboot request - no reboot - RDP locked

Hi

I again have the following situation:

- Connecting SBS2003 R2 via RDP from a W7 x64 to install WSUS updates
- Reboot is requested
- Initiating reboot
- Looks like it starts rebooting ... closing RDP

Now, no new RDP session is possible to this SBS.
Access to OWA and stuff is still possible.

Next day on the SBS:
- Console login absolutely normal
- It did not reboot
- No suspicious entries in the logs
However, RDP access is still not possible.

Can I regain RDP access without rebooting the SBS?
How do I prevent this to happen in the first place? I always have to
walk up to the server if this happens.

Thanks
Franz

In article <>,
says...
> - Connecting SBS2003 R2 via RDP from a W7 x64 to install WSUS updates
> - Reboot is requested
> - Initiating reboot
> - Looks like it starts rebooting ... closing RDP
>

I never reboot a SBS server via RD connection, even with the /admin or
/console option in the RD startup.

Time and time again I was screwed by doing admin functions from a RD
session and have just accepted that I will need to use VNC to manage all
servers - now if we could just get VNC to work as smoothly under 08.

I also created a batch file to restart the server more quickly - copied
the details from somewhere on the web (credit to the person that created
it).

RESTART.BAT
:
net stop MSExchangeES /y
net stop MSExchangeIS /y
net stop MSExchangeMTA /y
net stop MSExchangeSA /y
net stop WinHttpAutoProxySvc /y
shutdown /f /r /t 5

If you do this, it will do a much quicker restart and it also works from
RD sessions MOST times.

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voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.
Trust yourself.
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Leythos schrieb:
> In article <>,
> says...
>> - Connecting SBS2003 R2 via RDP from a W7 x64 to install WSUS updates
>> - Reboot is requested
>> - Initiating reboot
>> - Looks like it starts rebooting ... closing RDP
>>
>
> I never reboot a SBS server via RD connection, even with the /admin or
> /console option in the RD startup.
>
> Time and time again I was screwed by doing admin functions from a RD
> session and have just accepted that I will need to use VNC to manage all
> servers - now if we could just get VNC to work as smoothly under 08.
>
> I also created a batch file to restart the server more quickly - copied
> the details from somewhere on the web (credit to the person that created
> it).
>
> RESTART.BAT
> :
> net stop MSExchangeES /y
> net stop MSExchangeIS /y
> net stop MSExchangeMTA /y
> net stop MSExchangeSA /y
> net stop WinHttpAutoProxySvc /y
> shutdown /f /r /t 5
>
> If you do this, it will do a much quicker restart and it also works from
> RD sessions MOST times.
>
Thanks a lot. I will try this tonight.
Franz

Don't know if this helps much with the reboot issue, but I've always made a
habit of refusing reboot requests that pop-up, even if I want to reboot. I
always decline on screen and then once I am ready (I might stop the Exchange
store as suggested) I think click into the Start Menu - > Security options
to force the reboot. I find that this is much more reliable to actually
force the machine to reset.

Some time back (I'm thinking the Wild West days of patch management circa
2002) I also wrote a batch script that scheduled a shutdown request 5
minutes ahead in addition to the log off and reboot request I was doing.
There was a scriptable call you could make that acted at System level (not
user) and hence was not going to be denied like all these stupid hybernation
"but I don't want to shutdown cry baby apps and devices" seem to hang on
with. I've generally found the Security screen based shutdown usually works.

- Jeff Middleton SBS-MVP




"Franz Leu" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Leythos schrieb:
>> In article <>,
>> says...
>>> - Connecting SBS2003 R2 via RDP from a W7 x64 to install WSUS updates
>>> - Reboot is requested
>>> - Initiating reboot
>>> - Looks like it starts rebooting ... closing RDP
>>>
>>
>> I never reboot a SBS server via RD connection, even with the /admin or
>> /console option in the RD startup.
>>
>> Time and time again I was screwed by doing admin functions from a RD
>> session and have just accepted that I will need to use VNC to manage all
>> servers - now if we could just get VNC to work as smoothly under 08.
>>
>> I also created a batch file to restart the server more quickly - copied
>> the details from somewhere on the web (credit to the person that created
>> it).
>>
>> RESTART.BAT
>> :
>> net stop MSExchangeES /y
>> net stop MSExchangeIS /y
>> net stop MSExchangeMTA /y
>> net stop MSExchangeSA /y
>> net stop WinHttpAutoProxySvc /y
>> shutdown /f /r /t 5
>>
>> If you do this, it will do a much quicker restart and it also works from
>> RD sessions MOST times.
>>
> Thanks a lot. I will try this tonight.
> Franz

FWIW, I've got 5 or 6 servers running various flavors of WS03 and I've seen
this on all of them - SBS 2003, WS03 member servers, 64-bit Storage Server.
And while I've seen it mostly when clicking pop-ups as you describe (and
especially the "restart now" button at the end of patch installs), I've also
had it happen from the Start menu as well. The only thing I've found
totally reliable (at least so far) is Start -> Run -> Shutdown -i. I'm sure
a batch file would work too, and I've heard of people scheduling a shutdown
script before attempting a remote reboot - if the server reboots, they
cancel the scheduled event, but if not, they'll regain access after the
scheduled job runs.

I added our office manager to "Print Operators" with the side benefit that
he can reboot servers if I'm not here.


"Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Don't know if this helps much with the reboot issue, but I've always made
> a habit of refusing reboot requests that pop-up, even if I want to reboot.
> I always decline on screen and then once I am ready (I might stop the
> Exchange store as suggested) I think click into the Start Menu - >
> Security options to force the reboot. I find that this is much more
> reliable to actually force the machine to reset.
>
> Some time back (I'm thinking the Wild West days of patch management circa
> 2002) I also wrote a batch script that scheduled a shutdown request 5
> minutes ahead in addition to the log off and reboot request I was doing.
> There was a scriptable call you could make that acted at System level (not
> user) and hence was not going to be denied like all these stupid
> hybernation "but I don't want to shutdown cry baby apps and devices" seem
> to hang on with. I've generally found the Security screen based shutdown
> usually works.
>
> - Jeff Middleton SBS-MVP
>
>
>
>
> "Franz Leu" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Leythos schrieb:
>>> In article <>,
>>> says...
>>>> - Connecting SBS2003 R2 via RDP from a W7 x64 to install WSUS updates
>>>> - Reboot is requested
>>>> - Initiating reboot
>>>> - Looks like it starts rebooting ... closing RDP
>>>>
>>>
>>> I never reboot a SBS server via RD connection, even with the /admin or
>>> /console option in the RD startup.
>>>
>>> Time and time again I was screwed by doing admin functions from a RD
>>> session and have just accepted that I will need to use VNC to manage all
>>> servers - now if we could just get VNC to work as smoothly under 08.
>>>
>>> I also created a batch file to restart the server more quickly - copied
>>> the details from somewhere on the web (credit to the person that created
>>> it).
>>>
>>> RESTART.BAT
>>> :
>>> net stop MSExchangeES /y
>>> net stop MSExchangeIS /y
>>> net stop MSExchangeMTA /y
>>> net stop MSExchangeSA /y
>>> net stop WinHttpAutoProxySvc /y
>>> shutdown /f /r /t 5
>>>
>>> If you do this, it will do a much quicker restart and it also works from
>>> RD sessions MOST times.
>>>
>> Thanks a lot. I will try this tonight.
>> Franz
>
>

I haven't seen this kind of issue (broadly--hang on shutdown) in a long
time--I reboot using the Windows Security menu routinely.

However, when I have seen it, I have sometimes been able to use the shutdown
command from a workstation, via VPN and RDP (or even RWW) to get the server
to reboot.


"Dave Nickason [SBS MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> FWIW, I've got 5 or 6 servers running various flavors of WS03 and I've
> seen this on all of them - SBS 2003, WS03 member servers, 64-bit Storage
> Server. And while I've seen it mostly when clicking pop-ups as you
> describe (and especially the "restart now" button at the end of patch
> installs), I've also had it happen from the Start menu as well. The only
> thing I've found totally reliable (at least so far) is Start -> Run ->
> Shutdown -i. I'm sure a batch file would work too, and I've heard of
> people scheduling a shutdown script before attempting a remote reboot - if
> the server reboots, they cancel the scheduled event, but if not, they'll
> regain access after the scheduled job runs.
>
> I added our office manager to "Print Operators" with the side benefit that
> he can reboot servers if I'm not here.
>
>
> "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Don't know if this helps much with the reboot issue, but I've always made
>> a habit of refusing reboot requests that pop-up, even if I want to
>> reboot. I always decline on screen and then once I am ready (I might stop
>> the Exchange store as suggested) I think click into the Start Menu - >
>> Security options to force the reboot. I find that this is much more
>> reliable to actually force the machine to reset.
>>
>> Some time back (I'm thinking the Wild West days of patch management circa
>> 2002) I also wrote a batch script that scheduled a shutdown request 5
>> minutes ahead in addition to the log off and reboot request I was doing.
>> There was a scriptable call you could make that acted at System level
>> (not user) and hence was not going to be denied like all these stupid
>> hybernation "but I don't want to shutdown cry baby apps and devices" seem
>> to hang on with. I've generally found the Security screen based shutdown
>> usually works.
>>
>> - Jeff Middleton SBS-MVP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Franz Leu" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Leythos schrieb:
>>>> In article <>,
>>>> says...
>>>>> - Connecting SBS2003 R2 via RDP from a W7 x64 to install WSUS updates
>>>>> - Reboot is requested
>>>>> - Initiating reboot
>>>>> - Looks like it starts rebooting ... closing RDP
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I never reboot a SBS server via RD connection, even with the /admin or
>>>> /console option in the RD startup.
>>>>
>>>> Time and time again I was screwed by doing admin functions from a RD
>>>> session and have just accepted that I will need to use VNC to manage
>>>> all servers - now if we could just get VNC to work as smoothly under
>>>> 08.
>>>>
>>>> I also created a batch file to restart the server more quickly - copied
>>>> the details from somewhere on the web (credit to the person that
>>>> created it).
>>>>
>>>> RESTART.BAT
>>>> :
>>>> net stop MSExchangeES /y
>>>> net stop MSExchangeIS /y
>>>> net stop MSExchangeMTA /y
>>>> net stop MSExchangeSA /y
>>>> net stop WinHttpAutoProxySvc /y
>>>> shutdown /f /r /t 5
>>>>
>>>> If you do this, it will do a much quicker restart and it also works
>>>> from RD sessions MOST times.
>>>>
>>> Thanks a lot. I will try this tonight.
>>> Franz
>>
>>
>

Dave Nickason [SBS MVP] schrieb:
> FWIW, I've got 5 or 6 servers running various flavors of WS03 and I've
> seen this on all of them - SBS 2003, WS03 member servers, 64-bit Storage
> Server. And while I've seen it mostly when clicking pop-ups as you
> describe (and especially the "restart now" button at the end of patch
> installs), I've also had it happen from the Start menu as well. The
> only thing I've found totally reliable (at least so far) is Start -> Run
> -> Shutdown -i. I'm sure a batch file would work too, and I've heard of
> people scheduling a shutdown script before attempting a remote reboot -
> if the server reboots, they cancel the scheduled event, but if not,
> they'll regain access after the scheduled job runs.
>
> I added our office manager to "Print Operators" with the side benefit
> that he can reboot servers if I'm not here.
>
>
> "Jeff Middleton [SBS-MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Don't know if this helps much with the reboot issue, but I've always
>> made a habit of refusing reboot requests that pop-up, even if I want
>> to reboot. I always decline on screen and then once I am ready (I
>> might stop the Exchange store as suggested) I think click into the
>> Start Menu - > Security options to force the reboot. I find that this
>> is much more reliable to actually force the machine to reset.
>>
>> Some time back (I'm thinking the Wild West days of patch management
>> circa 2002) I also wrote a batch script that scheduled a shutdown
>> request 5 minutes ahead in addition to the log off and reboot request
>> I was doing. There was a scriptable call you could make that acted at
>> System level (not user) and hence was not going to be denied like all
>> these stupid hybernation "but I don't want to shutdown cry baby apps
>> and devices" seem to hang on with. I've generally found the Security
>> screen based shutdown usually works.
>>
>> - Jeff Middleton SBS-MVP
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Franz Leu" <> wrote in
>> message news:...
>>> Leythos schrieb:
>>>> In article <>,
>>>> says...
>>>>> - Connecting SBS2003 R2 via RDP from a W7 x64 to install WSUS updates
>>>>> - Reboot is requested
>>>>> - Initiating reboot
>>>>> - Looks like it starts rebooting ... closing RDP
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I never reboot a SBS server via RD connection, even with the /admin
>>>> or /console option in the RD startup.
>>>>
>>>> Time and time again I was screwed by doing admin functions from a RD
>>>> session and have just accepted that I will need to use VNC to manage
>>>> all servers - now if we could just get VNC to work as smoothly under
>>>> 08.
>>>>
>>>> I also created a batch file to restart the server more quickly -
>>>> copied the details from somewhere on the web (credit to the person
>>>> that created it).
>>>>
>>>> RESTART.BAT
>>>> :
>>>> net stop MSExchangeES /y
>>>> net stop MSExchangeIS /y
>>>> net stop MSExchangeMTA /y
>>>> net stop MSExchangeSA /y
>>>> net stop WinHttpAutoProxySvc /y
>>>> shutdown /f /r /t 5
>>>>
>>>> If you do this, it will do a much quicker restart and it also works
>>>> from RD sessions MOST times.
>>>>
>>> Thanks a lot. I will try this tonight.
>>> Franz
>>
>>
>
Thank you guys.
I never click on the 'Restart now' and I as well always use the start
Menu to reboot.
Franz