Re: 6 months ago: Microsoft shows off leaner kernel for Windows 7

On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:25:44 -0400, DFS wrote:

> High Plains Thumper wrote:
>
>> Meanwhile, Linux will continue to be the choice OS to install on
>> lighter hardware, knowing that it will perform well as expected
>> and stable.
>
> heh!

HPT is delirious again.

>
>> Best test is to try the software.
>
> Absolutely. I recommend every Windows user give Linux a try.

You know what they say:

"If you think you hate Linux now, wait until you actually use it!"


>
>> It helps overcome the troll
>> nonsense being posted in this newsgroup, which is BASICALLY OUT
>> TO DESTROY LINUX REPUTATION in a sad jihad of evangelism tainted
>> with half truths and in some cases, out right lies.
>
> Why would that bother you? You lusers have been lying about MS and Windows
> since the first day
> cola came online.
>
> For instance, just yesterday cola luser AZNomad said Vista requires more
> memory than a 32-bit CPU can address. Not that any cola "advocates" have
> the integrity to challenge him.
>
> and out right = outright.

Linux destorys itself.
People download it.
People try it.
People dump it.

That's why the download numbers never come close to the usage numbers
reported by organizations like the BBC.

>
>
>> One falsehood is that Linux advocates hate Windows. This is not
>> true; we use it where needed.
>
> To make a living, while you only tinker and play with the hobby OS.

Exactly!


>
>
>> Having knowledge of the strengths and weaknesses of
>> Windows gives us a benchmark for comparing Linux.
>
> Let's hear you talk about Windows strengths. For once.

I'd be happy to hear them talk about Linux's strengths rather than
Microsoft's weaknesses for a change.


>
>> After comparing the 2, I have a definite preference for Linux. I
>> prefer the stability it brings,
>
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...ghlight=freeze
>
> Guess what? Freezes, loses your data, and requires reboots != stable

Everything is relative in the Linux world.
If the system boots it's stable.
If the system puts video on the screen the drivers are great.
If the system manages to play sound (rare BTW) the system is ready for
professional recording studio work.
etc....


>
>> the empowerment to save money,
>
> It's free because it has to be.

They can't even give it away and get people to stick with it.
How they hell could they ever charge money for it?


>
>> keep lighter and cheaper hardware fully operational, newer faster
>> hardware operating at peak efficiency for applications.
>
> English not your native tongue, eh?
>
>
>
>> It also helps to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by running
>> lighter on hardware.
>
> "90% of the time I boot into Ubuntu Gutsy on my Thinkpad T61p. However
> during traveling, I always boot into Windows XP instead of Ubuntu because XP
> gives me one additional hour of battery life than Ubuntu. I heard that the
> 2.6.22 kernel has some feature to reduce the CPU power consumption by reduce
> the number of CPU wakeups, but I have never noticed the difference. When
> considering battery life, XP eats Linux for breakfast."
>
> http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showt...5807#post15018

And this is the number one Linux distribution on distrowatch.

Makes you wonder how well the other 999 versions of Linux work...


--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
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On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:43:00 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:

> <snipped out all the retarded ****>

You're clearly a typical Windows user. You don't have a clue about
computers which is why you find Linux so scary.

Bill Gates' semen must have nicotine in it because you can't seem to take
his dick outta your mouth.

____/ Frank Stallone on Tuesday 15 April 2008 21:33 : \____

> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:43:00 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>
>> <snipped out all the retarded ****>
>
> You're clearly a typical Windows user. You don't have a clue about
> computers which is why you find Linux so scary.
>
> Bill Gates' semen must have nicotine in it because you can't seem to take
> his dick outta your mouth.

Gary Stewart (hundreds of pseudonyms include "Moshe Goldfarb") has no
background in computing or engineering. It's a vile and filthy
AstroTurfer/Munchkin. Just filter it out (before it nymshifts again) and
ignore it.


FYI:

,----[ Quote ]
| Â* Â* "Some years back, Microsoft practiced a lot of dirty tricks using
| online mavens to go into forums and create Web sites extolling the virtues
| of Windows over OS/2. They were dubbed the Microsoft Munchkins, and it
| was obvious who they were and what they were up to. But their numbers
| and energy (and they way they joined forces with nonaligned dummies who
| liked to pile on) proved too much for IBM marketers, and Windows wont
| he operating-system war through fifth-column tactics"
`----

http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/gi...sroots_an.html


,----[ Quote ]
| "Ideally, use of the competing technology becomes associated with mental
| deficiency, as in, "he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and OS/2."
| Just keep rubbing it in, via the press, analysts, newsgroups, whatever. Make
| the complete failure of the competition's technology part of the mythology of
| the computer industry. We want to place selection pressure on those companies
| and individuals that show a genetic weakness for competitors' technologies,
| to make the industry increasingly resistant to such unhealthy strains, over
| time." Â* Â* Â*
`----

-- Microsoft, internal document
http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Comes-3096.pdf



Recidivist M$ Up to New Tricks

,----[ Quote ]
| Unleash the Astro-Turfers!
|
| Already on Apple oriented developer mailing lists one can see the
| astro-turfing has begun. A really amateurish attempt by 'Mac Developer' (no
| one uses a stupid handle like that) turned up today.
`----

http://rixstep.com/1/20071004,00.shtml


Meet Thomas Brooks. He's a viral marketer for Microsoft.

,----[ Quote ]
| It's unfortunate that paid blogging is becoming all the more prevalent in
| communities like 1UP. And it's not just the blogs or reviews, it's also the
| message boards. Microsoft, for instance, also has a person (or people?) who
| is paid to post on some of the popular gaming boards (and no, Jeff Bell
| wasn't part of that plan). But it's not just Microsoft -- I know of a few
| other game publishers who pay users to blog. They don't necessarily require
| bloggers to say positive things about their products, but it's certainly
| implied with the paychecks.
|
| What bums me out about all this viral stuff is that, to some extent, you
| don't know who to trust anymore. There was a time when, if you no longer
| believed in what the professional editors where saying, you could at least
| count on your fellow gamers for honest opinions. Not anymore. In a sense,
| perhaps that helps elevate the importance of the professional word once
| again, which I suppose is a good thing for us. But I'm still not happy about
| it.
`----

http://www.1up.com/do/blogEntry?bId=...UserId=4561231


,----[ Quote ]
| "The main thing I'm ****ed off about right now is that they pulled all the
| ads, which mean we're taking a revenue hit. We're running a business here,
| and have payroll to make. We run ads to make that payroll. Those ads have now
| been pulled."
|
| Microsoft once again corrupts confidence in the blogsphere. They
| turn 'citizen journalists' to marketing people in disguise.
`----

http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-973....html?tag=head


,----[ Quote ]
| In 2001, the Los Angeles Times accused Microsoft of astroturfing
| when hundreds of similar letters were sent to newspapers voicing
| disagreement with the United States Department of Justice and its
| antitrust suit against Microsoft. The letters, prepared by Americans
| for Technology Leadership, had in some cases been mailed from
| deceased citizens or nonexistent addresses.
`----

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing


--
~~ Best of wishes

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the world's information (censorship) in its favour

* Roy Schestowitz peremptorily fired off this memo:

>| "Some years back, Microsoft practiced a lot of dirty tricks using
>| online mavens to go into forums and create Web sites extolling the virtues
>| of Windows over OS/2. They were dubbed the Microsoft Munchkins...
>
> http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/gi...sroots_an.html
>
>| "Ideally, use of the competing technology becomes associated with mental
>| deficiency, as in, "he believes in Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, and OS/2."
>| Just keep rubbing it in, via the press, analysts, newsgroups, whatever. Make
>| the complete failure of the competition's technology part of the mythology of
>| the computer industry...
>
> -- Microsoft, internal document
> http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/Comes-3096.pdf

Just wanted to emphasize the class of marketers we're dealing with.

Amoral and predatory, just as intimated by Robert Bork and Kenneth
Starr.

--
Television is not real life. In real life people actually have to leave the
coffee shop and go to jobs.
-- Bill Gates

On Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:29:00 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> ____/ Frank Stallone on Tuesday 15 April 2008 21:33 : \____
>
>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2008 09:43:00 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb wrote:
>>
>>> <snipped out all the retarded ****>
>>
>> You're clearly a typical Windows user. You don't have a clue about
>> computers which is why you find Linux so scary.
>>
>> Bill Gates' semen must have nicotine in it because you can't seem to take
>> his dick outta your mouth.
>
> Gary Stewart (hundreds of pseudonyms include "Moshe Goldfarb") has no
> background in computing or engineering. It's a vile and filthy
> AstroTurfer/Munchkin. Just filter it out (before it nymshifts again) and
> ignore it.
Wrong on all accounts professional SPAMMER.

In case you don't know, Roy Schestowitz is a PAID PROFESSIONAL SPAMMER who
resides as a professional student at a University in GB.
He is already at least 2 years behind in being awarded his degree, by his
own admission.

He has been SPAMMING these groups with 1000's of messages a month, many of
which lead back to his own websites where he collects the money for hits
generated.

He is using automated software to accomplish this and he spews this same
verbiage to various different places including digg.com, propeller and
other blogs and groups.

The name of Roy Schestowitz's game is "seed google" with search terms that
are misleading, IOW to make Linux look good and Windows/Microsoft bad.

If you spend some time and read the links in Roy's messages you will
quickly learn that many times the links have nothing to do with the subject
line.
This is done on purpose.

Roy Schestowitz is being funded to do this and at some point the source of
this funding will be located and the whole scam will be revealed.

Don't be fooled by his apparent interest in Linux advocacy for the sake of
the cause.

Use a little common sense and clear judgment and decide for yourself how,
why and what would motivate a full time student to SPAM ridculous amounts
of posts all over the Internet.
And then you can think about where the time comes from to do this.

http://groups.google.com/groups/prof...UZHxqbrtGgkPow

A little about Roy Schestowitz:

http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/2007...witz-liar.html

" oy Schestowitz is a career college student at some liberal artsy
university. He has never had a job or any responsibility in his life and
his poor parents have been supporting his butt for many years. Instead of
actually graduating like you're supposed to this proven liar spends 24
hours a day, 7 days a week (including all holidays) posting lies to every
corner of the internet. He posts to a Microsoft-hate newsgroup called COLA
for instance where he finds the time to make thousands of posts each month.
Really... this is no exaggeration. He literally makes several thousand
posts per month to this lowly newsgroup instead of studying or getting a
job. He was posting so much and misusing his college computers so much that
after several warnings and complaints his school had no choice but to
suspend his internet posting privileges. (He's not supposed to use school
computers for personal gain.) Now he uses Mark Kent's account (another
linux liar) to spew his lies and hatred from.

He was recently found guilty of stealing artwork from other websites and
posting them on his site despite the clear and obvious copyright warnings.
He has no hesitation in shamelessly stealing the work of others and posting
it up on his website as his own in order to try and make a few pennies
profit.

Other than posting to COLA he has his own anti-Microsoft website and
created for-profit websites that attempt to boycott linux vendors he
doesn't like such as Novell, Xandros and etc. His specialty is to take news
stories and twist the headline and contents of the story into something
that was never written. Unsuspecting readers will see the post from Roy
Schestowitz and assume it's the truth when in reality it's nothing but
lies, delusions, ravings and rants from this immature child."



BTW as for me, I am a degreed Engineer and I am certainly not Gary
Stewert.

Roy Schestowitz has been asked to substantiate his accusations many times
and he never does, because he can't.
He just runs away and fires up the SPAM=O=Matic machine.

--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/