Re: 816093: Security Update Microsoft Virtual Machine (MicrosoftVM)

Microsoft Java Virtual Machine Transition Guide for IT Professionals, v2.2
Chapter 5: The MSJVM Removal Tool
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/int.../msjvmp05.mspx

Remove all vestiges of the MSJVM with the above tool since this runtime
is no longer supported by MS.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
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Avi wrote:

> Hi
> i a new user here and i need some help , in some computers i recived the
> next messege:
> 816093: Security Update Microsoft Virtual Machine (Microsoft VM)
> Approval: install
> Needed: needd
> thet messege i receved from the "WSUSadmin" and it come for some computers
> with windows xp professional but not at all the computers .
> thensk regards

Sorry I gave you incorrect information:

> Remove all vestiges of the MSJVM with the above tool since this runtime is no
> longer supported by MS.

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/int.../msjvmp01.mspx

> This extension allows Microsoft to support the MSJVM and address potential security
> issues until December 31, 2007.

It would be better to remove all vestiges of the MSJMV since support for
it will end in just over one year.
Currently, Sun's JRE is available as a replacement -
http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp

Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 Update 10

BUT, be VERY wary of Sun's auto updater. It leaves older versions behind
when a newer one is released. You'll have to manually uninstall them
from Add/Remove Programs in the Control Panel.
So what ? So, they are approximately about 115 MB in size.

And, it may not prompt you to install the most current version for
months after it's release even though there may be a Critical security
vulnerability with the version that is installed.

Now, if MS acted like Sun does ... it would make national news, be on
scores of blogs, and everyone would be flaming them.
I wonder why no one's flaming Sun for this pathetic "update mechanism" ?


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MowGreen [MVP] wrote:

> Microsoft Java Virtual Machine Transition Guide for IT Professionals, v2.2
> Chapter 5: The MSJVM Removal Tool
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/int.../msjvmp05.mspx
>
> Remove all vestiges of the MSJVM with the above tool since this runtime
> is no longer supported by MS.
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>
>
> Avi wrote:
>
>> Hi i a new user here and i need some help , in some computers i
>> recived the next messege:
>> 816093: Security Update Microsoft Virtual Machine (Microsoft VM)
>> Approval: install
>> Needed: needd
>> thet messege i receved from the "WSUSadmin" and it come for some
>> computers with windows xp professional but not at all the computers .
>> thensk regards

>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/int.../msjvmp01.mspx
>


Link to download the tool is obsolete...

You can try this page instead, for getting the removal tool:

http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4158.html

Regards,

Martin

Link is still working here, Martin. Not sure why you can't access that page.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
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Martin Maurer wrote:

>>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/int.../msjvmp01.mspx
>>
>
>
>
> Link to download the tool is obsolete...
>
> You can try this page instead, for getting the removal tool:
>
> http://www.majorgeeks.com/download4158.html
>
> Regards,
>
> Martin
>
>

Hello,

> Link is still working here, Martin. Not sure why you can't access that
> page.

No problem, to access the page you mentioned:
>>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/int.../msjvmp01.mspx

but if you want to download the tool, you must go to chapter 5:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/int.../msjvmp05.mspx

And there is the link to download the tool:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

And when you click on this link, you get
"The download you requested is unavailable.
If you continue to see this message when trying to access this download, go
to the "Search for a Download" area on the Download Center home page. "

So it is not possible (at least clicking this way) to download the tool :-(

Regards,

Martin

Thanks for pointing that out, Martin. FWIW, the Tool can be downloaded
from the link on *Chapter 2*, but of course even after going there it
requires 2 more clicks ... so, this link is the one that *works* -

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en


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Martin Maurer wrote:

> Hello,
>
>
>>Link is still working here, Martin. Not sure why you can't access that
>>page.
>
>
> No problem, to access the page you mentioned:
>
>>>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/int.../msjvmp01.mspx
>
>
> but if you want to download the tool, you must go to chapter 5:
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/int.../msjvmp05.mspx
>
> And there is the link to download the tool:
> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>
> And when you click on this link, you get
> "The download you requested is unavailable.
> If you continue to see this message when trying to access this download, go
> to the "Search for a Download" area on the Download Center home page. "
>
> So it is not possible (at least clicking this way) to download the tool :-(
>
> Regards,
>
> Martin
>
>
>
>

I take it all back. From - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/826878

> The Microsoft Java Virtual Machine (MSJVM) Removal Tool is no longer available for public
> download. The "Resolution" section and the "More Information" section contain details
> about this change in availability.

> RESOLUTION

> The MSJVM Removal Tool is still available directly from Microsoft Product Support Services
> if the following criteria are met:
> • Your organization has an IT manager or a similar position.
> • You understand that, if you use the MSJVM Removal Tool, you agree that Microsoft
> has no obligation to provide the MSJVM to you under the End User License Agreement for
> the MSJVM Removal Tool.
> • You understand that, if you use the MSJVM Removal Tool, Microsoft cannot provide
> a copy of the MSJVM to you if you want to reinstall the MSJVM after it has been removed.
> • You understand that your only options for reinstallation of the MSJVM will be to
> install from an earlier image that includes the MSJVM, to reinstall a third-party
> application that includes the MSJVM, or to reinstall the applicable Microsoft Windows
> operating system from the installation media.
> • You understand that Microsoft cannot provide Windows operating system recovery
> media to you that includes the MSJVM for reinstallation because Microsoft no longer
> includes the MSJVM in Windows operating system products.

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>
>
> Martin Maurer wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>>> Link is still working here, Martin. Not sure why you can't access
>>> that page.
>>
>>
>>
>> No problem, to access the page you mentioned:
>>
>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/int.../msjvmp01.mspx
>>
>>
>>
>> but if you want to download the tool, you must go to chapter 5:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/int.../msjvmp05.mspx
>>
>> And there is the link to download the tool:
>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>>
>>
>> And when you click on this link, you get
>> "The download you requested is unavailable.
>> If you continue to see this message when trying to access this
>> download, go to the "Search for a Download" area on the Download
>> Center home page. "
>>
>> So it is not possible (at least clicking this way) to download the
>> tool :-(
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>

Now I am suddenly getting this erroneous error.

The diagnostic says that I don't have VM installed, and I have the
latest Java installed.

The update 816093 says that I need to update VM, yet it's not installed.

I UNINSTALLED Jave and reinstalled with latest version.

I still get the error messages about update only being able to update
previously installed versions of VM.

What a ClusterF*!!

These two companies have GOT to work it out over these trivial little
applets that waste my time (and don't really do enough to warrant the
aggrevation)!

How (or should) I upgrade for 'security purposes', or leave the update
turned off (like I do now)?

I've read all the earlier threads and still haven't found any real
resoulution!

Any other recommendations?

Thanks,

Greg

*****



MowGreen [MVP] wrote:
> I take it all back. From - http://support.microsoft.com/kb/826878
>
>> The Microsoft Java Virtual Machine (MSJVM) Removal Tool is no longer
>> available for public
>> download. The "Resolution" section and the "More Information" section
>> contain details about this change in availability.
>
>
>> RESOLUTION
>
>
>> The MSJVM Removal Tool is still available directly from Microsoft
>> Product Support Services
>> if the following criteria are met:
>> • Your organization has an IT manager or a similar position.
>> • You understand that, if you use the MSJVM Removal Tool, you agree
>> that Microsoft has no obligation to provide the MSJVM to you under the
>> End User License Agreement for the MSJVM Removal Tool.
>> • You understand that, if you use the MSJVM Removal Tool, Microsoft
>> cannot provide
>> a copy of the MSJVM to you if you want to reinstall the MSJVM after it
>> has been removed.
>> • You understand that your only options for reinstallation of the
>> MSJVM will be to
>> install from an earlier image that includes the MSJVM, to reinstall a
>> third-party application that includes the MSJVM, or to reinstall the
>> applicable Microsoft Windows operating system from the installation
>> media.
>> • You understand that Microsoft cannot provide Windows operating
>> system recovery media to you that includes the MSJVM for
>> reinstallation because Microsoft no longer includes the MSJVM in
>> Windows operating system products.
>
>
> MowGreen [MVP 2003-2007]
> ===============
> *-343-* FDNY
> Never Forgotten
> ===============
>
>
>>
>>
>> Martin Maurer wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>>
>>>> Link is still working here, Martin. Not sure why you can't access
>>>> that page.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> No problem, to access the page you mentioned:
>>>
>>>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/int.../msjvmp01.mspx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> but if you want to download the tool, you must go to chapter 5:
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/int.../msjvmp05.mspx
>>>
>>> And there is the link to download the tool:
>>> http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
>>>
>>>
>>> And when you click on this link, you get
>>> "The download you requested is unavailable.
>>> If you continue to see this message when trying to access this
>>> download, go to the "Search for a Download" area on the Download
>>> Center home page. "
>>>
>>> So it is not possible (at least clicking this way) to download the
>>> tool :-(
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Martin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>