Re: Boot record got the boot; missing NTLDR;x64

See my blogs on recovering and dual booting. All the necessary steps are in
there. If your copies of ntldr, etc, are missing you can get them off the
install CD.

http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/arc...Vista-x64.aspx

http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/arc.../21/76180.aspx

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


<> wrote in message
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>A long story, but I managed to whack the boot record with partition
> commander. I can get the PC to the "recover" mode using the install
> CDROM and my fake raid drivers [3rd party install].
>
> Running bootcfg /scan, it finds my windows installation. [No surprise
> since I had to enter the password to get to the recover mode.] I did
> a bootcfg /rebuild . However, I get the missing NTLDR message when I
> try to boot.
>
> I guess what I'm looking for is some help on these recovery commands,
> namely
> bootcfg
> fixboot
> fixmbr
>

Actually, in my case, D: was the existing XP x64 install, which had known
good ones. I prefer to pull the ones off of a known good XP x64 install
when trying to get back to that as my core OS.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


<> wrote in message
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>
>
> On Jan 26, 10:42 pm, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
> <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>> See my blogs on recovering and dual booting. All the necessary steps are
>> in
>> there. If your copies of ntldr, etc, are missing you can get them off the
>> install CD.
>>
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/arc...ing-Dual-Boot-...
>>
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/arc.../21/76180.aspx
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>
> Well, this is progress. I got as far as bootcfg/rebuild
> Here is where I'm confused. I assume in your website, d: is the CDROM.
> If so, all the nt*.* files sit in the directory i386
> In that directory, there are the following files:
> ntdetect.com 47772 03/25/05
> ntldr 295536 03/25/05
>
> On my x64 partition, which is e:, I have:
> ntdetect.com 47772 3/25/05
> ntest directory
> ntldr 297072 01/16/07
>
> So is the proper file on the i386 directory? Also, my ntldr is there
> and is larger than the one on the cdrom.
>
> I can't seem to find the ECD 1.52 file, just the older files.
>
>>
>> <m...@sushi.com> wrote in
>> messagenews: ooglegroups.com...
>>
>> >A long story, but I managed to whack the boot record with partition
>> > commander. I can get the PC to the "recover" mode using the install
>> > CDROM and my fake raid drivers [3rd party install].
>>
>> > Running bootcfg /scan, it finds my windows installation. [No surprise
>> > since I had to enter the password to get to the recover mode.] I did
>> > a bootcfg /rebuild . However, I get the missing NTLDR message when I
>> > try to boot.
>>
>> > I guess what I'm looking for is some help on these recovery commands,
>> > namely
>> > bootcfg
>> > fixboot
>> > fixmbr
>

oh. And EasyBCD download is at: http://neosmart.net/dl.php?id=1 (first hit
if you google EasyBCD)

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


<> wrote in message
news: ups.com...
>
>
> On Jan 26, 10:42 pm, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
> <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>> See my blogs on recovering and dual booting. All the necessary steps are
>> in
>> there. If your copies of ntldr, etc, are missing you can get them off the
>> install CD.
>>
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/arc...ing-Dual-Boot-...
>>
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/arc.../21/76180.aspx
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>
> Well, this is progress. I got as far as bootcfg/rebuild
> Here is where I'm confused. I assume in your website, d: is the CDROM.
> If so, all the nt*.* files sit in the directory i386
> In that directory, there are the following files:
> ntdetect.com 47772 03/25/05
> ntldr 295536 03/25/05
>
> On my x64 partition, which is e:, I have:
> ntdetect.com 47772 3/25/05
> ntest directory
> ntldr 297072 01/16/07
>
> So is the proper file on the i386 directory? Also, my ntldr is there
> and is larger than the one on the cdrom.
>
> I can't seem to find the ECD 1.52 file, just the older files.
>
>>
>> <m...@sushi.com> wrote in
>> messagenews: ooglegroups.com...
>>
>> >A long story, but I managed to whack the boot record with partition
>> > commander. I can get the PC to the "recover" mode using the install
>> > CDROM and my fake raid drivers [3rd party install].
>>
>> > Running bootcfg /scan, it finds my windows installation. [No surprise
>> > since I had to enter the password to get to the recover mode.] I did
>> > a bootcfg /rebuild . However, I get the missing NTLDR message when I
>> > try to boot.
>>
>> > I guess what I'm looking for is some help on these recovery commands,
>> > namely
>> > bootcfg
>> > fixboot
>> > fixmbr
>

You are a lost soul. EasyBCD has to be installed on Vista or XP. You
haven't provided useful information to solve your problem, so I tried to
give you an idea how to start trouble shooting. Good luck.

<> wrote in message
news: oups.com...
> Easy BCD is too large to fit on a floppy. The guide file link is a
> 404.
>
> I put it on a bootable cdrom using NERO, but I can't get it to work.
> Needless to say, HELP!
>

Ah, but not all ntldr are created equal. You have to have the right one for
your OSs.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


<> wrote in message
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>
>
> On Jan 27, 11:35 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
> <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>> Actually, in my case, D: was the existing XP x64 install, which had known
>> good ones. I prefer to pull the ones off of a known good XP x64 install
>> when trying to get back to that as my core OS.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>
> But then I must have a different problem since I do have the NTLDR
> file on my HD. I'll see what happens with Easy BCD.
>>
>> <m...@sushi.com> wrote in
>> messagenews: oglegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>> > On Jan 26, 10:42 pm, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
>> > <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>> >> See my blogs on recovering and dual booting. All the necessary steps
>> >> are
>> >> in
>> >> there. If your copies of ntldr, etc, are missing you can get them off
>> >> the
>> >> install CD.
>>
>> >>http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/arc...ing-Dual-Boot-...
>>
>> >>http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/arc.../21/76180.aspx
>>
>> >> --
>> >> Charlie.http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>> > Well, this is progress. I got as far as bootcfg/rebuild
>> > Here is where I'm confused. I assume in your website, d: is the CDROM.
>> > If so, all the nt*.* files sit in the directory i386
>> > In that directory, there are the following files:
>> > ntdetect.com 47772 03/25/05
>> > ntldr 295536 03/25/05
>>
>> > On my x64 partition, which is e:, I have:
>> > ntdetect.com 47772 3/25/05
>> > ntest directory
>> > ntldr 297072 01/16/07
>>
>> > So is the proper file on the i386 directory? Also, my ntldr is there
>> > and is larger than the one on the cdrom.
>>
>> > I can't seem to find the ECD 1.52 file, just the older files.
>>
>> >> <m...@sushi.com> wrote in
>> >> messagenews: ooglegroups.com...
>>
>> >> >A long story, but I managed to whack the boot record with partition
>> >> > commander. I can get the PC to the "recover" mode using the install
>> >> > CDROM and my fake raid drivers [3rd party install].
>>
>> >> > Running bootcfg /scan, it finds my windows installation. [No
>> >> > surprise
>> >> > since I had to enter the password to get to the recover mode.] I
>> >> > did
>> >> > a bootcfg /rebuild . However, I get the missing NTLDR message when I
>> >> > try to boot.
>>
>> >> > I guess what I'm looking for is some help on these recovery
>> >> > commands,
>> >> > namely
>> >> > bootcfg
>> >> > fixboot
>> >> > fixmbr
>

You are very patient Charlie. My guess is you will have written 5 books or
more before we have enough information from this poster to begin to help.

"Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
news:A4D64BFB-E91E-4848-BB81-...
> Ah, but not all ntldr are created equal. You have to have the right one
> for your OSs.
>
> --
> Charlie.
> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>
>
> <> wrote in message
> news: ups.com...
>>
>>
>> On Jan 27, 11:35 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
>> <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>>> Actually, in my case, D: was the existing XP x64 install, which had
>>> known
>>> good ones. I prefer to pull the ones off of a known good XP x64 install
>>> when trying to get back to that as my core OS.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Charlie.http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>> But then I must have a different problem since I do have the NTLDR
>> file on my HD. I'll see what happens with Easy BCD.
>>>
>>> <m...@sushi.com> wrote in
>>> messagenews: oglegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Jan 26, 10:42 pm, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
>>> > <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>>> >> See my blogs on recovering and dual booting. All the necessary steps
>>> >> are
>>> >> in
>>> >> there. If your copies of ntldr, etc, are missing you can get them off
>>> >> the
>>> >> install CD.
>>>
>>> >>http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/arc...ing-Dual-Boot-...
>>>
>>> >>http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/arc.../21/76180.aspx
>>>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Charlie.http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>
>>> > Well, this is progress. I got as far as bootcfg/rebuild
>>> > Here is where I'm confused. I assume in your website, d: is the CDROM.
>>> > If so, all the nt*.* files sit in the directory i386
>>> > In that directory, there are the following files:
>>> > ntdetect.com 47772 03/25/05
>>> > ntldr 295536 03/25/05
>>>
>>> > On my x64 partition, which is e:, I have:
>>> > ntdetect.com 47772 3/25/05
>>> > ntest directory
>>> > ntldr 297072 01/16/07
>>>
>>> > So is the proper file on the i386 directory? Also, my ntldr is there
>>> > and is larger than the one on the cdrom.
>>>
>>> > I can't seem to find the ECD 1.52 file, just the older files.
>>>
>>> >> <m...@sushi.com> wrote in
>>> >> messagenews: ooglegroups.com...
>>>
>>> >> >A long story, but I managed to whack the boot record with partition
>>> >> > commander. I can get the PC to the "recover" mode using the install
>>> >> > CDROM and my fake raid drivers [3rd party install].
>>>
>>> >> > Running bootcfg /scan, it finds my windows installation. [No
>>> >> > surprise
>>> >> > since I had to enter the password to get to the recover mode.] I
>>> >> > did
>>> >> > a bootcfg /rebuild . However, I get the missing NTLDR message when
>>> >> > I
>>> >> > try to boot.
>>>
>>> >> > I guess what I'm looking for is some help on these recovery
>>> >> > commands,
>>> >> > namely
>>> >> > bootcfg
>>> >> > fixboot
>>> >> > fixmbr
>>
>

Let's hope not.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


"John Barnes" <> wrote in message
news:...
> You are very patient Charlie. My guess is you will have written 5 books
> or more before we have enough information from this poster to begin to
> help.
>
> "Charlie Russel - MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:A4D64BFB-E91E-4848-BB81-...
>> Ah, but not all ntldr are created equal. You have to have the right one
>> for your OSs.
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.
>> http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>>
>> <> wrote in message
>> news: ups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 27, 11:35 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
>>> <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>>>> Actually, in my case, D: was the existing XP x64 install, which had
>>>> known
>>>> good ones. I prefer to pull the ones off of a known good XP x64
>>>> install
>>>> when trying to get back to that as my core OS.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Charlie.http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>
>>> But then I must have a different problem since I do have the NTLDR
>>> file on my HD. I'll see what happens with Easy BCD.
>>>>
>>>> <m...@sushi.com> wrote in
>>>> messagenews: oglegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > On Jan 26, 10:42 pm, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
>>>> > <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>>>> >> See my blogs on recovering and dual booting. All the necessary steps
>>>> >> are
>>>> >> in
>>>> >> there. If your copies of ntldr, etc, are missing you can get them
>>>> >> off the
>>>> >> install CD.
>>>>
>>>> >>http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/arc...ing-Dual-Boot-...
>>>>
>>>> >>http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/arc.../21/76180.aspx
>>>>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Charlie.http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>>>
>>>> > Well, this is progress. I got as far as bootcfg/rebuild
>>>> > Here is where I'm confused. I assume in your website, d: is the
>>>> > CDROM.
>>>> > If so, all the nt*.* files sit in the directory i386
>>>> > In that directory, there are the following files:
>>>> > ntdetect.com 47772 03/25/05
>>>> > ntldr 295536 03/25/05
>>>>
>>>> > On my x64 partition, which is e:, I have:
>>>> > ntdetect.com 47772 3/25/05
>>>> > ntest directory
>>>> > ntldr 297072 01/16/07
>>>>
>>>> > So is the proper file on the i386 directory? Also, my ntldr is there
>>>> > and is larger than the one on the cdrom.
>>>>
>>>> > I can't seem to find the ECD 1.52 file, just the older files.
>>>>
>>>> >> <m...@sushi.com> wrote in
>>>> >> messagenews: ooglegroups.com...
>>>>
>>>> >> >A long story, but I managed to whack the boot record with partition
>>>> >> > commander. I can get the PC to the "recover" mode using the
>>>> >> > install
>>>> >> > CDROM and my fake raid drivers [3rd party install].
>>>>
>>>> >> > Running bootcfg /scan, it finds my windows installation. [No
>>>> >> > surprise
>>>> >> > since I had to enter the password to get to the recover mode.] I
>>>> >> > did
>>>> >> > a bootcfg /rebuild . However, I get the missing NTLDR message when
>>>> >> > I
>>>> >> > try to boot.
>>>>
>>>> >> > I guess what I'm looking for is some help on these recovery
>>>> >> > commands,
>>>> >> > namely
>>>> >> > bootcfg
>>>> >> > fixboot
>>>> >> > fixmbr
>>>
>>
>

I agree, Charlie is a saint! I think you've certainly gone the extra mile as
well, John!

~Spinnacre

"John Barnes" <> wrote in message
news:...
> You are a lost soul. EasyBCD has to be installed on Vista or XP. You
> haven't provided useful information to solve your problem, so I tried to
> give you an idea how to start trouble shooting. Good luck.
>
> <> wrote in message
> news: oups.com...
>> Easy BCD is too large to fit on a floppy. The guide file link is a
>> 404.
>>
>> I put it on a bootable cdrom using NERO, but I can't get it to work.
>> Needless to say, HELP!
>>
>

What type of drives are in your computer. IDE or SATA Are you multi
booting? What systems, and specify below.

For each drive, from Disk Management, could you say what you have on each
partition and list the items in parentheses for each volume. For example
disk 0 partition 1 Windows XP X64, (System, Boot, Active, Primary
Partition) partition 2, etc.

Did you run the fixboot, or fixmbr as you asked about. If so which drive
did you do fixmbr for.
Are you communicating from the problem computer? If so which system are you
using.

If you cannot get to disk management on the computer, just give the most
information you can. You can tell the system drive from the BIOS, it is the
first drive in boot priority.

With this information and that you already know how to get into Recovery
Console, we can plan the next steps.


<> wrote in message
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>
>
> On Jan 27, 4:23 pm, "John Barnes" <jbar...@email.net> wrote:
>> You are a lost soul. EasyBCD has to be installed on Vista or XP. You
>> haven't provided useful information to solve your problem, so I tried to
>> give you an idea how to start trouble shooting. Good luck.
>
> You have failed to state what information you are lacking. Regarding
> Easy BCD, the help files are not on-line. The neosmart forum requires
> a password.
>
>
>>
>> <m...@sushi.com> wrote in
>> messagenews: ooglegroups.com...
>>
>> > Easy BCD is too large to fit on a floppy. The guide file link is a
>> > 404.
>>
>> > I put it on a bootable cdrom using NERO, but I can't get it to work.
>> > Needless to say, HELP!
>

Frankly, at this point, I'm bowing out. I honestly think you need someone
sitting next to you to solve this, where the feedback loop is more
immediate.

--
Charlie.
http://msmvps.com/xperts64


<> wrote in message
news: ps.com...
>
>
> On Jan 28, 11:55 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
> <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>> Let's hope not.
>
> Please state what information you need.
>
>>
>> --
>> Charlie.http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>> "John Barnes" <jbar...@email.net> wrote in
>> messagenews:. ..
>>
>> > You are very patient Charlie. My guess is you will have written 5
>> > books
>> > or more before we have enough information from this poster to begin to
>> > help.
>>
>> > "Charlie Russel - MVP" <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote in
>> > message
>> >news:A4D64BFB-E91E-4848-BB81-...
>> >> Ah, but not all ntldr are created equal. You have to have the right
>> >> one
>> >> for your OSs.
>>
>> >> --
>> >> Charlie.
>> >>http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>> >> <m...@sushi.com> wrote in message
>> >>news: roups.com...
>>
>> >>> On Jan 27, 11:35 am, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
>> >>> <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>> >>>> Actually, in my case, D: was the existing XP x64 install, which had
>> >>>> known
>> >>>> good ones. I prefer to pull the ones off of a known good XP x64
>> >>>> install
>> >>>> when trying to get back to that as my core OS.
>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Charlie.http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>> >>> But then I must have a different problem since I do have the NTLDR
>> >>> file on my HD. I'll see what happens with Easy BCD.
>>
>> >>>> <m...@sushi.com> wrote in
>> >>>> messagenews: oglegroups.com...
>>
>> >>>> > On Jan 26, 10:42 pm, "Charlie Russel - MVP"
>> >>>> > <char...@mvKILLALLSPAMMERSps.org> wrote:
>> >>>> >> See my blogs on recovering and dual booting. All the necessary
>> >>>> >> steps
>> >>>> >> are
>> >>>> >> in
>> >>>> >> there. If your copies of ntldr, etc, are missing you can get them
>> >>>> >> off the
>> >>>> >> install CD.
>>
>> >>>> >>http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/arc...ing-Dual-Boot-...
>>
>> >>>> >>http://msmvps.com/blogs/xperts64/arc.../21/76180.aspx
>>
>> >>>> >> --
>> >>>> >> Charlie.http://msmvps.com/xperts64
>>
>> >>>> > Well, this is progress. I got as far as bootcfg/rebuild
>> >>>> > Here is where I'm confused. I assume in your website, d: is the
>> >>>> > CDROM.
>> >>>> > If so, all the nt*.* files sit in the directory i386
>> >>>> > In that directory, there are the following files:
>> >>>> > ntdetect.com 47772 03/25/05
>> >>>> > ntldr 295536 03/25/05
>>
>> >>>> > On my x64 partition, which is e:, I have:
>> >>>> > ntdetect.com 47772 3/25/05
>> >>>> > ntest directory
>> >>>> > ntldr 297072 01/16/07
>>
>> >>>> > So is the proper file on the i386 directory? Also, my ntldr is
>> >>>> > there
>> >>>> > and is larger than the one on the cdrom.
>>
>> >>>> > I can't seem to find the ECD 1.52 file, just the older files.
>>
>> >>>> >> <m...@sushi.com> wrote in
>> >>>> >> messagenews: ooglegroups.com...
>>
>> >>>> >> >A long story, but I managed to whack the boot record with
>> >>>> >> >partition
>> >>>> >> > commander. I can get the PC to the "recover" mode using the
>> >>>> >> > install
>> >>>> >> > CDROM and my fake raid drivers [3rd party install].
>>
>> >>>> >> > Running bootcfg /scan, it finds my windows installation. [No
>> >>>> >> > surprise
>> >>>> >> > since I had to enter the password to get to the recover mode.]
>> >>>> >> > I
>> >>>> >> > did
>> >>>> >> > a bootcfg /rebuild . However, I get the missing NTLDR message
>> >>>> >> > when
>> >>>> >> > I
>> >>>> >> > try to boot.
>>
>> >>>> >> > I guess what I'm looking for is some help on these recovery
>> >>>> >> > commands,
>> >>>> >> > namely
>> >>>> >> > bootcfg
>> >>>> >> > fixboot
>> >>>> >> > fixmbr
>