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luisortizhome@yahoo.com
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      09-09-2007
On Sep 9, 5:02 pm, Richard Rasker <spamt...@linetec.nl> wrote:
> Well, my trusty old Celeron 660 work horse finally kicked the bucket. All
> kinds of weird errors popped up intermittently, and it wasn't the HD, it
> wasn't the RAM, it wasn't the supply, and it sure as hell wasn't Linux.
>
> I suspected the mainboard capacitors were at fault, but as there were
> quite a number of these, I decided not to replace 'em, but instead to go
> out and buy myself a new machine -- the first one in over nine years.
>
> Now there's this new local computer business, with all kinds of machines
> on display -- but most still uninstalled, as most people want XP, while
> some others want Vista (although I can't imagine why); and of course
> there are people (such as yours truly) who don't want a preinstalled OS.
> The store owner takes "consumer choice" seriously, although only when
> this choice is limited to Windows. One reason for this is that he'd never
> actually seen Linux in action, and thought it still was some arcane OS
> with a clunky UI, offering almost no viable software at all.
> So I selected a nice, very quiet dual-core Pentium 2.8GHz machine with
> one GB of RAM, and asked if it was OK if I installed Linux on it, right
> there and then. The guy laughed and said it was OK, but that he'd close
> shop in an hour, so I'd better come back early next morning. I said that
> I'd only need about a quarter of an hour, and he got quite interested.
>
> I popped in the DVD (Mandriva Spring 2007) and rebooted the machine.
> After a mere twelve minutes, the installation of KDE plus the default
> desktop software selection was done -- and everything worked flawlessly
> right away: graphics (including 3D acceleration!), sound, networking,
> attached printer ... no problem at all, no configuration needed.
> The man was quite impressed. "Gheez! That's quicker and better than
> Vista!". When I actually logged in and showed him some more, he became
> even more impressed. "Huh? That's just like Microsoft Office! What? You
> say it's compatible? And it does PDF's with just one mouse click?
> Speaking of which ... can this thing read PDF's out-of-the-box? It can?
> Um, e-mail? MSN? Video editing? Burning DVD's? Sound recording? DTP? Web
> authoring? WOW! Now /THAT's/ what I call a 3D desktop!! Games? ...
> In short: he was totally awestruck, also because everything worked
> perfectly well first go. I only had to disappoint him with regard to the
> games, as there are not really all that many serious game titles
> available for Linux -- but the ones I installed, worked just fine.
>
> After over an hour of showing off, I was finally allowed to take the
> machine home -- but I had to leave the Mandriva installation DVD
> behind :-)
>
> And now, after a few days, I can say that everything still works without
> a hitch, and *very*, *very* fast indeed. Even OpenOffice.org only takes 6
> seconds to start the first time, and just over 2 seconds after that. Most
> smaller apps appear virtually instantaneous. The only thing I still miss
> is my old scanner, because it depends on an old ISA AHA1542 SCSI card,
> but hey, for ten bucks I can get a second hand PCI SCSI card, so that
> should be fixed shortly as well. But to all those Wintrolls who say that
> Linux only works with hardware that's at least three years old: liars!
>
> And oh, the price: $250. Plus a DVD copy of Mandriva Spring 2007 :-)
>
> Richard Rasker
> --http://www.linetec.nl/


And this fairytale has been brought to you courtesy of your local
Linux zealot liar.
Had you not picked Mandriva as part of your made up story it might
have been believable, but Mandriva is a disaster
when it comes to hardware support, especially for the eye candy.
Do you guys have some kind of a script that churns this pablum out or
is it done the old fashioned way?

Nice fairytale though. It goes well with a hot bath and a cool brew.

Maybe next time you can tell us about the little compiler that
couldn't?



 
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jonathan perreault
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      09-10-2007
actually i believe it, and just in case you don't think that i'm gullible, i
had a boot cd of linux mandriva that you didn't need to install only boot,
and it recognised all my hardware which for vista, i have to download it
from the manufacturor, and it was a beautifull picture too, it made me want
to install it, but i'm too afraid of making vista mad and hiving it think
that i have two boot configuration and keep me from booting up. thecnology
smart: semi-geek

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Jonathan Perreault
Forget Do Not Undermine Windows's Work,
Or It'll Undermine You As A User.

New Word Of Advice: Torture Windows (Any) Now
Before It Tortures You
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> On Sep 9, 5:02 pm, Richard Rasker <spamt...@linetec.nl> wrote:
>> Well, my trusty old Celeron 660 work horse finally kicked the bucket. All
>> kinds of weird errors popped up intermittently, and it wasn't the HD, it
>> wasn't the RAM, it wasn't the supply, and it sure as hell wasn't Linux.
>>
>> I suspected the mainboard capacitors were at fault, but as there were
>> quite a number of these, I decided not to replace 'em, but instead to go
>> out and buy myself a new machine -- the first one in over nine years.
>>
>> Now there's this new local computer business, with all kinds of machines
>> on display -- but most still uninstalled, as most people want XP, while
>> some others want Vista (although I can't imagine why); and of course
>> there are people (such as yours truly) who don't want a preinstalled OS.
>> The store owner takes "consumer choice" seriously, although only when
>> this choice is limited to Windows. One reason for this is that he'd never
>> actually seen Linux in action, and thought it still was some arcane OS
>> with a clunky UI, offering almost no viable software at all.
>> So I selected a nice, very quiet dual-core Pentium 2.8GHz machine with
>> one GB of RAM, and asked if it was OK if I installed Linux on it, right
>> there and then. The guy laughed and said it was OK, but that he'd close
>> shop in an hour, so I'd better come back early next morning. I said that
>> I'd only need about a quarter of an hour, and he got quite interested.
>>
>> I popped in the DVD (Mandriva Spring 2007) and rebooted the machine.
>> After a mere twelve minutes, the installation of KDE plus the default
>> desktop software selection was done -- and everything worked flawlessly
>> right away: graphics (including 3D acceleration!), sound, networking,
>> attached printer ... no problem at all, no configuration needed.
>> The man was quite impressed. "Gheez! That's quicker and better than
>> Vista!". When I actually logged in and showed him some more, he became
>> even more impressed. "Huh? That's just like Microsoft Office! What? You
>> say it's compatible? And it does PDF's with just one mouse click?
>> Speaking of which ... can this thing read PDF's out-of-the-box? It can?
>> Um, e-mail? MSN? Video editing? Burning DVD's? Sound recording? DTP? Web
>> authoring? WOW! Now /THAT's/ what I call a 3D desktop!! Games? ...
>> In short: he was totally awestruck, also because everything worked
>> perfectly well first go. I only had to disappoint him with regard to the
>> games, as there are not really all that many serious game titles
>> available for Linux -- but the ones I installed, worked just fine.
>>
>> After over an hour of showing off, I was finally allowed to take the
>> machine home -- but I had to leave the Mandriva installation DVD
>> behind :-)
>>
>> And now, after a few days, I can say that everything still works without
>> a hitch, and *very*, *very* fast indeed. Even OpenOffice.org only takes 6
>> seconds to start the first time, and just over 2 seconds after that. Most
>> smaller apps appear virtually instantaneous. The only thing I still miss
>> is my old scanner, because it depends on an old ISA AHA1542 SCSI card,
>> but hey, for ten bucks I can get a second hand PCI SCSI card, so that
>> should be fixed shortly as well. But to all those Wintrolls who say that
>> Linux only works with hardware that's at least three years old: liars!
>>
>> And oh, the price: $250. Plus a DVD copy of Mandriva Spring 2007 :-)
>>
>> Richard Rasker
>> --http://www.linetec.nl/

>
> And this fairytale has been brought to you courtesy of your local
> Linux zealot liar.
> Had you not picked Mandriva as part of your made up story it might
> have been believable, but Mandriva is a disaster
> when it comes to hardware support, especially for the eye candy.
> Do you guys have some kind of a script that churns this pablum out or
> is it done the old fashioned way?
>
> Nice fairytale though. It goes well with a hot bath and a cool brew.
>
> Maybe next time you can tell us about the little compiler that
> couldn't?
>
>
>


 
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      09-10-2007
"jonathan perreault" <> writes:

> actually i believe it, and just in case you don't think that i'm
> gullible, i had a boot cd of linux mandriva that you didn't need to
> install only boot, and it recognised all my hardware which for vista,
> i have to download it from the manufacturor, and it was a beautifull
> picture too, it made me want to install it, but i'm too afraid of
> making vista mad and hiving it think that i have two boot
> configuration and keep me from booting up. thecnology smart: semi-geek


Err, Nurse, more meds for Mr Perreault please.


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      09-10-2007
Hadron wrote:

> "jonathan perreault" <> writes:
>
>> actually i believe it, and just in case you don't think that i'm
>> gullible, i had a boot cd of linux mandriva that you didn't need to
>> install only boot, and it recognised all my hardware which for vista,
>> i have to download it from the manufacturor, and it was a beautifull
>> picture too, it made me want to install it, but i'm too afraid of
>> making vista mad and hiving it think that i have two boot
>> configuration and keep me from booting up. thecnology smart: semi-geek

>
> Err, Nurse, more meds for Mr Perreault please.
>
>


Another fine "true linux advocacy post" from the "true linux
advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile expert", "X
specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server admin", "newsreader magician"
and "hardware maven" Hadron Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka Damian O'Leary

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      09-11-2007
i never needed meds, it's not my fault microsft can't make something that
customers can be happy with, that's why they come out with more and more
viruses every year 2000, xp, vista. and yes windows has passed all the
requirements of what is a virus

--
Jonathan Perreault

Personnal Advice To You:
#1: Do Not Undermine Windows's Work, Or It'll Undermine You As A User.
#2: Torture Windows (Any) Now Before It Tortures You

Best Comments From Users:
No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
"Hadron" <> wrote in message
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> "jonathan perreault" <> writes:
>
>> actually i believe it, and just in case you don't think that i'm
>> gullible, i had a boot cd of linux mandriva that you didn't need to
>> install only boot, and it recognised all my hardware which for vista,
>> i have to download it from the manufacturor, and it was a beautifull
>> picture too, it made me want to install it, but i'm too afraid of
>> making vista mad and hiving it think that i have two boot
>> configuration and keep me from booting up. thecnology smart: semi-geek

>
> Err, Nurse, more meds for Mr Perreault please.
>
>
> --
> Love sometimes expresses itself in sacrifice.
> -- Kirk, "Metamorphosis", stardate 3220.3


 
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jonathan perreault
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      09-11-2007
i'm not sure i understand fully what you said, but it's seems that (from
what i understood) that the reply would be you dam right

--
Jonathan Perreault

Personnal Advice To You:
#1: Do Not Undermine Windows's Work, Or It'll Undermine You As A User.
#2: Torture Windows (Any) Now Before It Tortures You

Best Comments From Users:
No Matter The Problem Even With Linux, It's Microsoft's And Windows's Faults

A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely
foolproof is to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.
"Peter Köhlmann" <> wrote in message
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> Hadron wrote:
>
>> "jonathan perreault" <> writes:
>>
>>> actually i believe it, and just in case you don't think that i'm
>>> gullible, i had a boot cd of linux mandriva that you didn't need to
>>> install only boot, and it recognised all my hardware which for vista,
>>> i have to download it from the manufacturor, and it was a beautifull
>>> picture too, it made me want to install it, but i'm too afraid of
>>> making vista mad and hiving it think that i have two boot
>>> configuration and keep me from booting up. thecnology smart: semi-geek

>>
>> Err, Nurse, more meds for Mr Perreault please.
>>
>>

>
> Another fine "true linux advocacy post" from the "true linux
> advocate", "kernel hacker", "emacs user", "swapfile expert", "X
> specialist", "CUPS guru", "USB-disk server admin", "newsreader magician"
> and "hardware maven" Hadron Quark, aka Hans Schneider, aka Damian O'Leary
>
> --
> Don't abandon hope: your Tom Mix decoder ring arrives tomorrow
>


 
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      09-11-2007
"jonathan perreault" <> writes:

> i never needed meds, it's not my fault microsft can't make something
> that customers can be happy with, that's why they come out with more
> and more viruses every year 2000, xp, vista. and yes windows has
> passed all the requirements of what is a virus


Nurse, less meds for Mr Perreault, a new shift key and a manual on
how to reply to usenet without top posting.

But wait

X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480
X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16480


And he doesn't know how to set it up to bottom post by default!


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