Re: Cloning/imaging to external hard drive.

On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:38:15 -0500, padre wrote:

> I am new to computers and I want to backup my hard drive and I've read a
> number of articles on how to do this but I'm not sure about some of
> this, I own a Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop, with a Vista Home Premium OS. I
> want to know which clone/external hard drive that would work with my
> laptop or an imaging/external hard drive. From what I have read cloning
> doesn't allow you to add files etc. to the ex. hard drive but imaging
> does, is that correct?

Any drive that's large enough and that can plug into your computer (USB or
eSATA) will do.

There are free programs like EASEUS and non-free ones like Casper that will
make clones. If the drive is larger than what you are cloning, you can
partition it so that only the backup partition is cloned - the other one
remains useable for other items.

There are non-free programs like Macrium Reflect and Acronis True Image
that will do what Shenan Stanley hinted at.

The above programs are ones I have used; there are others.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:52:39 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
<not-> wrote:

>On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:38:15 -0500, padre wrote:
>
>> I am new to computers and I want to backup my hard drive and I've read a
>> number of articles on how to do this but I'm not sure about some of
>> this, I own a Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop, with a Vista Home Premium OS. I
>> want to know which clone/external hard drive that would work with my
>> laptop or an imaging/external hard drive. From what I have read cloning
>> doesn't allow you to add files etc. to the ex. hard drive but imaging
>> does, is that correct?
>
>Any drive that's large enough and that can plug into your computer (USB or
>eSATA) will do.
>
>There are free programs like EASEUS and non-free ones like Casper that will
>make clones. If the drive is larger than what you are cloning, you can
>partition it so that only the backup partition is cloned - the other one
>remains useable for other items.
>

There is a Macrium Reflect free ; I use it .


>There are non-free programs like Macrium Reflect and Acronis True Image
>that will do what Shenan Stanley hinted at.
>
>The above programs are ones I have used; there are others.

On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:11:28 +0100, Jim wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:52:39 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> <not-> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:38:15 -0500, padre wrote:
>>
>>> I am new to computers and I want to backup my hard drive and I've read a
>>> number of articles on how to do this but I'm not sure about some of
>>> this, I own a Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop, with a Vista Home Premium OS. I
>>> want to know which clone/external hard drive that would work with my
>>> laptop or an imaging/external hard drive. From what I have read cloning
>>> doesn't allow you to add files etc. to the ex. hard drive but imaging
>>> does, is that correct?
>>
>>Any drive that's large enough and that can plug into your computer (USB or
>>eSATA) will do.
>>
>>There are free programs like EASEUS and non-free ones like Casper that will
>>make clones. If the drive is larger than what you are cloning, you can
>>partition it so that only the backup partition is cloned - the other one
>>remains useable for other items.
>>
>
> There is a Macrium Reflect free ; I use it .

Then you don't do incremental backups :-)

>>There are non-free programs like Macrium Reflect and Acronis True Image
>>that will do what Shenan Stanley hinted at.
>>
>>The above programs are ones I have used; there are others.


--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:11:28 +0100, Jim wrote:

> On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:52:39 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> <not-> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:38:15 -0500, padre wrote:
>>
>>> I am new to computers and I want to backup my hard drive and I've read a
>>> number of articles on how to do this but I'm not sure about some of
>>> this, I own a Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop, with a Vista Home Premium OS. I
>>> want to know which clone/external hard drive that would work with my
>>> laptop or an imaging/external hard drive. From what I have read cloning
>>> doesn't allow you to add files etc. to the ex. hard drive but imaging
>>> does, is that correct?
>>
>>Any drive that's large enough and that can plug into your computer (USB or
>>eSATA) will do.
>>
>>There are free programs like EASEUS and non-free ones like Casper that will
>>make clones. If the drive is larger than what you are cloning, you can
>>partition it so that only the backup partition is cloned - the other one
>>remains useable for other items.
>>
>
> There is a Macrium Reflect free ; I use it .

Then you don't do incremental backups :-)

(By mistake I replied in one of the mirrors, so I am replying again to Ms's
server in the belief that the mirrors don't reflect into Microsoft's
groups).

>>There are non-free programs like Macrium Reflect and Acronis True Image
>>that will do what Shenan Stanley hinted at.
>>
>>The above programs are ones I have used; there are others.


--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 16:08:09 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
<not-> wrote:

>On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:11:28 +0100, Jim wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:52:39 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
>> <not-> wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:38:15 -0500, padre wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am new to computers and I want to backup my hard drive and I've read a
>>>> number of articles on how to do this but I'm not sure about some of
>>>> this, I own a Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop, with a Vista Home Premium OS. I
>>>> want to know which clone/external hard drive that would work with my
>>>> laptop or an imaging/external hard drive. From what I have read cloning
>>>> doesn't allow you to add files etc. to the ex. hard drive but imaging
>>>> does, is that correct?
>>>
>>>Any drive that's large enough and that can plug into your computer (USB or
>>>eSATA) will do.
>>>
>>>There are free programs like EASEUS and non-free ones like Casper that will
>>>make clones. If the drive is larger than what you are cloning, you can
>>>partition it so that only the backup partition is cloned - the other one
>>>remains useable for other items.
>>>
>>
>> There is a Macrium Reflect free ; I use it .
>
>Then you don't do incremental backups :-)

I misread without my glasses on ; thats my story and I`m sticking to
it


>
>(By mistake I replied in one of the mirrors, so I am replying again to Ms's
>server in the belief that the mirrors don't reflect into Microsoft's
>groups).
>
>>>There are non-free programs like Macrium Reflect and Acronis True Image
>>>that will do what Shenan Stanley hinted at.
>>>
>>>The above programs are ones I have used; there are others.


I did an incremental one once , but when I realised you had to do the
main backup plus incremental after format , ( with ATI ) , I decided
to just do complete backup every week with Macrium .

On Sat, 07 Aug 2010 14:31:05 +0100, Jim wrote:

> On Fri, 6 Aug 2010 16:08:09 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
> <not-> wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:11:28 +0100, Jim wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:52:39 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
>>> <not-> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:38:15 -0500, padre wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am new to computers and I want to backup my hard drive and I've read a
>>>>> number of articles on how to do this but I'm not sure about some of
>>>>> this, I own a Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop, with a Vista Home Premium OS. I
>>>>> want to know which clone/external hard drive that would work with my
>>>>> laptop or an imaging/external hard drive. From what I have read cloning
>>>>> doesn't allow you to add files etc. to the ex. hard drive but imaging
>>>>> does, is that correct?
>>>>
>>>>Any drive that's large enough and that can plug into your computer (USB or
>>>>eSATA) will do.
>>>>
>>>>There are free programs like EASEUS and non-free ones like Casper that will
>>>>make clones. If the drive is larger than what you are cloning, you can
>>>>partition it so that only the backup partition is cloned - the other one
>>>>remains useable for other items.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There is a Macrium Reflect free ; I use it .
>>
>>Then you don't do incremental backups :-)
>
> I misread without my glasses on ; thats my story and I`m sticking to
> it

I never post without my glasses on. Or at least my glass (of beer) on (the
desk).


>>
>>(By mistake I replied in one of the mirrors, so I am replying again to Ms's
>>server in the belief that the mirrors don't reflect into Microsoft's
>>groups).

It looks like my Albasani post *was* mirrored on the Microsoft server (it
precedes my repeated post).

I am confused :-)

>>>>There are non-free programs like Macrium Reflect and Acronis True Image
>>>>that will do what Shenan Stanley hinted at.
>>>>
>>>>The above programs are ones I have used; there are others.
>
>
> I did an incremental one once , but when I realised you had to do the
> main backup plus incremental after format , ( with ATI ) , I decided
> to just do complete backup every week with Macrium .

I am not sure what that paragraph means.

The main reason I like the incremental backups is that you can recover an
earlier version of a file, but of course, I don't do the incrementals often
enough to really take advantage of that. And anyway I'm not sure I've ever
actually *needed* an earlier version :-)

I like the quicker time too, but if you do the full backups at bed-time or
when you're doing something else, no one really cares about the longer time
anyway.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)