Re: the company that made ..

On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:08:21 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

> ____/ Doug Mentohl on Friday 04 April 2008 21:58 : \____
>
>> Who is the company that made right-click, email, browsing and typing
>> on your own computer dangerous ..
>
> The problem is the belief that execution of arbitrary code is seen as safe.
> Office macros, ActiveX, E-mail attachments/content executed upon viewing or
> clicking. With a networked environment, binaries can be very easily passed and
> the worst one can do is permit them to run easily, especially with full system
> privileges.
>
> Microsoft would tell you that Windows is easy to use, but with a broken model
> of /mistrust/ it also makes Windows easy for criminals to use (remotely). As
> USA indicated a couple of weeks ago, on an average day, about 40% of the
> world's PCs are zombies. All that needs to be done to make one a zombie is
> simply to plug in the PC to the network socket (the BBC reported on this some
> time ago). That's not just about the execution model, but the underlying
> system, such as a bad TCP/IP stack. Did you know that 2 months ago,
> Microsoft's 'new & shiny' TCP/IP stack allowed Vista to be hijacked merely by
> sending it a properly-crafted TCP/IP packet? Security by 'obscurity'... it
> figures.

So says Roy Schestowitz whose Linux server at www.schestowitz.com was
hacked and owned a couple of weeks ago.


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"Moshe Goldfarb" <> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:08:21 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> ____/ Doug Mentohl on Friday 04 April 2008 21:58 : \____
>>
>>> Who is the company that made right-click, email, browsing and typing
>>> on your own computer dangerous ..
>>
>> The problem is the belief that execution of arbitrary code is seen as
>> safe.
>> Office macros, ActiveX, E-mail attachments/content executed upon viewing
>> or
>> clicking. With a networked environment, binaries can be very easily
>> passed and
>> the worst one can do is permit them to run easily, especially with full
>> system
>> privileges.
>>
>> Microsoft would tell you that Windows is easy to use, but with a broken
>> model
>> of /mistrust/ it also makes Windows easy for criminals to use (remotely).
>> As
>> USA indicated a couple of weeks ago, on an average day, about 40% of the
>> world's PCs are zombies. All that needs to be done to make one a zombie
>> is
>> simply to plug in the PC to the network socket (the BBC reported on this
>> some
>> time ago). That's not just about the execution model, but the underlying
>> system, such as a bad TCP/IP stack. Did you know that 2 months ago,
>> Microsoft's 'new & shiny' TCP/IP stack allowed Vista to be hijacked
>> merely by
>> sending it a properly-crafted TCP/IP packet? Security by 'obscurity'...
>> it
>> figures.
>
> So says Roy Schestowitz whose Linux server at www.schestowitz.com was
> hacked and owned a couple of weeks ago.
>
>
> --
> Moshe Goldfarb
> Collector of soaps from around the globe.
> Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
> http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

Moshe Goldfarb <> writes:

> On Fri, 04 Apr 2008 23:08:21 +0100, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
>> ____/ Doug Mentohl on Friday 04 April 2008 21:58 : \____
>>
>>> Who is the company that made right-click, email, browsing and typing
>>> on your own computer dangerous ..
>>
>> The problem is the belief that execution of arbitrary code is seen as safe.
>> Office macros, ActiveX, E-mail attachments/content executed upon viewing or
>> clicking. With a networked environment, binaries can be very easily passed and
>> the worst one can do is permit them to run easily, especially with full system
>> privileges.

LOL. One has to laugh. Roy makes Spike1 look modest with his
degree. Schestowitz is actually explaining the principal of binary
infection above as if no one else gets it! What a moron!

>>
>> Microsoft would tell you that Windows is easy to use, but with a broken model
>> of /mistrust/ it also makes Windows easy for criminals to use
>> (remotely). As

One has to love the (brackets). What a bore.

>> USA indicated a couple of weeks ago, on an average day, about 40% of the
>> world's PCs are zombies. All that needs to be done to make one a
>> zombie is

Nonsense.

>> simply to plug in the PC to the network socket (the BBC reported on this some
>> time ago). That's not just about the execution model, but the underlying
>> system, such as a bad TCP/IP stack. Did you know that 2 months ago,
>> Microsoft's 'new & shiny' TCP/IP stack allowed Vista to be hijacked merely by
>> sending it a properly-crafted TCP/IP packet? Security by 'obscurity'... it
>> figures.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

>
> So says Roy Schestowitz whose Linux server at www.schestowitz.com was
> hacked and owned a couple of weeks ago.

Twice.

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