Re: A correct "mojave" experiment for Vista

The last time I asked a thief whether he was thief he said he wasn't.
Mike told gerooky that you're trolling and he said he is not.
Interesting. Bash Vista all you like, as long as you are doing it on a
Vista centric forum. Cause if you were to analyze people who use Vista
come here. So your anti-Vista propaganda kinda makes no sense pretty
much like all your posts up until now.


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"gerooky" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find
> themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
> exists."
> Eric Hoffer
>
>
> "iMav" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> The last time I asked a thief whether he was thief he said he wasn't.
>> Mike told gerooky that you're trolling and he said he is not.
>> Interesting. Bash Vista all you like, as long as you are doing it on a
>> Vista centric forum. Cause if you were to analyze people who use Vista
>> come here. So your anti-Vista propaganda kinda makes no sense pretty
>> much like all your posts up until now.
>>
>>
>> --
>> iMav
>>
>> It's a Microsoft world kid, I am just living in it.
>> 'Being Manan' (http://beingmanan.com)
>> 'EverythigMS | Going Beyond Windows' (http://everythingms.com)
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>> View this thread: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22605
>>


Do you have any original material of your own, or do you live by the quotes
of others?


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Mike Hall - MVP wrote:

> "gerooky" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>
>> "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned
>> find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no
>> longer exists."
>> Eric Hoffer
>>
>>
>> "iMav" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>
>>>
>>> The last time I asked a thief whether he was thief he said he wasn't.
>>> Mike told gerooky that you're trolling and he said he is not.
>>> Interesting. Bash Vista all you like, as long as you are doing it on a
>>> Vista centric forum. Cause if you were to analyze people who use Vista
>>> come here. So your anti-Vista propaganda kinda makes no sense pretty
>>> much like all your posts up until now.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> iMav
>>>
>>> It's a Microsoft world kid, I am just living in it.
>>> 'Being Manan' (http://beingmanan.com)
>>> 'EverythigMS | Going Beyond Windows' (http://everythingms.com)
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> iMav's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=35
>>> View this thread: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22605
>>>
>
>
> Do you have any original material of your own, or do you live by the
> quotes of others?
>
>
He is nothing but a help desk google jockey!

"gerooky" <> wrote in message
news:48d7ea1f$...
> Sure, I have even made a trademark out of the following phrase
>
> "If you like Vista, you are stupid!" T. M.
>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
> news:...
>> "gerooky" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned find
>>> themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer
>>> exists."
>>> Eric Hoffer
>>>
>>>
>>> "iMav" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>>
>>>> The last time I asked a thief whether he was thief he said he wasn't.
>>>> Mike told gerooky that you're trolling and he said he is not.
>>>> Interesting. Bash Vista all you like, as long as you are doing it on a
>>>> Vista centric forum. Cause if you were to analyze people who use Vista
>>>> come here. So your anti-Vista propaganda kinda makes no sense pretty
>>>> much like all your posts up until now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> iMav
>>>>
>>>> It's a Microsoft world kid, I am just living in it.
>>>> 'Being Manan' (http://beingmanan.com)
>>>> 'EverythigMS | Going Beyond Windows' (http://everythingms.com)
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> iMav's Profile: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/member.php?userid=35
>>>> View this thread: http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22605
>>>>
>>
>>
>> Do you have any original material of your own, or do you live by the
>> quotes of others?
>>
>>
>> --
>> Mike Hall - MVP
>> How to construct a good post..
>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>
>>
>>
>>


Stick with other peoples quotes.. They have more class than your own.. :-)


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On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:32:46 +0300, gerooky wrote:

> Although I must point out that there is an opposite trickle effect.
>
> I try to remain positive about vista, but almost EVERY simple non geek
> user that has vista keeps asking me why its so bad/slow/incompatible
>
> Its true!
>

Why the hell are they asking you ?

You must be the MOST irritating mudder - fusker walking the planet.
Most people would knock your teeth out before they'd listen to you ramble.

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On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:53:17 +0200 (CEST), "D.Eth" <>
wrote:

>On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:32:46 +0300, gerooky wrote:
>
>> Although I must point out that there is an opposite trickle effect.
>>
>> I try to remain positive about vista, but almost EVERY simple non geek
>> user that has vista keeps asking me why its so bad/slow/incompatible
>>
>> Its true!
>>
>
>Why the hell are they asking you ?
>
>You must be the MOST irritating mudder - fusker walking the planet.
>Most people would knock your teeth out before they'd listen to you ramble.

All some dope like you is capable of is attacking the messenger. Can
you dispute facts with those of your own? Of course not. That's why
you earn the ****wit label. Wear it proudly. You'll be in good
company. Lots of fools hang out in this newsgroup.

On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:02:50 -0500, Ringmaster wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:53:17 +0200 (CEST), "D.Eth" <>
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:32:46 +0300, gerooky wrote:
>>
>>> Although I must point out that there is an opposite trickle effect.
>>>
>>> I try to remain positive about vista, but almost EVERY simple non geek
>>> user that has vista keeps asking me why its so bad/slow/incompatible
>>>
>>> Its true!
>>>
>>>
>>Why the hell are they asking you ?
>>
>>You must be the MOST irritating mudder - fusker walking the planet. Most
>>people would knock your teeth out before they'd listen to you ramble.
>
> All some dope like you is capable of is attacking the messenger. Can you
> dispute facts with those of your own? Of course not. That's why you earn
> the ****wit label. Wear it proudly. You'll be in good company. Lots of
> fools hang out in this newsgroup.


I dispute that it is slow.
It is not slow to me.

People I know like it.

There...proved my side !



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"gerooky" <> wrote in message
news:48d81d21$...
> Although I must point out that there is an opposite trickle effect.
>
> I try to remain positive about vista, but almost EVERY simple non geek
> user that has vista keeps asking me why its so bad/slow/incompatible
>
> Its true!
>
>
>
>
> "gerooky" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> I have better ideas in the past... :-) And I hope I will have better ones
>> in the future.
>>
>> now take a look at this article... its talking about many of the points
>> im trying to make...
>>
>> http://news.cnet.com/8301-13506_3-10...=2547-1_3-0-20
>>
>> Windows Vista has been a tragedy on many levels for Microsoft. First, it
>> was
>> marked with compatibility issues and annoyances with its User Access
>> Control
>> feature that started a firestorm of epic proportions. But once those
>> issues
>> improved, Microsoft ran into an even bigger issue: it wasn't able to
>> satisfy
>> vendors, nor was it able to satisfy the geeks.
>>
>> And that's where the biggest issue with Vista really is. The technology
>> space is looked at by many in the mainstream as a higher-level industry
>> that
>> simply can't be understood by the average person. Software? Hardware?
>> Huh?
>>
>> Because of that, it's the geek that filters opinions and creates a
>> trickle-down effect in the space. Let's face it--if you don't know what
>> you're talking about and you know that your friend does, wouldn't you
>> take
>> their word for it at the least or verify what they're saying at the very
>> most?
>>
>> And when you verify what they're saying, you'll probably end up
>> researching
>> the topic by going to the countless blog posts and articles by experts in
>> the field to decide if your friend is correct, right?
>>
>> And what do you find there? A slew of stories written by geeks, for
>> geeks.
>> And throughout the past year, those stories written by geeks for geeks
>> were
>> littered with criticisms of Vista and countless reasons why the company
>> made
>> mistakes. Sure, there were some sites that came to its defense, but the
>> vast
>> majority of journalists took the opportunity to beat up on the OS.
>>
>> So how did it get to the point where the Mojave Experiment became
>> necessary?
>> How did it get to the point where Microsoft was forced to concede that it
>> was losing the PR game and it needed to tell the world about it?
>>
>> You can blame it on the geeks and the trickle-down effect that makes the
>> technology industry such a unique space.
>>
>> Technology's trickle-down effect is simple: a tech company screws up a
>> product in ways that the tech-savvy crowd will notice, but the mainstream
>> crowd won't. Once that happens, geeks start railing on the product and
>> discuss why it's so bad. Eventually, they start complaining to their
>> family
>> and friends, who don't know much about it and the distaste for products
>> starts entering the mainstream. Once that happens, those people will
>> start
>> talking to others and soon it becomes viral.
>>
>> And that's exactly why Microsoft can't make the same mistake it made with
>> Vista. That operating system didn't appeal to the geeks and they spent
>> the
>> past year telling the world about it. Once that happened, the world
>> started
>> believing it (regardless of whether or not it was true) and Microsoft has
>> paid the price.
>>
>> So what does it need to do with Windows 7? Make sure the geeks love it.
>>
>> But making sure the geeks love it will be difficult. Microsoft isn't one
>> of
>> the most well-liked companies in the space and any chance to beat up on
>> the
>> company will make even the most objective geek happy.
>>
>> Realizing that, Microsoft can't expect to quiet every critic, but it
>> needs
>> to be more proactive in ensuring that more geeks will be happy. First
>> off,
>> it needs to ensure that the geeks' desires are met as effectively as
>> possible: the geeks want better security, more customization, and full
>> compatibility. Secondly, it has to play the right PR game: make Windows 7
>> about the desires of the tech-savvy crowd and stop pretending like that
>> crowd doesn't matter.
>>
>> The one thing I don't understand about Microsoft and countless other
>> companies in the technology industry is why they don't realize that the
>> influential people are not the average John and Jane Doe. Instead, the
>> technology industry is dominated by a select few who tell their friends
>> and
>> family why a certain product or service is useless.
>>
>> And that's exactly why I don't like what I'm hearing already about
>> Windows
>> 7. Microsoft isn't doing enough to appeal to the geeks and it's instead
>> tying its success to the mainstream. From a business standpoint that may
>> make sense--the majority of people are in the mainstream--but from a
>> strategical perspective, the company has it all wrong.
>>
>> Microsoft needs to start leaking information that discusses some of the
>> features that would make the tech-savvy crowd go wild. It doesn't have to
>> be
>> anything special, just enough to start building some hype. After that, it
>> needs to give the niche press unprecedented access to Windows 7 and
>> create a
>> product that appeals to them. And simply by embracing the niche press,
>> Microsoft can start rebuilding its image in that space.
>>
>> The technology industry is unique because it's segmented by a perceived
>> knowledge barrier. Because of that, a select few are looked at as the
>> source
>> for knowledge and thus, provide the general public with the opinions they
>> should be formulating. Apple has realized that--just look at the press
>> coverage--but Microsoft failed to do so with Vista and now needs to
>> repair
>> its image before Windows 7 throws the company into disaster mode.
>>
>> Playing nicely with the mainstream means nothing in this industry unless
>> the
>> niche is happy. And if Microsoft wants Windows 7 to be a success, it
>> better
>> create a product that appeals to that niche and start playing nice with
>> it.
>> If it doesn't, look for Microsoft's PR troubles to continue indefinitely.
>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> "gerooky" <> wrote in message
>>> news:48d7ea1f$...
>>>> Sure, I have even made a trademark out of the following phrase
>>>>
>>>> "If you like Vista, you are stupid!" T. M.
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <mikehall@remove_mvps.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> "gerooky" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:...
>>>>>> "In times of change, learners inherit the earth, while the learned
>>>>>> find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no
>>>>>> longer exists."
>>>>>> Eric Hoffer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "iMav" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The last time I asked a thief whether he was thief he said he
>>>>>>> wasn't.
>>>>>>> Mike told gerooky that you're trolling and he said he is not.
>>>>>>> Interesting. Bash Vista all you like, as long as you are doing it on
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> Vista centric forum. Cause if you were to analyze people who use
>>>>>>> Vista
>>>>>>> come here. So your anti-Vista propaganda kinda makes no sense pretty
>>>>>>> much like all your posts up until now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> iMav
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It's a Microsoft world kid, I am just living in it.
>>>>>>> 'Being Manan' (http://beingmanan.com)
>>>>>>> 'EverythigMS | Going Beyond Windows' (http://everythingms.com)
>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>>>> View this thread:
>>>>>>> http://winvistaclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=22605
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have any original material of your own, or do you live by the
>>>>> quotes of others?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP
>>>>> How to construct a good post..
>>>>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>>>>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/default...help&style=toc
>>>>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stick with other peoples quotes.. They have more class than your own..
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Hall - MVP
>>> How to construct a good post..
>>> http://dts-l.com/goodpost.htm
>>> How to use the Microsoft Product Support Newsgroups..
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>>> Mike's Window - My Blog..
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/default.aspx
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>


But it isn't bad, slow, incompatible anymore. Why not tell them that?


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On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:07:51 +0200 (CEST), "D.Eth" <>
wrote:

>On Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:02:50 -0500, Ringmaster wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 00:53:17 +0200 (CEST), "D.Eth" <>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:32:46 +0300, gerooky wrote:
>>>
>>>> Although I must point out that there is an opposite trickle effect.
>>>>
>>>> I try to remain positive about vista, but almost EVERY simple non geek
>>>> user that has vista keeps asking me why its so bad/slow/incompatible
>>>>
>>>> Its true!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Why the hell are they asking you ?
>>>
>>>You must be the MOST irritating mudder - fusker walking the planet. Most
>>>people would knock your teeth out before they'd listen to you ramble.
>>
>> All some dope like you is capable of is attacking the messenger. Can you
>> dispute facts with those of your own? Of course not. That's why you earn
>> the ****wit label. Wear it proudly. You'll be in good company. Lots of
>> fools hang out in this newsgroup.
>
>
>I dispute that it is slow.
>It is not slow to me.
>
>People I know like it.

You only proved you're an idiot. You only count YOUR results and
ignore results conducted by respected experts and even the testing lab
Microsoft itself used to Test XP verses Vista. Then there are the
millions of users that took the time to post to newsgroups, forums and
blogs all saying Vista sucks performance wise.

Hear me laughing at all you twits?

This is how your think and reason:

http://preaprez.files.wordpress.com/...ee-no-evil.jpg

You don't see what you don't want to see and you don't hear what you
don't want to hear. The very essence of a ****wit.

"gerooky" <> wrote in message
news:48d8247f$...
> You are not the most positive person I have seen in this newsgroup either.
>
> :-) And you have such a charming nick... Deth... wow.. so optimistic! lol
>
>


I am a very positive person.
I just don't like morons that think they know what's best for others...and
using this NG as a platform for their idiotic rantings.

But you gotta do it here, because nowhere else do people listen to you.

Death is very optimistic.
Realist know it is a consequence of life.

It will come to you one day ( soon, hopefully)

>
> "D.Eth" <> wrote in message news:gb97kt$v5k$...
>> On Tue, 23 Sep 2008 01:32:46 +0300, gerooky wrote:
>>
>>> Although I must point out that there is an opposite trickle effect.
>>>
>>> I try to remain positive about vista, but almost EVERY simple non geek
>>> user that has vista keeps asking me why its so bad/slow/incompatible
>>>
>>> Its true!
>>>
>>
>> Why the hell are they asking you ?
>>
>> You must be the MOST irritating mudder - fusker walking the planet.
>> Most people would knock your teeth out before they'd listen to you
>> ramble.
>>
>> --
>> Ens causa sui
>> Fit caedes omnibus locis
>



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