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Re: Does WSR have a speed versus accuracy control like Dragon does?

 
 
andy t
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      09-21-2009


"Mark Conrad" <> wrote in message
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> In article <170920092118293101%>, Mark Conrad
> <> wrote:
> that would be a dictation speed of 270 wpm!
>
>
> Repeated the same test yet again with WSR (Vista speech)
> but this time I only dictated the name for 60 seconds,
> to allow for the fact that WSR is just a consumer app,
> so I did not want to risk overloading its speech buffer.
>
> Speed of dictation still 90 wpm, same as previous tests.
>
> Same result, nothing appeared onscreen until the very end
> when I finished dictating, then all 90 repetitions of the name
> "George Stephanopoulos" jumped onscreen at once.
>
> People, don't take my word for this, do the testing yourself.


I have, ages ago. When I use WSR, I can get at least twice that and I would
not call myself a fast speaker because, I think before I speak as to what I
want to say and that's the truth. My speed from when I first started using
WSR until now, has quadrupled. Of course, I am now using the very best
desktop Mic. you can buy and that helps. AND with the right tools and
training, it is very accurate. I get 99% accuracy now, no problem.

I'm very satisfied with it and prefer it to Dragon. Windows 7 will be out
in October and I cannot wait to get a copy. Some great reviews in there
regarding the improvements with SR.

> So much for the fable that WSR is faster than Dragon,
> when it comes to dumping text onscreen.


That fable is in your head!

Consistantly, grammer, Vitrolic, mistakingly, Dispite, embarassed,
repititions, preceeding.- Spelling mistakes - All dictated by Dragon
Naturally Speaking Medical.

I noticed he did not mention that! What a waste of money.

So much for the fable that Dragon Naturally Speaking Medical can spell all
its words properly, when dictated to the screen.

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      09-22-2009


"Mark Conrad" <> wrote in message
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> In article <eqP#>, andy t
> <speech@dragon_can't_spell_properly.invalid> wrote:



>> > Repeated the same test yet again with WSR (Vista speech)
>> > but this time I only dictated the name for 60 seconds,
>> > to allow for the fact that WSR is just a consumer app,
>> > so I did not want to risk overloading its speech buffer.
>> >
>> > Speed of dictation still 90 wpm, same as previous tests.
>> >
>> > Same result, nothing appeared onscreen until the very end
>> > when I finished dictating, then all 90 repetitions of the name
>> > "George Stephanopoulos" jumped onscreen at once.
>> >
>> > People, don't take my word for this, do the testing yourself.

>>
>> I have, ages ago. When I use WSR, I can get at least twice that
>> and I would not call myself a fast speaker...

>
> Wow! - at least twice the speed of 90 wpm when speaking the
> test name "George Stephanopoulos", that would be 180 wpm.
>
> Hard for me to believe that; in fact, hard for anyone else to
> believe that either, if they tried to speak 180 repetitions of
> "George Stephanopoulos" in 60 seconds!!!


The same reason is hard for me to believe your Dragon tests. You cannot
prove them or disprove my claims.

Believe it, I could go faster if I wanted to using WSR, but I do not dictate
that way and nor do many other people except you, but then you are an
exception to the human race!

>> I think before I speak as to what I
>> want to say and that's the truth.

>
> In that case your sense of logic must be really screwed up,
> else you would not have just posted a disconnected
> sentence like the following:


It was not meant to be a sentence but a list, you senile old illiterate.

>> Consistantly, grammer, Vitrolic, mistakingly, Dispite, embarassed,
>> repititions, preceeding.- Spelling mistakes - All dictated by Dragon
>> Naturally Speaking Medical.


> Shows very flawed "thinking" on your part.
>
> Least you should have done is to identify the context,
> if any, of your babbling.


I believe I got my point across and it did its job.

>> My speed from when I first started using
>> WSR until now, has quadrupled.

>
> Now that I can believe, with experience comes speed,
> up to the point where WSR limits your speed with its
> slow and awkward text correction features.


To be honest, I do not care what you think or believe. It is fast enough
for me, faster than typing and I prefer it to Dragon. Get over it.

>> Of course, I am now using the very best
>> desktop Mic. you can buy and that helps.


> Tsk, tsk, multiple errors there.
> 1) improper capitalization of mic'
> 2) no apostrophe at the end of mic'
> 3) improper use of a period after mic'
> in the middle of a sentence


Lol! Is that the best you can do?

> Good thing you have me looking over your shoulder
> in order to correct your flawed posting.


Yeah! He who professes to know the meaning of déjà vu and whose spelling
using Dragon is atrocious. I'm so glad you're looking over my shoulder.
It's a world of comfort. Lol!

>> Of course, I am now using the very best
>> desktop Mic. you can buy and that helps.

>
> Glad you have that emotional attachment to your mic'.


It is not an emotional attachment; it is just a statement of fact.

> Being more realistic than you, I realize "the very best"
> mic' is a subjective issue which depends entirely on
> what the mic' is being used for, and the conditions
> under which that mic' is being used.


It is not that difficult to understand really but I can see for someone like
you, that everything is difficult to understand.

The Sennheiser 431 ll microphone is designed specifically for speech
recognition. Fact. It is also known worldwide to be the best desktop
microphone on the market. Fact.

http://www.mymsspeech.com/microphone...nnheiser_MD431

http://www.emicrophones.com/docDetai...?DocumentID=36

http://www.speechtechnology.com/micr...vrhandheld.cfm

> For speech recognition, my only concern is whether
> the mic' I use has any effect on my average text accuracy,
> under specified test conditions.
>
> If two different microphones show no detectable difference
> in average text accuracy, then as far as I am concerned
> they are equal to each other, as far as text accuracy
> is concerned.


I have three microphones. All of them have their own characteristic
advantages.

The Sennheiser ME3 headset microphone is extremely accurate and noise
cancelling, mainly because the microphone element is right by the mouth and
therefore cancels out any noise around it. I would say it is on a par with
the MD 431 ll. The only problem for me is that I find headset microphones
uncomfortable to wear and the fact that I cannot take them off physically
because of my disability.

http://www.mymsspeech.com/microphone...asp?subcatID=1

http://www.mymsspeech.com/microphone...nnheiser%20ME3

The Buddy Desktop microphone is also very accurate but not so noise
cancelling. It is very prone to picking up noises around it. Apart from
that, it has the advantage of sitting on a desktop and not taking up much
room.

So you see, there are differences with different microphones and they DO
make a difference to the accuracy of speech recognition, no matter what you
say or what gibberish you spill.

> I hear mixed reviews, some experts such as "Chucker"
> in the Knowbrainer forums claim there is little or no
> difference, unless a user switches to an "all 64 bit OS".


We beg to differ then.

> Myself, I would welcome switching to 64 bits, however
> think I will wait until more drivers are available
> for 64 bit apps.


I do not know enough about 64 bit apps or what it means except to say, that
a 64 bit OS is better for gaming or stuff like that.
Perhaps you could enlighten me on what the advantages of a 64 bit app can
do?

On second thoughts, don't bother. I will probably get a 16 page essay full
of nonsense as usual!

>> > So much for the fable that WSR is faster than Dragon,
>> > when it comes to dumping text onscreen.

>>
>> That fable is in your head!


> Afraid to put it to the test eh - - - figures.


Oh please! Isn't it time for you to grow up? You are an 80 odd year old
man for Christ's sake. Start acting it!

I do not have to and will not pander to your childish tests. How old are
you in the head, 3?

I feel quite sorry for you really. You are quite sad and you must be
lonely. Still, look on the bright side; you still have death to look
forward to!

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      09-22-2009


"Mark Conrad" <> wrote in message
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> In article <eqP#>, andy t
> <speech@dragon_can't_spell_properly.invalid> wrote:


>> So much for the fable that Dragon Naturally Speaking
>> Medical can spell all its words properly,
>> when dictated to the screen.

>
> You have been told repeatedly by me that I _never_ use
> Dragon to write these usenet posts.


Prove it!

You can't. The same way you cannot prove your Dragon speed tests. We have
only your word that it is true and I for one do not believe you!

< SNIP >

BLAH! BLAH! BLAH!

Good grief! Same OT drivel! For your own sanity, go and get some help, you
silly old man!

I notice that when you post in here now, nobody replies anymore because
nobody cares. You are still talking to yourself in a Microsoft forum. Good
luck with the treatment!

Good luck to you and your imaginary friends! Give my regards to Harvey!
LOL!

andy t


 
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      09-22-2009

On 9/22/09, the entity Mark Conrad wrote this:
> Andrew carelessly posted:
> -----------------
> Consistantly, grammer, Vitrolic, mistakingly, Dispite, embarassed,
> repititions, preceeding.- Spelling mistakes - All dictated by Dragon
> Naturally Speaking Medical.
> -----------------


> Then promptly lied by claiming it was not a sentence,
> in this remark:


>> It was not meant to be a sentence but a list, you senile old illiterate.



> Tsk, tsk, don't burst a blood vessel Andrew, getting so upset when
> I correct you, as you constantly need my oversight to
> keep you ontrack.


Well, I had no difficulty in seeing that it was a list and not a
sentence when I read it...

It was rather obviously a list of errors that the program had
generated.

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Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com


 
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      09-23-2009


"Gene E. Bloch" <> wrote in message
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> On 9/22/09, the entity Mark Conrad wrote this:


>> Andrew carelessly posted:
>> -----------------
>> Consistantly, grammer, Vitrolic, mistakingly, Dispite, embarassed,
>> repititions, preceeding.- Spelling mistakes - All dictated by Dragon
>> Naturally Speaking Medical.
>> -----------------

>
>> Then promptly lied by claiming it was not a sentence,
>> in this remark:

>
>>> It was not meant to be a sentence but a list, you senile old illiterate.

>
>
>> Tsk, tsk, don't burst a blood vessel Andrew, getting so upset when
>> I correct you, as you constantly need my oversight to
>> keep you ontrack.

>
> Well, I had no difficulty in seeing that it was a list and not a sentence
> when I read it...
>
> It was rather obviously a list of errors that the program had generated.
>
> --
> Gene Bloch 650.366.4267 lettersatblochg.com


Thank you Gene.

Mark Conrad has difficulty with most things in life and because most people
can see it is patently obvious that it is a list and not a sentence, he will
say black is white just to try and be clever. The problem is, the more he
tries, the worse he becomes.

Most of the things he claims on the screen, is a pack of lies. He proves
nothing!

Quite sad really.

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      09-23-2009


"Mark Conrad" <> wrote in message
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> In article <e#>, andy t
> <speech@dragon_can't_spell_properly.invalid> wrote a confused mess...
>
> Now Andrew, you poor confused useless soul, you
> probably do not know the definition of a list.
>
> I better offer to look over your shoulder and guide you
> to understand the definition of a list, being you are
> still as dumb as a rock.
>
> Mark-

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You sad old sod. <(°|°)>
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Say goodnight to the folks Gracie!

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