Re: Drive Size and Backup

Hi Michael,

What type and size of drives do you have in the server (ide, scsi - raid
level?)

What type of drives are you wanting to backing up to? (USB?) What
application are you using to back up? (SBSBackup, NTbackup, 3rd party?)

What errors are you getting on backup - if using SBSBackup, go to the backup
page of Standard Management, click on the last backup attempt to view the
log file, and copy/paste the text into a reply.

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<> wrote in message
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>I am a total noob to SBS2k3 and could really use some help. I have
> most everything setup and working great...Exchange, OWA, filesharing,
> TrendMicro NeatSuite, etc. I have now run into a couple of real
> problems. First and probably most important I have run out of space on
> the C: drive. When I setup the server I allocated 7GB for the C:
> drive...hindsight 20/20 this was a HUGE mistake. I allocated 20GB for
> a D: drive to hold software and the rest, 250GB, to a shared E: drive.
> I need to enlarge C: but don't have any unallocated space. I would
> be happy to merge C: and D: and that would give me enough room...but I
> don't really know how to go about doing this. While I have
> everything running pretty well it took a great deal of time and tech
> support. I am not sure that I could do it the same again. I also
> haven't got the backup working correctly. I purchased 9 320GB
> external drives and tried to use them as daily backups but I get errors
> constantly.
>
> If anyone can recommend anything to help me here I would greatly
> appreciate it.
>
> Thank you,
>
> michaelb
>

Summary comments: (they are inline as well)

1. Can you specify the present size of c:, d:, and e: please?

2. It's not obvious how your raid container(s) are configured. Can you
elaborate? (ie. 2 drives raid 1 plus 3 drives raid 5; or what?)
3. What exactly is installed on this drive D:? Have you installed actual
"program files" here?

4. Have you actually got Exchange Program Files (the executables) installed
on E:?

5. The good news is that your backups aren't actually failing - they're
perfectly good but chances are you're archiving some viruses with this IMF
quarantine, and you A/V is preventing backup from accessing the files. You
don't have your A/V exclusions set properly, which is going to be a bit of a
messy process as it appears you might have program files scattered
throughout your system :-(.

6. There's not much point in backing up G: at all, if it's only purpose is
to hold backup files.

7. I suspect the error is due to the locked files.

If you've in fact installed program executables (program files) to other
drives, then this is ..... ahem .... a difficult server. 190 GB on e:? Whew,
what is on here? The backup takes like 10 hours to run.


--
Les Connor [SBS Community Member - SBS MVP]
-----------------------------------------------------------
SBS Rocks !
----------------------
"Tell me and I'll forget. Show me and I'll remember. Involve me and I'll
understand." - Confucius


<> wrote in message
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> Thank you for your help...I am excited to get this running correctly.
>
> What type and size of drives do you have in the server (ide, scsi -
> raid
> level?)
>>>>>>>>> RAID 5 with 5 146GB 15k U320 80pin SCSI Seagate HDs...running
>>>>>>>>> 273GB

1. Can you specify the present size of c:, d:, and e: please?
2. It's not obvious how your raid container(s) are configured. Can you
elaborate? (ie. 2 drives raid 1 plus 3 drives raid 5; or what?)

>
> What type of drives are you wanting to backing up to? (USB?) What
> application are you using to back up? (SBSBackup, NTbackup, 3rd party?)
> j
>>>>>>>>> USB 2.0 320GB using SBSBackup
>
> What errors are you getting on backup - if using SBSBackup, go to the
> backup
> page of Standard Management, click on the last backup attempt to view
> the
> log file, and copy/paste the text into a reply.
>>>>>>>>> 11/28/2005 10:00 PM
> -------------------------------
> Date: 11/28/2005
> Time: 10:00 PM
> User: SYSTEM
> -------------------------------
>
> Backup Runner started.
> Launching NTBackup: ntbackup.exe backup "@D:\Program Files\Microsoft
> Windows Small Business Server\Backup\Small Business Backup Script.bks"
> /d "SBS Backup created on 11/28/2005 at 10:00 PM" /v:yes /r:no /rs:no
> /hcff /m normal /j "Small Business Server Backup Job" /l:s /f
> "G:\Backup Files\Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf" /UM
> NTBACKUP LOG FILE: C:\Documents and Settings\SBS Backup User\Local
> Settings\Application Data\Microsoft\Windows
> NT\NTBackup\data\backup07.log
> =====================<BEGIN NTBACKUP LOG FILE>=====================
> Backup Status
> Operation: Backup
> Active backup destination: File
> Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 11/28/2005
> at 10:00 PM"
>
> Volume shadow copy creation: Attempt 1.
> Backup (via shadow copy) of "C: "
> Backup set #1 on media #1
> Backup description: "SBS Backup created on 11/28/2005 at 10:00 PM"
> Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 11/28/2005
> at 10:00 PM"
>
> Backup Type: Normal
>
> Backup started on 11/28/2005 at 10:03 PM.
> Backup completed on 11/28/2005 at 10:17 PM.
> Directories: 2876
> Files: 37021
> Bytes: 4,273,538,136
> Time: 13 minutes and 26 seconds
> Backup (via shadow copy) of "D: PROGRAMS"

3. What exactly is installed on this drive D:? Have you installed actual
"program files" here?

> Backup set #2 on media #1
> Backup description: "SBS Backup created on 11/28/2005 at 10:00 PM"
> Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 11/28/2005
> at 10:00 PM"
>
> Backup Type: Normal
>
> Backup started on 11/28/2005 at 10:17 PM.
> Backup completed on 11/28/2005 at 10:22 PM.
> Directories: 6359
> Files: 18855
> Bytes: 1,859,006,859
> Time: 5 minutes and 35 seconds
> Backup (via shadow copy) of "E: DATA"
> Backup set #3 on media #1
> Backup description: "SBS Backup created on 11/28/2005 at 10:00 PM"
> Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 11/28/2005
> at 10:00 PM"
>
> Backup Type: Normal
>
> Backup started on 11/28/2005 at 10:22 PM.
> Warning: Unable to open "E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\Mailroot\vsi

4. Have you actually got Exchange Program Files (the executables) installed
on E:?

> 1\UceArchive\ARCH_200510181439450317354.EML" - skipped.
> Reason: Access is denied.
> Warning: Unable to open "E:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\Mailroot\vsi
> 1\UceArchive\ARCH_200510181524560246384.EML" - skipped.
> Reason: Access is denied.

5. The good news is that your backups aren't actually failing - they're
perfectly good but chances are you're archiving some viruses with this IMF
quarantine, and you A/V is preventing backup from accessing the files. You
don't have your A/V exclusions set properly, which is going to be a bit of a
messy process as it appears you might have program files scattered
throughout your system :-(.


> Backup completed on 11/29/2005 at 8:17 AM.
> Directories: 10719
> Files: 239577
> Bytes: 190,503,183,240
> Time: 9 hours, 54 minutes, and 27 seconds
> Backup (via shadow copy) of "G: Friday I"

6. There's not much point in backing up G: at all, if it's only purpose is
to hold backup files.

> Backup set #4 on media #1
> Backup description: "SBS Backup created on 11/28/2005 at 10:00 PM"
> Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 11/28/2005
> at 10:00 PM"
>
> Backup Type: Normal
>
> Backup started on 11/29/2005 at 8:17 AM.
> Backup completed on 11/29/2005 at 8:17 AM.
> Directories: 5
> Files: 2
> Bytes: 21,689
> Time: 1 second
> Backup of "SBS2K3-01\Microsoft Information Store\First Storage Group"
> Backup set #5 on media #1
> Backup description: "SBS Backup created on 11/28/2005 at 10:00 PM"
> Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 11/28/2005
> at 10:00 PM"
>
> Backup Type: Normal
>
> Backup started on 11/29/2005 at 8:17 AM.
> Backup completed on 11/29/2005 at 8:47 AM.
> Directories: 4
> Files: 5
> Bytes: 8,725,308,206
> Time: 30 minutes and 4 seconds
> Backup (via shadow copy) of "System State"
> Backup set #6 on media #1
> Backup description: "SBS Backup created on 11/28/2005 at 10:00 PM"
> Media name: "Small Business Server Backup (01).bkf created 11/28/2005
> at 10:00 PM"
>
> Backup Type: Copy
>
> Backup started on 11/29/2005 at 8:47 AM.
> Backup completed on 11/29/2005 at 8:51 AM.
> Directories: 256
> Files: 2785
> Bytes: 597,931,816
> Time: 3 minutes and 44 seconds
>
> ----------------------
>
> Verify Status
> Operation: Verify After Backup
> Active backup destination: File
> Active backup destination: G:\Backup Files\Small Business Server Backup
> (01).bkf
>
> Verify of "C:"
> Backup set #1 on media #1
> Backup description: "SBS Backup created on 11/28/2005 at 10:00 PM"
> Verify started on 11/29/2005 at 8:51 AM.
> Verify completed on 11/29/2005 at 8:55 AM.
> Directories: 2876
> Files: 37021
> Different: 0
> Bytes: 4,273,538,136
> Time: 3 minutes and 59 seconds
>
> Verify of "D:"
> Backup set #2 on media #1
> Backup description: "SBS Backup created on 11/28/2005 at 10:00 PM"
> Verify started on 11/29/2005 at 8:55 AM.
> Verify completed on 11/29/2005 at 8:57 AM.
> Directories: 6359
> Files: 18855
> Different: 0
> Bytes: 1,859,006,859
> Time: 1 minute and 58 seconds
>
> Verify of "E:"
> Backup set #3 on media #1
> Backup description: "SBS Backup created on 11/28/2005 at 10:00 PM"
> Verify started on 11/29/2005 at 8:57 AM.
>
> Error: An inconsistency was encountered in the requested backup file.
> Verify completed on 11/29/2005 at 9:03 AM.
> Directories: 570
> Files: 41754
> Different: 0
> Bytes: 6,515,858,928
> Time: 6 minutes and 15 seconds

7. I suspect the error is due to the locked files.

>
> ----------------------
>
> =======================<END NTBACKUP LOG FILE>=====================
> NTBackup finished the backup with errors.
>
> For more information about failed backups, see the article on
> troubleshooting your backup at the following Web page:
> http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=18414
>
> Backup ended at Tuesday, November 29, 2005 9:03 AM
> Backup Runner finished.
>