Re: Ex-Microsoft Employee: Free Software Will Kill Microsoft

TheBiG wrote:
> http://www.osnews.com/story/21543/Ex...Kill_Microsoft
>
>
>
> * Ex-Microsoft Employee: Free Software Will Kill Microsoft
> posted by Thom Holwerda on Fri 22nd May 2009 13:58 UTC, submitted by
> shaneco
> IconKeith Curtis worked at Microsoft for 11 years, coding on Windows,
> Office, and at Microsoft's research department, before leaving the
> Redmond giant. Call it a revelation, call it giving in to the devil's
> temptations, but he's now a complete open source and Linux advocate, and
> in his new book, "After the Software Wars", he explains why open source
> will prevail against Microsoft's proprietary model.
>
> Curtis never actually used Linux until 2004, when he left Microsoft.
> Over the years, he turned into a Linux advocate, and now claims that
> thanks to the proprietary software model, we are living in "the dark
> ages of computing." This is what is scientifically known as doing a
> complete 180 (no, not a 360).
>
> In an interview with CIO, he explains why the open source model will
> ultimately lead to Microsoft's demise. First, he argues that the open
> source model leads to better code. He points to Firefox and the Linux
> kernel as examples of open source delivering greater quality than the
> proprietary model. Secondly, he also states that open source undermines
> Microsoft's profit margins.
>
> He further argues that while open source may not have made tremendous
> gains just yet in the desktop market, it is doing very well in other
> segments of the computing market. "Google has hundreds of thousands of
> machines running Linux," he explains, "Free software is well on its way
> to conquering the small and the large, and the remaining challenge is
> the desktop in the middle."
>
> It would be hard for Microsoft to adapt to the open source model. Sure,
> Microsoft could open source its products, but who would care? For
> instance, if they were to open source Internet Explorer, no one would
> care because Webkit and Gecko already exist. "If Microsoft, 20 years
> ago, built Windows in an open way, Linux wouldn't exist, and millions of
> programmers would be improving it rather than competing with it," he
> says, "However, I think it is too late for that now."
>
> So, does he believe that there are other ways for Microsoft to compete
> with open source? "Other than adopting Linux, there is little Microsoft
> can do," he starts, "Even if they did embrace it, not only would it hurt
> their profit margins, they'd be forced to explain to customers why they
> should continue to pay for Office if the company believes the free
> OpenOffice is good enough."
>
> It sure is an interesting view on the debate, especially coming from
> someone who worked at Microsoft for so long. Personally, I don't think
> of open source destroying proprietary - I see open source and
> proprietary competing with one another, so that we, consumers, end up
> with better products. Open source made Microsoft improve both its server
> and desktop offerings on the operating system front, and even when it
> comes to Office, Microsoft has made tremendous steps forward that
> wouldn't have been made without open source breathing down their necks.
>
> At the same time, the continuous comparisons drawn up between
> proprietary products and their open source counterparts also serve as a
> carrot for open source developers to work even harder to improve their
> code and products.
>
> It's a win-win situation for us consumers, people. And now I want to
> wash my mouth with soap for saying "win-win situation".

Excellent post. Too bad the Windbots here like Frank and the Nymshifter
won't understand it and will do their usual low life song and dance of
lies, insults, animals sex, profanity and drivel.

Alias

measekite Da Monkey wrote:
> "Alias" <> wrote in message
> news:gvn6g1$h5f$...
>> TheBiG wrote:
>>> http://www.osnews.com/story/21543/Ex...Kill_Microsoft *
>>> Ex-Microsoft Employee: Free Software Will Kill Microsoft
>>> posted by Thom Holwerda on Fri 22nd May 2009 13:58 UTC, submitted by
>>> shaneco
>>> IconKeith Curtis worked at Microsoft for 11 years, coding on Windows,
>>> Office, and at Microsoft's research department, before leaving the
>>> Redmond giant. Call it a revelation, call it giving in to the devil's
>>> temptations, but he's now a complete open source and Linux advocate, and
>>> in his new book, "After the Software Wars", he explains why open source
>>> will prevail against Microsoft's proprietary model.
>>>
>>> Curtis never actually used Linux until 2004, when he left Microsoft. Over
>>> the years, he turned into a Linux advocate, and now claims that thanks to
>>> the proprietary software model, we are living in "the dark ages of
>>> computing." This is what is scientifically known as doing a complete 180
>>> (no, not a 360).
>>>
>>> In an interview with CIO, he explains why the open source model will
>>> ultimately lead to Microsoft's demise. First, he argues that the open
>>> source model leads to better code. He points to Firefox and the Linux
>>> kernel as examples of open source delivering greater quality than the
>>> proprietary model. Secondly, he also states that open source undermines
>>> Microsoft's profit margins.
>>>
>>> He further argues that while open source may not have made tremendous
>>> gains just yet in the desktop market, it is doing very well in other
>>> segments of the computing market. "Google has hundreds of thousands of
>>> machines running Linux," he explains, "Free software is well on its way
>>> to conquering the small and the large, and the remaining challenge is the
>>> desktop in the middle."
>>>
>>> It would be hard for Microsoft to adapt to the open source model. Sure,
>>> Microsoft could open source its products, but who would care? For
>>> instance, if they were to open source Internet Explorer, no one would
>>> care because Webkit and Gecko already exist. "If Microsoft, 20 years ago,
>>> built Windows in an open way, Linux wouldn't exist, and millions of
>>> programmers would be improving it rather than competing with it," he
>>> says, "However, I think it is too late for that now."
>>>
>>> So, does he believe that there are other ways for Microsoft to compete
>>> with open source? "Other than adopting Linux, there is little Microsoft
>>> can do," he starts, "Even if they did embrace it, not only would it hurt
>>> their profit margins, they'd be forced to explain to customers why they
>>> should continue to pay for Office if the company believes the free
>>> OpenOffice is good enough."
>>>
>>> It sure is an interesting view on the debate, especially coming from
>>> someone who worked at Microsoft for so long. Personally, I don't think of
>>> open source destroying proprietary - I see open source and proprietary
>>> competing with one another, so that we, consumers, end up with better
>>> products. Open source made Microsoft improve both its server and desktop
>>> offerings on the operating system front, and even when it comes to
>>> Office, Microsoft has made tremendous steps forward that wouldn't have
>>> been made without open source breathing down their necks.
>>>
>>> At the same time, the continuous comparisons drawn up between proprietary
>>> products and their open source counterparts also serve as a carrot for
>>> open source developers to work even harder to improve their code and
>>> products.
>>>
>>> It's a win-win situation for us consumers, people. And now I want to wash
>>> my mouth with soap for saying "win-win situation".
>> Excellent post. Too bad the Windbots here like Frank and the Nymshifter
>> won't understand it and will do their usual low life song and dance of
>> lies, insults, animals sex, profanity and drivel.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Of course you would think the above lies constitute an excellent post. You
> can jump up and down all day long about your Open Sores software, but
> Microsoft will be here many years to come.

That's what AOL said.

Alias

measekite Da Monkey wrote:
> "Alias" <> wrote in message
> news:gvn9ho$aql$...
>> measekite Da Monkey wrote:
>>> "Alias" <> wrote in message
>>> news:gvn6g1$h5f$...
>>>> TheBiG wrote:
>>>>> http://www.osnews.com/story/21543/Ex...Kill_Microsoft *
>>>>> Ex-Microsoft Employee: Free Software Will Kill Microsoft
>>>>> posted by Thom Holwerda on Fri 22nd May 2009 13:58 UTC, submitted by
>>>>> shaneco
>>>>> IconKeith Curtis worked at Microsoft for 11 years, coding on Windows,
>>>>> Office, and at Microsoft's research department, before leaving the
>>>>> Redmond giant. Call it a revelation, call it giving in to the devil's
>>>>> temptations, but he's now a complete open source and Linux advocate,
>>>>> and in his new book, "After the Software Wars", he explains why open
>>>>> source will prevail against Microsoft's proprietary model.
>>>>>
>>>>> Curtis never actually used Linux until 2004, when he left Microsoft.
>>>>> Over the years, he turned into a Linux advocate, and now claims that
>>>>> thanks to the proprietary software model, we are living in "the dark
>>>>> ages of computing." This is what is scientifically known as doing a
>>>>> complete 180 (no, not a 360).
>>>>>
>>>>> In an interview with CIO, he explains why the open source model will
>>>>> ultimately lead to Microsoft's demise. First, he argues that the open
>>>>> source model leads to better code. He points to Firefox and the Linux
>>>>> kernel as examples of open source delivering greater quality than the
>>>>> proprietary model. Secondly, he also states that open source undermines
>>>>> Microsoft's profit margins.
>>>>>
>>>>> He further argues that while open source may not have made tremendous
>>>>> gains just yet in the desktop market, it is doing very well in other
>>>>> segments of the computing market. "Google has hundreds of thousands of
>>>>> machines running Linux," he explains, "Free software is well on its way
>>>>> to conquering the small and the large, and the remaining challenge is
>>>>> the desktop in the middle."
>>>>>
>>>>> It would be hard for Microsoft to adapt to the open source model. Sure,
>>>>> Microsoft could open source its products, but who would care? For
>>>>> instance, if they were to open source Internet Explorer, no one would
>>>>> care because Webkit and Gecko already exist. "If Microsoft, 20 years
>>>>> ago, built Windows in an open way, Linux wouldn't exist, and millions
>>>>> of programmers would be improving it rather than competing with it," he
>>>>> says, "However, I think it is too late for that now."
>>>>>
>>>>> So, does he believe that there are other ways for Microsoft to compete
>>>>> with open source? "Other than adopting Linux, there is little Microsoft
>>>>> can do," he starts, "Even if they did embrace it, not only would it
>>>>> hurt their profit margins, they'd be forced to explain to customers why
>>>>> they should continue to pay for Office if the company believes the free
>>>>> OpenOffice is good enough."
>>>>>
>>>>> It sure is an interesting view on the debate, especially coming from
>>>>> someone who worked at Microsoft for so long. Personally, I don't think
>>>>> of open source destroying proprietary - I see open source and
>>>>> proprietary competing with one another, so that we, consumers, end up
>>>>> with better products. Open source made Microsoft improve both its
>>>>> server and desktop offerings on the operating system front, and even
>>>>> when it comes to Office, Microsoft has made tremendous steps forward
>>>>> that wouldn't have been made without open source breathing down their
>>>>> necks.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the same time, the continuous comparisons drawn up between
>>>>> proprietary products and their open source counterparts also serve as a
>>>>> carrot for open source developers to work even harder to improve their
>>>>> code and products.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a win-win situation for us consumers, people. And now I want to
>>>>> wash my mouth with soap for saying "win-win situation".
>>>> Excellent post. Too bad the Windbots here like Frank and the Nymshifter
>>>> won't understand it and will do their usual low life song and dance of
>>>> lies, insults, animals sex, profanity and drivel.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>> Of course you would think the above lies constitute an excellent post.
>>> You can jump up and down all day long about your Open Sores software, but
>>> Microsoft will be here many years to come.
>> That's what AOL said.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Yes, I believe you are correct. AOL said that Microsoft will be here for
> many years to come and Open Sores software is crap.
>
>

Are you really that stupid? It appears so.

Alias

measekite Da Monkey wrote:
> "Alias" <> wrote in message
> news:gvotpt$bd5$...
>> measekite Da Monkey wrote:
>>> "Alias" <> wrote in message
>>> news:gvn9ho$aql$...
>>>> measekite Da Monkey wrote:
>>>>> "Alias" <> wrote in message Of course you
>>>>> would think the above lies constitute an excellent post. You can jump
>>>>> up and down all day long about your Open Sores software, but Microsoft
>>>>> will be here many years to come.
>>>> That's what AOL said.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>> Yes, I believe you are correct. AOL said that Microsoft will be here for
>>> many years to come and Open Sores software is crap.
>> Are you really that stupid? It appears so.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Nope. AOL did say that Microsoft will be here for a long time and that Open
> Sores software is just a blip on the radar. You are the stupid one. You
> are lost. This is the Vista group. Nobody here wants to hear about Ubuntu.
> If they did, they would go over to the Ubuntu forums where they talk about
> Ubuntu. What a concept. A forum that deals with the topic at hand.
>
> Alias is lost. Very lost.
>
>
>

Yep, you really are that stupid. Try taking English lessons and
concentrate on understand content. Microsoft is history. Vista killed
Windows and Google/Open Office are killing Office. Live with it and try
to get the **** over it.

Alias

measekite Da Monkey wrote:
> "Alias" <> wrote in message
> news:gvoul9$fmc$...
>> measekite Da Monkey wrote:
>>> "Alias" <> wrote in message
>>> news:gvotpt$bd5$...
>>>> measekite Da Monkey wrote:
>>>>> "Alias" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:gvn9ho$aql$...
>>>>>> measekite Da Monkey wrote:
>>>>>>> "Alias" <> wrote in message Of course you
>>>>>>> would think the above lies constitute an excellent post. You can jump
>>>>>>> up and down all day long about your Open Sores software, but
>>>>>>> Microsoft will be here many years to come.
>>>>>> That's what AOL said.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>> Yes, I believe you are correct. AOL said that Microsoft will be here
>>>>> for many years to come and Open Sores software is crap.
>>>> Are you really that stupid? It appears so.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>> Nope. AOL did say that Microsoft will be here for a long time and that
>>> Open Sores software is just a blip on the radar. You are the stupid one.
>>> You are lost. This is the Vista group. Nobody here wants to hear about
>>> Ubuntu. If they did, they would go over to the Ubuntu forums where they
>>> talk about Ubuntu. What a concept. A forum that deals with the topic at
>>> hand.
>>>
>>> Alias is lost. Very lost.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Yep, you really are that stupid. Try taking English lessons and
>> concentrate on understand content. Microsoft is history. Vista killed
>> Windows and Google/Open Office are killing Office. Live with it and try to
>> get the **** over it.
>>
>> Alias
>
> Microsoft is making billions of dollars yearly.

So is the Cocaine Cartel and the mob. BFD.

> You think they are history?

I know it.

> If so, I would love to be Microsoft. Look at the numbers, Microsoft has
> sold millions of copies of Vista and Office. Open Sores Office is used by
> a fraction of the users out there. Microsoft will be around for many many
> years to come. They may lose some market share but if they do, it won't
> much. On the other hand, Ubuntu is FREE and still NOBODY wants it. Ubuntu
> is on less than one percent of the desktops out there.
>
> Imagine a FREE OS and Office Suite that NOBODY wants. That should tell you
> all you need to know about Ubuntu and Open Sores Office. Word of mouth just
> isn't doing it. Live with it and try to get the **** over it. HA HA HA.
>
>
>

GM used to have even better numbers as did Pan AM, TWA, Studebaker,
Enron, et al. Mark my words, MS is history and they will have no one to
blame but themselves.

Now shouldn't you be defragging your C drive or updating the myriads of
anti malware programs you need to keep Windows safe?

Alias

measekite Da Monkey wrote:

>
> I don't get malware or viruses on my PC.

Keep telling yourself that.

Alias

measekite Da Monkey wrote:
> "Alias" <> wrote in message
> news:gvp1vk$e5b$...
>> measekite Da Monkey wrote:
>>
>>> I don't get malware or viruses on my PC.
>> Keep telling yourself that.
>>
>> Alias
>
> I don't have to. My PC is just fine and secure. You wouldn't know a virus
> if it knocked on your door an introduced itself.
>
>
>

I know that anti virus programs can only detect those viruses in their
definitions and that they virus programs are *always* lag behind. You're
probably infected and don't even know it.

Alias

Frank wrote:
> Alias wrote:
>> measekite Da Monkey wrote:
>>> "Alias" <> wrote in message
>>> news:gvoul9$fmc$...
>>>> measekite Da Monkey wrote:
>>>>> "Alias" <> wrote in message
>>>>> news:gvotpt$bd5$...
>>>>>> measekite Da Monkey wrote:
>>>>>>> "Alias" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:gvn9ho$aql$...
>>>>>>>> measekite Da Monkey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> "Alias" <> wrote in message Of course
>>>>>>>>> you would think the above lies constitute an excellent post.
>>>>>>>>> You can jump up and down all day long about your Open Sores
>>>>>>>>> software, but Microsoft will be here many years to come.
>>>>>>>> That's what AOL said.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>> Yes, I believe you are correct. AOL said that Microsoft will be
>>>>>>> here for many years to come and Open Sores software is crap.
>>>>>> Are you really that stupid? It appears so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>> Nope. AOL did say that Microsoft will be here for a long time and
>>>>> that Open Sores software is just a blip on the radar. You are the
>>>>> stupid one. You are lost. This is the Vista group. Nobody here
>>>>> wants to hear about Ubuntu. If they did, they would go over to the
>>>>> Ubuntu forums where they talk about Ubuntu. What a concept. A
>>>>> forum that deals with the topic at hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias is lost. Very lost.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yep, you really are that stupid. Try taking English lessons and
>>>> concentrate on understand content. Microsoft is history. Vista
>>>> killed Windows and Google/Open Office are killing Office. Live with
>>>> it and try to get the **** over it.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>
>>> Microsoft is making billions of dollars yearly.
>>
>> So is the Cocaine Cartel and the mob. BFD.
>>
>>> You think they are history?
>>
>> I know it.
>>
>>> If so, I would love to be Microsoft. Look at the numbers, Microsoft
>>> has sold millions of copies of Vista and Office. Open Sores Office
>>> is used by a fraction of the users out there. Microsoft will be
>>> around for many many years to come. They may lose some market share
>>> but if they do, it won't much. On the other hand, Ubuntu is FREE and
>>> still NOBODY wants it. Ubuntu is on less than one percent of the
>>> desktops out there.
>>>
>>> Imagine a FREE OS and Office Suite that NOBODY wants. That should
>>> tell you all you need to know about Ubuntu and Open Sores Office.
>>> Word of mouth just isn't doing it. Live with it and try to get the
>>> **** over it. HA HA HA.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> GM used to have even better numbers as did Pan AM, TWA, Studebaker,
>> Enron, et al. Mark my words, MS is history and they will have no one
>> to blame but themselves.
>>
>> Now shouldn't you be defragging your C drive or updating the myriads
>> of anti malware programs you need to keep Windows safe?
>>
>> Alias
>
> hehehe...you are BROKE aren't you?...LOL!
> Figures!

You'd like that but, once again, you're wrong, Frank.

Alias

On Fri, 29 May 2009 02:16:55 +0200, Alias <>
wrote:

>> Of course you would think the above lies constitute an excellent post. You
>> can jump up and down all day long about your Open Sores software, but
>> Microsoft will be here many years to come.
>
>That's what AOL said.
>
>Alias

He, he, he... MonkeyShines and Fat-Franky right on que.

TheBiG wrote:
> Frank wrote:
>> Alias wrote:
>>> measekite Da Monkey wrote:
>>>> "Alias" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:gvn6g1$h5f$...
>>>>> TheBiG wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.osnews.com/story/21543/Ex...Kill_Microsoft
>>>>>> * Ex-Microsoft Employee: Free Software Will Kill Microsoft
>>>>>> posted by Thom Holwerda on Fri 22nd May 2009 13:58 UTC, submitted
>>>>>> by shaneco
>>>>>> IconKeith Curtis worked at Microsoft for 11 years, coding on
>>>>>> Windows, Office, and at Microsoft's research department, before
>>>>>> leaving the Redmond giant. Call it a revelation, call it giving in
>>>>>> to the devil's temptations, but he's now a complete open source
>>>>>> and Linux advocate, and in his new book, "After the Software
>>>>>> Wars", he explains why open source will prevail against
>>>>>> Microsoft's proprietary model.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Curtis never actually used Linux until 2004, when he left
>>>>>> Microsoft. Over the years, he turned into a Linux advocate, and
>>>>>> now claims that thanks to the proprietary software model, we are
>>>>>> living in "the dark ages of computing." This is what is
>>>>>> scientifically known as doing a complete 180 (no, not a 360).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In an interview with CIO, he explains why the open source model
>>>>>> will ultimately lead to Microsoft's demise. First, he argues that
>>>>>> the open source model leads to better code. He points to Firefox
>>>>>> and the Linux kernel as examples of open source delivering greater
>>>>>> quality than the proprietary model. Secondly, he also states that
>>>>>> open source undermines Microsoft's profit margins.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He further argues that while open source may not have made
>>>>>> tremendous gains just yet in the desktop market, it is doing very
>>>>>> well in other segments of the computing market. "Google has
>>>>>> hundreds of thousands of machines running Linux," he explains,
>>>>>> "Free software is well on its way to conquering the small and the
>>>>>> large, and the remaining challenge is the desktop in the middle."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It would be hard for Microsoft to adapt to the open source model.
>>>>>> Sure, Microsoft could open source its products, but who would
>>>>>> care? For instance, if they were to open source Internet Explorer,
>>>>>> no one would care because Webkit and Gecko already exist. "If
>>>>>> Microsoft, 20 years ago, built Windows in an open way, Linux
>>>>>> wouldn't exist, and millions of programmers would be improving it
>>>>>> rather than competing with it," he says, "However, I think it is
>>>>>> too late for that now."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, does he believe that there are other ways for Microsoft to
>>>>>> compete with open source? "Other than adopting Linux, there is
>>>>>> little Microsoft can do," he starts, "Even if they did embrace it,
>>>>>> not only would it hurt their profit margins, they'd be forced to
>>>>>> explain to customers why they should continue to pay for Office if
>>>>>> the company believes the free OpenOffice is good enough."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It sure is an interesting view on the debate, especially coming
>>>>>> from someone who worked at Microsoft for so long. Personally, I
>>>>>> don't think of open source destroying proprietary - I see open
>>>>>> source and proprietary competing with one another, so that we,
>>>>>> consumers, end up with better products. Open source made Microsoft
>>>>>> improve both its server and desktop offerings on the operating
>>>>>> system front, and even when it comes to Office, Microsoft has made
>>>>>> tremendous steps forward that wouldn't have been made without open
>>>>>> source breathing down their necks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At the same time, the continuous comparisons drawn up between
>>>>>> proprietary products and their open source counterparts also serve
>>>>>> as a carrot for open source developers to work even harder to
>>>>>> improve their code and products.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's a win-win situation for us consumers, people. And now I want
>>>>>> to wash my mouth with soap for saying "win-win situation".
>>>>> Excellent post. Too bad the Windbots here like Frank and the
>>>>> Nymshifter won't understand it and will do their usual low life
>>>>> song and dance of lies, insults, animals sex, profanity and drivel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alias
>>>>
>>>> Of course you would think the above lies constitute an excellent
>>>> post. You can jump up and down all day long about your Open Sores
>>>> software, but Microsoft will be here many years to come.
>>>
>>> That's what AOL said.
>>>
>>> Alias
>>
>> hehehe...no wonder you're one broke POS loser...LOL!
>
>
> so is that wny microsoft is secretly still using linux for many of their
> web based services? because they are poor? or because they tried using
> windows server and it was a nightmare..???
>

You have some kind of proof here to back it up?