Re: Game Crazy Site Login Trouble--Visual Basic--C++--Vista 64-bit?

"GTS" <> wrote in message
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> The item you uninstalled was probably a VB or VC++ runtime library (an no,
> these are not the same). These are usually installed as part of a program
> installation for a program that requires it. A repair Windows
> reinstallation will not solve your problem because they are not
> automatically installed by Vista. Such runtime libraries can generally be
> downloaded from Microsoft, but you would need to know which you need.
>
> It would be very unusual for a Web site to use a VB or VC library function
> to handle a log on. I doubt that that is the cause of the problem. It is
> quite possible, of course, that the library removal will have broken some
> program. Pursuing it with gamescrazy is the best course of action.

I've added this reply into the crosspost that includes 'vista.general'. I
would like to think what GTS says makes some sense and that this is some
weird isolated issue with GameCrazy and not caused by removing a runtime
library. As far as what I _did_ remove I recall that it definitely had
"C++" in its name so maybe "VC++" is all I might replace.

I don't believe VC++ was originally installed by Vista 64-bit but I'm not
certain either. And if it wasn't then Repair/Update Windows seems like a
real shot in the dark. No doubt I may some day discover what progrma I have
installed needs this now uninstalled library but there is just as good a
chance that that program was removed and that this library was a remnant
left behind. One thing for certain is the very sloppy and incomplete
uninstalls that the industry still lets everyone get by with. With all the
remnanta left and my poor and sometimes misguided attempts to keep my system
_clean_ I wouldn't be surprised if GameCrazy suggests I do a clean install
before they spend any time troubleshooting their end further. I already
know that they aren't aware of any problems and that of the friends I know
that access GameCrazy, they aren't having this problem and so far this
(GameCrazy site) is the only site I am having any problem with. Everyone
would bet that it was IE8 causing the problem but I installed Firefox and it
behaves similarly to GameCrazy except it at least gives some text clues as
to what it is struggling with. The bottom status line cycles, "Transferring
data from static.gamecrazy.com..." and very briefly "Waiting for
static.gamecrazy.com".

> "Susan" <> wrote in message
> news:E1D59FBF-7A99-4D62-8860-...
>> The other day I found in Programs and Features a one line entry that read
>> something like VB or Visual Basic C++. Because I thought it made no
>> sense
>> having it installed since I don't use Visual Basic or C++ (are they one
>> in
>> the same), don't remember ever installing it, and am not aware of
>> anything
>> that needs it, I removed/uninstalled it with no objections from anything.
>>
>> Then, I attempted to log into a website I haven't been on in a long long
>> time, GameCrazy.com and discovered that the lonon screen got bogged down
>> and
>> I could not log in and this happens with IE8 and Firefox both--latest
>> Vista
>> Ultimate 64-bit installs and all updates current. I removed my security
>> and
>> that made no difference.
>>
>> To investigate/resolve the problem further I would love to reinstall what
>> I
>> removed if I only knew what it was and what exactly to reinstall and
>> where to
>> get it of course?
>>
>> On the other hand you may no that this wasn't the problem and know
>> something
>> else that is causing it. Can anyone help me get this website login
>> problem
>> resolved?
>>
>> I'm sending similar email to Game Crazy. If it affected other boards I
>> frequent I might have been aware sooner. Thank you.
>> --
>> ~Susan~

This is still an open issue but I've learned a couple things. First of all
Game Crazy is showing some signs it is interested in my login problem.
Secondly, I successfully logged into Game Crazy from a local library
computer and I've shared this with them. It looks like Game Crazy's login
pop up page does not contend properly with my computers configuration that
is common to Firefox and IE 8. Maybe 64-bit Vista? Or some common pluggin
or apps I removed that nothing took ownership of like whatever this Visual
Basic and/or C++ stuff was? To date nothing has been fixed.

This turns out to be an issue with my wireless N router or still possible,
an issue with not being able to clear the DNS cache?

"Susan" <> wrote in message
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> This is still an open issue but I've learned a couple things. First of
> all Game Crazy is showing some signs it is interested in my login problem.
> Secondly, I successfully logged into Game Crazy from a local library
> computer and I've shared this with them. It looks like Game Crazy's login
> pop up page does not contend properly with my computers configuration that
> is common to Firefox and IE 8. Maybe 64-bit Vista? Or some common
> pluggin or apps I removed that nothing took ownership of like whatever
> this Visual Basic and/or C++ stuff was? To date nothing has been fixed.

I'm moving this discussion to 'windows.vista.networking_sharing' in a new
thread there. The application I uninstalled and have now found and
reinstalled was 'Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable (x64)'. Although
it seems that I should not have removed this file there remains no reason
why it was installed. I will leave it in place now though. It had no
apparent bearing on why I could not complete login to 'gamecrazy.com' or
complete my account access to 'consumerreports.org'. But it is definitely a
Netgear-N router issue now.

"Susan" <> wrote in message
news:...
> This turns out to be an issue with my wireless N router or still possible,
> an issue with not being able to clear the DNS cache?
>
> "Susan" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> This is still an open issue but I've learned a couple things. First of
>> all Game Crazy is showing some signs it is interested in my login
>> problem. Secondly, I successfully logged into Game Crazy from a local
>> library computer and I've shared this with them. It looks like Game
>> Crazy's login pop up page does not contend properly with my computers
>> configuration that is common to Firefox and IE 8. Maybe 64-bit Vista?
>> Or some common pluggin or apps I removed that nothing took ownership of
>> like whatever this Visual Basic and/or C++ stuff was? To date nothing
>> has been fixed.

Final new discovery here... In the course of removing Windows Live
Essentials and a couple related programs, none of which I was using, (Maybe
I will when I migrate to Windows 7 next year with a clean install) I
discovered that it does require 'Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable
(x64)'. I left the later in place because who knows what else might use it
too...

"Susan" <> wrote in message
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> I'm moving this discussion to 'windows.vista.networking_sharing' in a new
> thread there. The application I uninstalled and have now found and
> reinstalled was 'Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 Redistributable (x64)'.
> Although it seems that I should not have removed this file there remains
> no reason why it was installed. I will leave it in place now though. It
> had no apparent bearing on why I could not complete login to
> 'gamecrazy.com' or complete my account access to 'consumerreports.org'.
> But it is definitely a Netgear-N router issue now.