Re: Google Chrome OS: Too little, too early

There's no such thing as 'the cloud'. It's just someone else's servers
rather than your own. If you want to store all your private / sensitive
stuff and business plans on someone else's machines, be my guest, but don't
be surprised if they are always one up on you.

Saucy



"Elemental" <> wrote in message
news:4a58ff08$...
> Frank wrote:
>> Enjoy! I know I did!...LOL!
>>
>> http://www.betanews.com/article/Goog...rly/1247156757
>
> So you are an ignorant fool and you dont understand the potential of the
> cloud....
>
> Why am I not surprised?
>
> Oh... because perhaps you are one of the stupidest people alive on earth

Nevertheless, there's no cloud - just other people's servers instead of your
own (and other people's backdoors to your data as well). In other words,
your living like business and investors did on the November 22, 1929. A day
or two later they were jumping off ledges.

Saucy


"Elemental" <> wrote in message
news:4a59035b$...
> Saucy wrote:
>> There's no such thing as 'the cloud'. It's just someone else's servers
>> rather than your own. If you want to store all your private / sensitive
>> stuff and business plans on someone else's machines, be my guest, but
>> don't be surprised if they are always one up on you.
>>
>> Saucy
>>
>>
>>
>> "Elemental" <> wrote in message
>> news:4a58ff08$...
>>> Frank wrote:
>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!...LOL!
>>>>
>>>> http://www.betanews.com/article/Goog...rly/1247156757
>>>
>>> So you are an ignorant fool and you dont understand the potential of the
>>> cloud....
>>>
>>> Why am I not surprised?
>>>
>>> Oh... because perhaps you are one of the stupidest people alive on earth
>>
>
>
> So you are unaware of the vast amount of corporate data that is being
> stored on others peoples servers, encrypted and guaranteed that data will
> never be lost huh? Millions are being made each day out of this ... lol
>
>
> The cloud is decentralized computing.. people wont care about location any
> more you idiot.. but expandability, flexibility and capabilities...
>
> Its already happening, because I work with latest technologies.. you seem
> to be still living in the 90's!
>
>
> GESH THIS NEWSGROUP IS FULL OF IGNORANT BASTARDS, and king of them all is
> Frank!

What they are saying and what is real can be two entirely different things.
There is no cloud, -hello- .

Saucy


"Elemental" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Saucy wrote:
>> Nevertheless, there's no cloud - just other people's servers instead of
>> your own (and other people's backdoors to your data as well). In other
>> words, your living like business and investors did on the November 22,
>> 1929. A day or two later they were jumping off ledges.
>>
>> Saucy
>>
>>
>> "Elemental" <> wrote in message
>> news:4a59035b$...
>>> Saucy wrote:
>>>> There's no such thing as 'the cloud'. It's just someone else's servers
>>>> rather than your own. If you want to store all your private / sensitive
>>>> stuff and business plans on someone else's machines, be my guest, but
>>>> don't be surprised if they are always one up on you.
>>>>
>>>> Saucy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Elemental" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:4a58ff08$...
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!...LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.betanews.com/article/Goog...rly/1247156757
>>>>>
>>>>> So you are an ignorant fool and you dont understand the potential of
>>>>> the cloud....
>>>>>
>>>>> Why am I not surprised?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh... because perhaps you are one of the stupidest people alive on
>>>>> earth
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So you are unaware of the vast amount of corporate data that is being
>>> stored on others peoples servers, encrypted and guaranteed that data
>>> will never be lost huh? Millions are being made each day out of this ...
>>> lol
>>>
>>>
>>> The cloud is decentralized computing.. people wont care about location
>>> any more you idiot.. but expandability, flexibility and capabilities...
>>>
>>> Its already happening, because I work with latest technologies.. you
>>> seem to be still living in the 90's!
>>>
>>>
>>> GESH THIS NEWSGROUP IS FULL OF IGNORANT BASTARDS, and king of them all
>>> is Frank!
>>
>
> There you go again.. you cant grasp it. You dont care where the data is
> anymore.. thats the point. You can forget about that.... You are still
> thinking in terms of the 90s!
>
> The cloud model is so dynamic that it will take technology to the next
> level... it also will enable more people to contribute in technology in
> more ways than ever before...
>
> We are coming closer to what is called the singularity, where distance and
> location does not matter at all...
>
> If you dont believe me, see what the biggest minds of technology are
> saying, even people in Microsoft! You will see they are saying the EXACT
> same thing.
>
>
>

On Sun, 12 Jul 2009 01:01:15 +0300, Elemental <>
wrote:

>There you go again.. you cant grasp it.

He grasps it just fine. It's you who can't see through the "cloud" to
the actual technology behind it.

> You dont care where the data is
>anymore.. thats the point. You can forget about that.... You are still
>thinking in terms of the 90s!

Yes, we do care, Because when the data is on my machine, I only have
to worry about security in one physical location. If it's on someone
else's server, it's transitioning th network, it's stored on someone
else's server, it's in someone else's physical location - the possible
holes grow exponentially.
>
>The cloud model is so dynamic that it will take technology to the next
>level... it also will enable more people to contribute in technology in
>more ways than ever before...
>
>We are coming closer to what is called the singularity, where distance
>and location does not matter at all...
>
>If you dont believe me, see what the biggest minds of technology are
>saying, even people in Microsoft! You will see they are saying the EXACT
>same thing.

All MS cares about is getting to where they can LEASE you software by
the minute and prevent illegal copying. It was nothing to do with
advancing technology, it has to do with profit. Wake up and smell the
coffee.

In my humble opinion, I think that it's a right assumption for companies and
individuals to concern about their sensitive data.

It's not uncommon for companies to restrict employees from accessing to
Internet or installing/removing software and hardware devices (e.g. USB
memory sticks), so putting sensitive data to a 3rd party service provider,
even like IBM's data centers, may arise even more concerns

The concept and technology might also be possible for an Intranet
environment (thinking the world as a one big Intranet environment for
multinationals) and "others" could be branches, operation centers,
facilities, etc. located at different continents/countries, and doesn't have
to be a 3rd party service provider.

I am not sure where cloud computing will be heading to, just that we don't
need to limit our minds to apply concepts and technologies



"Elemental" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Saucy wrote:
>> Nevertheless, there's no cloud - just other people's servers instead of
>> your own (and other people's backdoors to your data as well). In other
>> words, your living like business and investors did on the November 22,
>> 1929. A day or two later they were jumping off ledges.
>>
>> Saucy
>>
>>
>> "Elemental" <> wrote in message
>> news:4a59035b$...
>>> Saucy wrote:
>>>> There's no such thing as 'the cloud'. It's just someone else's servers
>>>> rather than your own. If you want to store all your private / sensitive
>>>> stuff and business plans on someone else's machines, be my guest, but
>>>> don't be surprised if they are always one up on you.
>>>>
>>>> Saucy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Elemental" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:4a58ff08$...
>>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>>> Enjoy! I know I did!...LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.betanews.com/article/Goog...rly/1247156757
>>>>>
>>>>> So you are an ignorant fool and you dont understand the potential of
>>>>> the cloud....
>>>>>
>>>>> Why am I not surprised?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh... because perhaps you are one of the stupidest people alive on
>>>>> earth
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So you are unaware of the vast amount of corporate data that is being
>>> stored on others peoples servers, encrypted and guaranteed that data
>>> will never be lost huh? Millions are being made each day out of this ...
>>> lol
>>>
>>>
>>> The cloud is decentralized computing.. people wont care about location
>>> any more you idiot.. but expandability, flexibility and capabilities...
>>>
>>> Its already happening, because I work with latest technologies.. you
>>> seem to be still living in the 90's!
>>>
>>>
>>> GESH THIS NEWSGROUP IS FULL OF IGNORANT BASTARDS, and king of them all
>>> is Frank!
>>
>
> There you go again.. you cant grasp it. You dont care where the data is
> anymore.. thats the point. You can forget about that.... You are still
> thinking in terms of the 90s!
>
> The cloud model is so dynamic that it will take technology to the next
> level... it also will enable more people to contribute in technology in
> more ways than ever before...
>
> We are coming closer to what is called the singularity, where distance and
> location does not matter at all...
>
> If you dont believe me, see what the biggest minds of technology are
> saying, even people in Microsoft! You will see they are saying the EXACT
> same thing.
>
>
>

xfile wrote:
> In my humble opinion, I think that it's a right assumption for companies
> and individuals to concern about their sensitive data.
>
> It's not uncommon for companies to restrict employees from accessing to
> Internet or installing/removing software and hardware devices (e.g. USB
> memory sticks), so putting sensitive data to a 3rd party service
> provider, even like IBM's data centers, may arise even more concerns
>
> The concept and technology might also be possible for an Intranet
> environment (thinking the world as a one big Intranet environment for
> multinationals) and "others" could be branches, operation centers,
> facilities, etc. located at different continents/countries, and doesn't
> have to be a 3rd party service provider.
>
> I am not sure where cloud computing will be heading to, just that we
> don't need to limit our minds to apply concepts and technologies

Security will have to get a lot better than it is now. Data centers have
been hacked recently, compromising many, many, people's personal data.
Some have been inside jobs, some haven't. What's worse, YOUR/OUR
personal data is being put on loosely secured external, (Cloud if you
will), servers, WITHOUT any regard to YOUR/OUR wishes. We are ALL
vulnerable right now, period.
No, I don't see "Cloud" computing being universally adopted any time
soon, without super strict, tight, failsafe, security. ..Which so far,
has been proven NOT to be the case.

G'day

Muad'Dib wrote:

>
> Security will have to get a lot better than it is now. Data centers have
> been hacked recently, compromising many, many, people's personal data.
> Some have been inside jobs, some haven't. What's worse, YOUR/OUR
> personal data is being put on loosely secured external, (Cloud if you
> will), servers, WITHOUT any regard to YOUR/OUR wishes. We are ALL
> vulnerable right now, period.
> No, I don't see "Cloud" computing being universally adopted any time
> soon, without super strict, tight, failsafe, security. ..Which so far,
> has been proven NOT to be the case.
>
> G'day

Not just secure, but with a strong backup and recovery strategy. No
good entrusting ones data to a secure "cloud" system if that system has
no robust backup strategy in place.

--
Jane, not plain 64 bit enabled :-)
Batteries not included. Braincell on vacation ;-)
MVP - Windows Desktop Experience 2007-2009

Jane C wrote:
> Muad'Dib wrote:
>
>>
>> Security will have to get a lot better than it is now. Data centers
>> have been hacked recently, compromising many, many, people's personal
>> data. Some have been inside jobs, some haven't. What's worse, YOUR/OUR
>> personal data is being put on loosely secured external, (Cloud if you
>> will), servers, WITHOUT any regard to YOUR/OUR wishes. We are ALL
>> vulnerable right now, period.
>> No, I don't see "Cloud" computing being universally adopted any time
>> soon, without super strict, tight, failsafe, security. ..Which so far,
>> has been proven NOT to be the case.
>>
>> G'day
>
> Not just secure, but with a strong backup and recovery strategy. No
> good entrusting ones data to a secure "cloud" system if that system has
> no robust backup strategy in place.
>

Agreed! Absolutely!

Security will remain as the foremost important consideration for serious
business (or even individuals) to deploying new technologies.

Even with a strong or world-class backup/recovery strategy, as pointed out
by Jane C., it's only good for restoring lost/damaged data but can't never
compensate the loss of misused data. So, security will be the first issue
to address.

At the same time, I also believe that there are many intelligent and
experienced professionals in all functional fields who would strive to come
out a better solution. So, I would let them do their job.

As for me, I always like new concepts, models, and technologies, so I will
be cautiously optimistic.



"Muad'Dib" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Jane C wrote:
>> Muad'Dib wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Security will have to get a lot better than it is now. Data centers have
>>> been hacked recently, compromising many, many, people's personal data.
>>> Some have been inside jobs, some haven't. What's worse, YOUR/OUR
>>> personal data is being put on loosely secured external, (Cloud if you
>>> will), servers, WITHOUT any regard to YOUR/OUR wishes. We are ALL
>>> vulnerable right now, period.
>>> No, I don't see "Cloud" computing being universally adopted any time
>>> soon, without super strict, tight, failsafe, security. ..Which so far,
>>> has been proven NOT to be the case.
>>>
>>> G'day
>>
>> Not just secure, but with a strong backup and recovery strategy. No good
>> entrusting ones data to a secure "cloud" system if that system has no
>> robust backup strategy in place.
>>
>
> Agreed! Absolutely!

"Frank" <> wrote in message news:4a597837$...