Re: Will IE6 run under Win7?

> Re ongoing problems with operation of "Favorites" in IE7/IE8

What ongoing problems with Favorites and how many friggin' new threads are
you going to start about this, anyway?

> Is it possible to load IE6 on Win7?

No.

> How about Win7/64-bit?

What about it? Is it a Win7 64-bit computer?

Bob wrote:
> Re ongoing problems with operation of "Favorites" in IE7/IE8: I'm
> trying to get a Win7 system running with a browser that I can use. Is
> it possible to load IE6 on Win7? How about Win7/64-bit?
>
> Seems doubtful, but I've got to jump on a plane with a laptop soon,
> and I'm clutching at straws. I'd love to have a talk with the MS
> programmer who did the 'Favorites' code.

Hi Bob,

Get your favorites (Internet Shortcuts) off your hard disk and stored in a
relational database instead of distributed amongst a myriad of machines and
platforms on disconnected networks and incompatible browsers. A web search
engine is just a big database of shortcuts and meta data.

From there your developers should be able to create a web interface for all
of your users to share your links. Sharepoint may be an ideal server
platform for this. An Addon interface to allow uses to add links online is
easy to create (see Addthis.com).

The science search engine scirus.com may be able to assist your company to
do this.

I had to quote for a Pharmaceutical company that wanted to distribute
shortcuts to their website in a secure manner (viz. limit access). They
eventually gave up on the tender once they realized the complexity of the
task. (they were looking to distribute them on a USB give-away that only the
recipient could use. ). What a WOTAM. Leave the technical stuff to your
experts and save your Marketing Gurus the embarrassment.

I web search for "biological research collaboration" yields some interesting
results. Anti-viral research? The world leader has their factory just down
the road from me. It has the only micro-gravity tower in the southern
hemisphere.

Regards.

Regards.

"Bob" <> wrote in message
news:...
> On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 19:06:17 -0500, "PA Bear [MS MVP]"
> <> wrote:
>
>>> Re ongoing problems with operation of "Favorites" in IE7/IE8
>>
>>What ongoing problems with Favorites and how many friggin' new threads are
>>you going to start about this, anyway?
>
> A little irritable today, eh? They're different "friggin'" questions:
> IE7/8, Favorites location, IE6 under Win7. And if you had read the
> other threads, you'd know "what ongoing problems."
>
> If your problem is that they're all related to trouble with handling
> of Favorites in IE7/8, then talk to the MS developers rather than
> taking it on already-frustrated users. And if I had known that I was
> going to hit any dead-ends, I would have known how to word the first
> query and header, but I didn't know that then.
>
> So let's get back to something more practical: IE7 and IE8 have known
> problems in that they open the entire folder tree for Favorites when
> anyone attempts to add a new entry. As a 'user experience' this is as
> incomprehensible as opening an entire drive tree when you click on "My
> Computer."
>
> My goal is to have something minimally usable with the bioresearch
> systems that have literally -thousands- of entries and folders sorted
> and categorized under Favorites. It's amazing to see IE trying to open
> the whole damn tree. And then we have to scroll through the hideous
> mile-long thing rather then just having a nice normal folder
> structure.
>
>>> Is it possible to load IE6 on Win7?
>>
>>No.
>>
>>> How about Win7/64-bit?
>>
>>What about it? Is it a Win7 64-bit computer?
>
> "What about it?" If you are so irritated by a question relating to
> something retarded that MS did, then why bother to answer?
>
> If you do want to be civil, then here: There are many development
> systems here, some of which have the extensive Favorites folders that
> have been compiled since the days of IE6. We've dealt by keeping
> XP/IE6 on those machines. Development is done on separate workstations
> under various Windows versions including both 32-bit and 64-bit Win7.
>
> I've set up a laptop system for an upcoming trip + demos in two days,
> including full development tools for Azure (I'm a C# programmer). Now
> I've come to realize that I need to load the bioinformatics links, so
> I'm probably screwed. I -can- load Win7-32 in place of Win7-64 that's
> currently loaded, but the Azure Development tools will not work on XP.
> You think -you- are frustrated, eh?
>
> PS: ^Rob^ did take the time to provide a courtous solution in a
> workaround, but I haven't got the hang of that process yet, so I'm
> trying to make sure everything is covered before I jump on the plane.
> (Thanks again, Rob. <g>)
>
>>Bob wrote:
>>> Re ongoing problems with operation of "Favorites" in IE7/IE8: I'm
>>> trying to get a Win7 system running with a browser that I can use. Is
>>> it possible to load IE6 on Win7? How about Win7/64-bit?
>>>
>>> Seems doubtful, but I've got to jump on a plane with a laptop soon,
>>> and I'm clutching at straws. I'd love to have a talk with the MS
>>> programmer who did the 'Favorites' code.
>

Bob wrote:

> PA Bear wrote:
>
>>> Re ongoing problems with operation of "Favorites" in IE7/IE8
>>
>> What ongoing problems with Favorites and how many friggin' new threads
>> are you going to start about this, anyway?
>
> A little irritable today, eh? They're different "friggin'" questions:
> IE7/8, Favorites location, IE6 under Win7.

Reread your post. Notice that you used a colon to separate the sentences
yet that was an incorrect use of the colon. You did NOT ask 2 different
questions. Fact is, you didn't ask but one question: Can IE6 run on Windows
7 (and notice the proper use of the colon). Don't make potential
respondents have to guess at what you meant to say versus having to decipher
through what you actually said.

> And if you had read the other threads, you'd know "what ongoing problems."

Since you did not actually define what problems that *YOU* have then you
obviously didn't want help with them. It was a waste of space in your post
to even mention the unidentified problems.

Have you actually delineated every complaint or suggestion for enhancement
regarding the Favorites handling in IE8 to know exactly WHAT was this
compendium of "problems" that apparently hits you in every case? If you
have ALL those Favorite problems then there is something severely wrong with
your computer or, more likely, its user (PEBCAK).

> So let's get back to something more practical: IE7 and IE8 have known
> problems in that they open the entire folder tree for Favorites when
> anyone attempts to add a new entry. As a 'user experience' this is as
> incomprehensible as opening an entire drive tree when you click on "My
> Computer."

Ah, finally an actually stated behavior that you don't care for. So why use
the Favorites list? Instead use the Favorites pane. You can use the pin
icon (upper right corner of pane) to keep it open if you want, or just click
on the star icon when you want to see it. Then open whatever folders you
want and keep track of your navigation there. You can even drag in the icon
from the Address Bar to a folder when you want to add a favorite shortcut
there. If a folder has subfolders, and just like what happens in Windows
Explorer, a momemtary pause of hovering the dragged mouse cursor over a
folder will automatically expand it so you can drag the shortcut to a
subfolder.

If you don't like the Favorites list then don't use it. Use the Favorites
pane instead.

> My goal is to have something minimally usable

Since the Favorites list is usable then it is also minimally usable. Again
you wander off into the undefined.

> It's amazing

Correction: frustrating (not amazing)

> to see IE trying to open the whole damn tree. And then we have to scroll
> through the hideous mile-long thing rather then just having a nice normal
> folder structure.

So don't scroll. Hit the first letter of the folder under which you want
navigate. If you have, say, a folder named BioResearch and a subfolder
named Microbiology then hitting B and then M would get you to that folder
right away. If the BioResearch folder also had a MacularRegeneration
subfolder but you wanted to get to the MicroBiology subfolder, you would hit
B followed by hitting M twice (once to move focus to the MacularRegeneration
subfolder and then again to move to the MicroBiology subfolder).

Depending on just how big is the hierarchy of folders in the Favorites list,
using the first-character keyboard shortcut might be faster than having to
scroll through the all-expanded list. Of course, using the Favorites *pane*
might give you the type of historical navigation that you prefer.

>>> Is it possible to load IE6 on Win7?
>>
>> No.
>>
>>> How about Win7/64-bit?
>>
>> What about it? Is it a Win7 64-bit computer?
>
> "What about it?" If you are so irritated by a question relating to
> something retarded that MS did, then why bother to answer?

You ask if IE6 will load on Win7. Then you ask if IE6 will run on Win7. It
looks like you asked the same question twice. The 2nd one included "64-bit"
but you never bothered to say that the 1st one was for 32- or 64-bit. Stop
asking questions that only you understand the implied conditions. Others
can only go by what you actually say and then decipher through it.
Hopefully you are old enough to realize there is a difference between the
questions you compose internally to ask yourself versus how you phrase those
same questions when you externalize them to ask someone OTHER than yourself.

Bob wrote:
>>> Re ongoing problems with operation of "Favorites" in IE7/IE8
>>
>> What ongoing problems with Favorites and how many friggin' new threads
>> are
>> you going to start about this, anyway?
>
> A little irritable today, eh? They're different "friggin'" questions:
> IE7/8, Favorites location, IE6 under Win7. And if you had read the
> other threads, you'd know "what ongoing problems."
>
> If your problem is that they're all related to trouble with handling
> of Favorites in IE7/8, then talk to the MS developers rather than
> taking it on already-frustrated users.

No, my problem is you starting multiple threads about the same problem and
trying to keep track of who said what (about what) and to whom.

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