Re: IE8 automatic update on Vista Home Premium

[crossposted to vista.mail]

Welcome to the Club! :-( :-(
IMO it's rather not an issue with protection software but just the nasty
IE8-WinMail bug which affects many systems after installing IE8. There's
tons of reports in endless threads in vista.mail.

The only remedy known so far is uninstalling IE8. You may try
re-installing IE8 under the precautions suggested by PA Bear but I
seriously doubt that the problem will not re-appear.

If you could live with the state of JPG and TXT files not being opened
from WinMail directly but need saving and then opening, whereas other
file types (especially Office files) will open fine, you might try the
following workaround:

In the properties of the LNK/shortcut in the Start Menu used for
launching WinMail per default the path for running WinMail is set to
"C:\Program Files\Windows Mail".
If this is changed to a destination with full writing permissions, all
files I tested (especially all of Office) except JPG and TXT can be
opened.

- Right-click on the shortcut fir WinMail;
- in the context menu select "Properties";
- open the tabbed page "Link";
- in the field labeled "Start in:" replace the current entry by
"%UserProfile%".
- click the OK button.

HTH
Rainald
P.S. If you stay with IE7 disable (hide) the update for IE8 in the
"Windows Updates" applet.


ChasSmash wrote:

> Thanks for the response.
>
> I am using Windows Live One Care. Subscription is good for another 6
> months.
>
> No third party firewall unless you count what is running from One
> Care. It looks and reacts the same as the firewall from Vista. Should
> it be treated like any other 3rd party firewall?
>
> Norton or McAfee have not been on this machine since I loaded Vista
> onto it. I formatted the disk then installed Vista.
>
> I do not use toolbars at all.
>
> So, if I download IE8 from the website, close IE7 and the start the
> installation, this may solve the problem with email attachments?
>
>
> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>
>> [Crossposted to IE General newsgroup]
>>
>>> After the auto download of IE8 I could no longer open any
>>> attachments through Windows Mail.
>>
>> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your
>> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware
>> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if
>> any)? Were any of these applications running in the background when
>> you installed IE8? (See recommendations below.)
>>
>> Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this
>> machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you
>> bought it)?
>>
>>> Everything works as normal but my Windows update wants to load IE8
>>> again stating it is an important security update.
>>
>> See
>>
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...n-control.aspx.
>> IE8 will not install without your approval. You can "hide" IE8 by
>> running Windows Update manually and unchecking it.
>>
>> No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and
>> usage (only) is available via the phone based on your locale through
>> 31 December 2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows
>> Vista in a non-domain environment.
>> => US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
>> => Other locales:
>> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...px?&prid=13043
>>
>> My personal recommendations include:
>>
>> => Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!!
>>
>> => Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows
>> Live) and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.
>>
>> => Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon)
>> before installing or uninstalling IE8.
>>
>> => I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application
>> and any anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than
>> Defender's) before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If
>> you're running a third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling
>> it and then enabling the Windows Firewall before installing (or
>> uninstalling) an IE upgrade.
>>
>> => Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8.
>>
>> => Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8.
>>
>> => For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your
>> anti-virus application, any anti-spyware applications (other than
>> Defender), and your third-party firewall (if any) are supported in
>> IE8 Final before you decide install it.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>>
>>
>> ChasSmash wrote:
>>> After the auto download of IE8 I could no longer open any
>>> attachments through Windows Mail. I went through email support and
>>> got 2 potential fixes to try of which neither worked. I tried a few
>>> other tricks under the OPTIONS in Windows Mail and those worked
>>> temporarily. After reading several
>>> blogs on the subject "COMMAND FAILED TO EXECUTE", which is the
>>> error I got while trying to open attachments, I removed the update
>>> and went back to IE7. Everything works as normal but my Windows
>>> update wants to load IE8 again stating it is an important security
>>> update. Has this problem been addressed? The tech I was emailing
>>> didn't seem to acknowledge it and advised me to contact IE8
>>> support. Is there a fix for this?

Maybe this will help someone here. I wonder if Microsoft has updated the
Microsoft .NET Framework for Vista further (making sure I get the one for my
version of Windows - Windows update usually installs it but sometimes if I
have that sort of problem that's what I go looking for if it's a 'failed to
execute error' and that's after of course checking my security settings first
or the software program provider. There's three important updates I keep
updated for those "Commands failed to execute" errors. Firstly is the
Microsoft .NET Framework which is the 'Command to Execute' program for all
Microsoft software. Secondly, I go to Adobe and type in "test my Macromedia
Flash Player" search engine, and it will test it and automatically tell me if
I need an update. Windows doesn't up date the Flash Player automatically, so
I keep it up to date because that keeps the functioning speed up on my
computer and faster internet browsing. I also do the same for my Shockwave
Player; these two programs are part of the bones in any computer.

When I had a problem with the email like everyone else, I went to my System
Restore and uninstalled the last update by choosing a former 'installed
Windows Update'; sometimes updates or files that are downloaded get corrupted
in the lines without you knowing it, and when I did that, and then let it do
the automatic updates, everything went through fine, and I'm using Vista Home
Premium and IE8 and it's seems to be working in Windows Mail too fine. I have
another update wanting to install, but if it causes a problem, I'll just do a
"System Restore" before this update. I'm surprised Microsoft is updating to
Internet Explorer 8, I thought IE* was still in the beta condition. Don't
like the way it was slipped in on us. I avoided it just as suggested here
till they get the bugs worked out. Those are excellent advice given here.
Well hope this has helped someone here in some way...When updating things,
always read the instructions carefully and get the right version for your
computer for any software updates or upgrades...
Tiffany

"Rainald Taesler" wrote:

> [crossposted to vista.mail]
>
> Welcome to the Club! :-( :-(
> IMO it's rather not an issue with protection software but just the nasty
> IE8-WinMail bug which affects many systems after installing IE8. There's
> tons of reports in endless threads in vista.mail.
>
> The only remedy known so far is uninstalling IE8. You may try
> re-installing IE8 under the precautions suggested by PA Bear but I
> seriously doubt that the problem will not re-appear.
>
> If you could live with the state of JPG and TXT files not being opened
> from WinMail directly but need saving and then opening, whereas other
> file types (especially Office files) will open fine, you might try the
> following workaround:
>
> In the properties of the LNK/shortcut in the Start Menu used for
> launching WinMail per default the path for running WinMail is set to
> "C:\Program Files\Windows Mail".
> If this is changed to a destination with full writing permissions, all
> files I tested (especially all of Office) except JPG and TXT can be
> opened.
>
> - Right-click on the shortcut fir WinMail;
> - in the context menu select "Properties";
> - open the tabbed page "Link";
> - in the field labeled "Start in:" replace the current entry by
> "%UserProfile%".
> - click the OK button.
>
> HTH
> Rainald
> P.S. If you stay with IE7 disable (hide) the update for IE8 in the
> "Windows Updates" applet.
>
>
> ChasSmash wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the response.
> >
> > I am using Windows Live One Care. Subscription is good for another 6
> > months.
> >
> > No third party firewall unless you count what is running from One
> > Care. It looks and reacts the same as the firewall from Vista. Should
> > it be treated like any other 3rd party firewall?
> >
> > Norton or McAfee have not been on this machine since I loaded Vista
> > onto it. I formatted the disk then installed Vista.
> >
> > I do not use toolbars at all.
> >
> > So, if I download IE8 from the website, close IE7 and the start the
> > installation, this may solve the problem with email attachments?
> >
> >
> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> [Crossposted to IE General newsgroup]
> >>
> >>> After the auto download of IE8 I could no longer open any
> >>> attachments through Windows Mail.
> >>
> >> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your
> >> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware
> >> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if
> >> any)? Were any of these applications running in the background when
> >> you installed IE8? (See recommendations below.)
> >>
> >> Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this
> >> machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you
> >> bought it)?
> >>
> >>> Everything works as normal but my Windows update wants to load IE8
> >>> again stating it is an important security update.
> >>
> >> See
> >>
> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...n-control.aspx.
> >> IE8 will not install without your approval. You can "hide" IE8 by
> >> running Windows Update manually and unchecking it.
> >>
> >> No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and
> >> usage (only) is available via the phone based on your locale through
> >> 31 December 2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows
> >> Vista in a non-domain environment.
> >> => US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
> >> => Other locales:
> >> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...px?&prid=13043
> >>
> >> My personal recommendations include:
> >>
> >> => Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!!
> >>
> >> => Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows
> >> Live) and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.
> >>
> >> => Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon)
> >> before installing or uninstalling IE8.
> >>
> >> => I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application
> >> and any anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than
> >> Defender's) before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If
> >> you're running a third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling
> >> it and then enabling the Windows Firewall before installing (or
> >> uninstalling) an IE upgrade.
> >>
> >> => Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8.
> >>
> >> => Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8.
> >>
> >> => For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your
> >> anti-virus application, any anti-spyware applications (other than
> >> Defender), and your third-party firewall (if any) are supported in
> >> IE8 Final before you decide install it.
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
> >>
> >>
> >> ChasSmash wrote:
> >>> After the auto download of IE8 I could no longer open any
> >>> attachments through Windows Mail. I went through email support and
> >>> got 2 potential fixes to try of which neither worked. I tried a few
> >>> other tricks under the OPTIONS in Windows Mail and those worked
> >>> temporarily. After reading several
> >>> blogs on the subject "COMMAND FAILED TO EXECUTE", which is the
> >>> error I got while trying to open attachments, I removed the update
> >>> and went back to IE7. Everything works as normal but my Windows
> >>> update wants to load IE8 again stating it is an important security
> >>> update. Has this problem been addressed? The tech I was emailing
> >>> didn't seem to acknowledge it and advised me to contact IE8
> >>> support. Is there a fix for this?
>
>
>

Sure, if you use a computer to play games and for other entertainment such
as that, then those "two programs are part of the bones in" your computer
but they are more like ornaments for many other people. The Macromedia
Flash Player is often used to create obnoxious and irritating commercials
that have in the past caused me to remove it entirely in my computer. My
computer was still completely functional for me without the Macromedia
Flash Player. It is used for some stuff I want to see so I re-installed it
but sometimes I get close to uninstalling it again.


"tshoop7" <> wrote in message
news:A0670965-952D-4007-92DD-...
> Maybe this will help someone here. I wonder if Microsoft has updated the
> Microsoft .NET Framework for Vista further (making sure I get the one for
> my
> version of Windows - Windows update usually installs it but sometimes if I
> have that sort of problem that's what I go looking for if it's a 'failed
> to
> execute error' and that's after of course checking my security settings
> first
> or the software program provider. There's three important updates I keep
> updated for those "Commands failed to execute" errors. Firstly is the
> Microsoft .NET Framework which is the 'Command to Execute' program for all
> Microsoft software. Secondly, I go to Adobe and type in "test my
> Macromedia
> Flash Player" search engine, and it will test it and automatically tell me
> if
> I need an update. Windows doesn't up date the Flash Player automatically,
> so
> I keep it up to date because that keeps the functioning speed up on my
> computer and faster internet browsing. I also do the same for my
> Shockwave
> Player; these two programs are part of the bones in any computer.
>
> When I had a problem with the email like everyone else, I went to my
> System
> Restore and uninstalled the last update by choosing a former 'installed
> Windows Update'; sometimes updates or files that are downloaded get
> corrupted
> in the lines without you knowing it, and when I did that, and then let it
> do
> the automatic updates, everything went through fine, and I'm using Vista
> Home
> Premium and IE8 and it's seems to be working in Windows Mail too fine. I
> have
> another update wanting to install, but if it causes a problem, I'll just
> do a
> "System Restore" before this update. I'm surprised Microsoft is updating
> to
> Internet Explorer 8, I thought IE* was still in the beta condition. Don't
> like the way it was slipped in on us. I avoided it just as suggested here
> till they get the bugs worked out. Those are excellent advice given here.
> Well hope this has helped someone here in some way...When updating things,
> always read the instructions carefully and get the right version for your
> computer for any software updates or upgrades...
> Tiffany
>
> "Rainald Taesler" wrote:
>
>> [crossposted to vista.mail]
>>
>> Welcome to the Club! :-( :-(
>> IMO it's rather not an issue with protection software but just the nasty
>> IE8-WinMail bug which affects many systems after installing IE8. There's
>> tons of reports in endless threads in vista.mail.
>>
>> The only remedy known so far is uninstalling IE8. You may try
>> re-installing IE8 under the precautions suggested by PA Bear but I
>> seriously doubt that the problem will not re-appear.
>>
>> If you could live with the state of JPG and TXT files not being opened
>> from WinMail directly but need saving and then opening, whereas other
>> file types (especially Office files) will open fine, you might try the
>> following workaround:
>>
>> In the properties of the LNK/shortcut in the Start Menu used for
>> launching WinMail per default the path for running WinMail is set to
>> "C:\Program Files\Windows Mail".
>> If this is changed to a destination with full writing permissions, all
>> files I tested (especially all of Office) except JPG and TXT can be
>> opened.
>>
>> - Right-click on the shortcut fir WinMail;
>> - in the context menu select "Properties";
>> - open the tabbed page "Link";
>> - in the field labeled "Start in:" replace the current entry by
>> "%UserProfile%".
>> - click the OK button.
>>
>> HTH
>> Rainald
>> P.S. If you stay with IE7 disable (hide) the update for IE8 in the
>> "Windows Updates" applet.
>>
>>
>> ChasSmash wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for the response.
>> >
>> > I am using Windows Live One Care. Subscription is good for another 6
>> > months.
>> >
>> > No third party firewall unless you count what is running from One
>> > Care. It looks and reacts the same as the firewall from Vista. Should
>> > it be treated like any other 3rd party firewall?
>> >
>> > Norton or McAfee have not been on this machine since I loaded Vista
>> > onto it. I formatted the disk then installed Vista.
>> >
>> > I do not use toolbars at all.
>> >
>> > So, if I download IE8 from the website, close IE7 and the start the
>> > installation, this may solve the problem with email attachments?
>> >
>> >
>> > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
>> >
>> >> [Crossposted to IE General newsgroup]
>> >>
>> >>> After the auto download of IE8 I could no longer open any
>> >>> attachments through Windows Mail.
>> >>
>> >> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed, is your
>> >> subscription current, and is it supported in IE8? What anti-spyware
>> >> applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall (if
>> >> any)? Were any of these applications running in the background when
>> >> you installed IE8? (See recommendations below.)
>> >>
>> >> Has a Norton or McAfee application ever been installed on this
>> >> machine (e.g., a free-trial version that came preinstalled when you
>> >> bought it)?
>> >>
>> >>> Everything works as normal but my Windows update wants to load IE8
>> >>> again stating it is an important security update.
>> >>
>> >> See
>> >>
>> http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/200...n-control.aspx.
>> >> IE8 will not install without your approval. You can "hide" IE8 by
>> >> running Windows Update manually and unchecking it.
>> >>
>> >> No-charge support for Internet Explorer 8 installation, set-up and
>> >> usage (only) is available via the phone based on your locale through
>> >> 31 December 2009. Customers must be running Windows XP or Windows
>> >> Vista in a non-domain environment.
>> >> => US & CA Residents: 1-866-234-6020
>> >> => Other locales:
>> >> https://support.microsoft.com/oas/de...px?&prid=13043
>> >>
>> >> My personal recommendations include:
>> >>
>> >> => Install IE8 manually, not via Windows Update/Automatic Updates!!
>> >>
>> >> => Uninstall all third-party toolbars (e.g., Google; Yahoo; Windows
>> >> Live) and third-party Windows Themes before installing IE8.
>> >>
>> >> => Close all open applications (i.e., anything with a taskbar icon)
>> >> before installing or uninstalling IE8.
>> >>
>> >> => I would strongly recommend disabling your anti-virus application
>> >> and any anti-spyware application's "system protections" (other than
>> >> Defender's) before installing (or uninstalling) an IE upgrade. If
>> >> you're running a third-party firewall, I would recommend disabling
>> >> it and then enabling the Windows Firewall before installing (or
>> >> uninstalling) an IE upgrade.
>> >>
>> >> => Create a Restore Point manually before installing IE8.
>> >>
>> >> => Reboot twice after installing or uninstalling IE8.
>> >>
>> >> => For best chance of success with IE8, make certain that your
>> >> anti-virus application, any anti-spyware applications (other than
>> >> Defender), and your third-party firewall (if any) are supported in
>> >> IE8 Final before you decide install it.
>> >> --
>> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> >> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Client - since 2002
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ChasSmash wrote:
>> >>> After the auto download of IE8 I could no longer open any
>> >>> attachments through Windows Mail. I went through email support and
>> >>> got 2 potential fixes to try of which neither worked. I tried a few
>> >>> other tricks under the OPTIONS in Windows Mail and those worked
>> >>> temporarily. After reading several
>> >>> blogs on the subject "COMMAND FAILED TO EXECUTE", which is the
>> >>> error I got while trying to open attachments, I removed the update
>> >>> and went back to IE7. Everything works as normal but my Windows
>> >>> update wants to load IE8 again stating it is an important security
>> >>> update. Has this problem been addressed? The tech I was emailing
>> >>> didn't seem to acknowledge it and advised me to contact IE8
>> >>> support. Is there a fix for this?
>>
>>
>>

"Sam Hobbs" <> wrote in message news:...

> computer was still completely functional for me without the Macromedia
> Flash Player. It is used for some stuff I want to see so I re-installed it
> but sometimes I get close to uninstalling it again.


Simple enough just to use Manage Add-ons and disable/enable it
instead.


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