Re: KB931768 causes IE7 failure w/ navcancl & ieframe.dll &temp so

[Posted & mailed; X-post to Windows Update newsgroup]

Why did (any of) you change TIF's default location in the first place?

Did (all of) you change the default to a drive other than the one on which
Windows is installed (typically C:\Windows)?
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) [working offline]
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org

tony wrote:
> Problem solved!
>
> I've solved this problem by restoring the temporary internet files folder
> the default folder. I changed the TIF folder for some reasons, but now I
> have to chage it back to solve this problem. The default folder in Vista
> should be like:
> C:\Users\%YOUR_USER_NAME%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\ Windows\Temporary
> Internet
> Files
>
>
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
>
>> "tony" <> wrote in message
>> news:3BF57C13-8D7D-43A4-A143-...
>>> You know what, since I set about:blank as my default homepage, I can
>>> guarantee you this is nothing to do with the URL.
>>
>>
>> What we'd like to know is if it's being caused by
>>
>> res://ieframe/navcancl.htm
>>
>> Normally when you use the -nohome switch and click the Stop button
>> that shows up in the Address bar.
>>
>> E.g. Run... (press Win-R and enter
>>
>> iexplore.exe -nohome -extoff
>>
>> and click the Stop button. What happens?
>>
>>
>>> As a matter of fact, of
>>> this issue there is no chance for you to perform your follow-up.
>>> The main IE7 window is just like a quick flash, it popped up and closed
>>> at once,
>>
>>
>> Well you could at least open the TIF Viewer using Internet Options
>> (e.g. from the Control Panel) to see what is listed last in the view
>> sorted by Last Accessed...
>>
>> If this is for XP with default TIF location you could also just open
>> %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>>
>> Or open the History...
>>
>> Hmm... that's interesting. Navcancl doesn't show in the History
>> viewer
>> but it does show in the TIF viewer. Who knew? <eg>
>>
>>
>> Good luck
>>
>> Robert Aldwinckle
>> ---

The TIF is a big fragmentation/random access "provider" (any partition
with a minimum of self-respect shouldn't host it).
Many people put it on a dedicated partition, disk, flash drive, ram
drive etc. to improve the responsiveness of IE or the perfs of the
main partition (though many combinations actually don't do any
good ...).
Same goes for the swap file, logs files, temp files etc.
It might even be possible to do it without actually changing the
logical path of the TIF with an NTFS junction (linkd or mountvol, got
to try it yet ...).

On May 11, 6:35 pm, "PA Bear" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [Posted & mailed; X-post to WindowsUpdatenewsgroup]
>
> Why did (any of) you change TIF's default location in the first place?
>
> Did (all of) you change the default to a drive other than the one on which
> Windows is installed (typically C:\Windows)?
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) [working offline]
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>
> tony wrote:
> > Problem solved!
>
> > I've solved this problem by restoring the temporary internet files folder
> > the default folder. I changed the TIF folder for some reasons, but now I
> > have to chage it back to solve this problem. The default folder in Vista
> > should be like:
> > C:\Users\%YOUR_USER_NAME%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\ Windows\Temporary
> > Internet
> > Files
>
> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
>
> >> "tony" <t...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>news:3BF57C13-8D7D-43A4-A143-...
> >>> You know what, since I set about:blank as my default homepage, I can
> >>> guarantee you this is nothing to do with the URL.
>
> >> What we'd like to know is if it's being caused by
>
> >> res://ieframe/navcancl.htm
>
> >> Normally when you use the -nohome switch and click the Stop button
> >> that shows up in the Address bar.
>
> >> E.g. Run... (press Win-R and enter
>
> >> iexplore.exe -nohome -extoff
>
> >> and click the Stop button. What happens?
>
> >>> As a matter of fact, of
> >>> this issue there is no chance for you to perform your follow-up.
> >>> The main IE7 window is just like a quick flash, it popped up and closed
> >>> at once,
>
> >> Well you could at least open the TIF Viewer using Internet Options
> >> (e.g. from the Control Panel) to see what is listed last in the view
> >> sorted by Last Accessed...
>
> >> If this is for XP with default TIF location you could also just open
> >> %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>
> >> Or open the History...
>
> >> Hmm... that's interesting. Navcancl doesn't show in the History
> >> viewer
> >> but it does show in the TIF viewer. Who knew? <eg>
>
> >> Good luck
>
> >> Robert Aldwinckle
> >> ---

The TIF is a big fragmentation/random access "provider" (any partition
with a minimum of self-respect shouldn't host it).
Many people put it on a dedicated partition, disk, flash drive, ram
drive etc. to improve the responsiveness of IE or the perfs of the
main partition (though many combinations actually don't do any
good ...).
Same goes for the swap file, logs files, temp files etc.
It might even be possible to do it without actually changing the
logical path of the TIF with an NTFS junction (linkd or mountvol, got
to try it yet ...).

On May 11, 6:35 pm, "PA Bear" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> [Posted & mailed; X-post to WindowsUpdatenewsgroup]
>
> Why did (any of) you change TIF's default location in the first place?
>
> Did (all of) you change the default to a drive other than the one on which
> Windows is installed (typically C:\Windows)?
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) [working offline]
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>
> tony wrote:
> > Problem solved!
>
> > I've solved this problem by restoring the temporary internet files folder
> > the default folder. I changed the TIF folder for some reasons, but now I
> > have to chage it back to solve this problem. The default folder in Vista
> > should be like:
> > C:\Users\%YOUR_USER_NAME%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\ Windows\Temporary
> > Internet
> > Files
>
> > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
>
> >> "tony" <t...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>news:3BF57C13-8D7D-43A4-A143-...
> >>> You know what, since I set about:blank as my default homepage, I can
> >>> guarantee you this is nothing to do with the URL.
>
> >> What we'd like to know is if it's being caused by
>
> >> res://ieframe/navcancl.htm
>
> >> Normally when you use the -nohome switch and click the Stop button
> >> that shows up in the Address bar.
>
> >> E.g. Run... (press Win-R and enter
>
> >> iexplore.exe -nohome -extoff
>
> >> and click the Stop button. What happens?
>
> >>> As a matter of fact, of
> >>> this issue there is no chance for you to perform your follow-up.
> >>> The main IE7 window is just like a quick flash, it popped up and closed
> >>> at once,
>
> >> Well you could at least open the TIF Viewer using Internet Options
> >> (e.g. from the Control Panel) to see what is listed last in the view
> >> sorted by Last Accessed...
>
> >> If this is for XP with default TIF location you could also just open
> >> %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>
> >> Or open the History...
>
> >> Hmm... that's interesting. Navcancl doesn't show in the History
> >> viewer
> >> but it does show in the TIF viewer. Who knew? <eg>
>
> >> Good luck
>
> >> Robert Aldwinckle
> >> ---

OK, so I'm not clever enough to have moved the TIF file deliberately. I am
getting the same messages as everyone and it is fixed by turning off the
phishing filter. Can someone put it in laymans terms what I have to check and
do to fix this issue, because you lot have lost me! it begun causing me
problems unexpectedly in the middle of a session with no apparent cause or
change in the system.
Please help, I need my tabs!

"" wrote:

> The TIF is a big fragmentation/random access "provider" (any partition
> with a minimum of self-respect shouldn't host it).
> Many people put it on a dedicated partition, disk, flash drive, ram
> drive etc. to improve the responsiveness of IE or the perfs of the
> main partition (though many combinations actually don't do any
> good ...).
> Same goes for the swap file, logs files, temp files etc.
> It might even be possible to do it without actually changing the
> logical path of the TIF with an NTFS junction (linkd or mountvol, got
> to try it yet ...).
>
> On May 11, 6:35 pm, "PA Bear" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > [Posted & mailed; X-post to WindowsUpdatenewsgroup]
> >
> > Why did (any of) you change TIF's default location in the first place?
> >
> > Did (all of) you change the default to a drive other than the one on which
> > Windows is installed (typically C:\Windows)?
> > --
> > ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) [working offline]
> > MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> > AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
> >
> > tony wrote:
> > > Problem solved!
> >
> > > I've solved this problem by restoring the temporary internet files folder
> > > the default folder. I changed the TIF folder for some reasons, but now I
> > > have to chage it back to solve this problem. The default folder in Vista
> > > should be like:
> > > C:\Users\%YOUR_USER_NAME%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\ Windows\Temporary
> > > Internet
> > > Files
> >
> > > "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
> >
> > >> "tony" <t...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > >>news:3BF57C13-8D7D-43A4-A143-...
> > >>> You know what, since I set about:blank as my default homepage, I can
> > >>> guarantee you this is nothing to do with the URL.
> >
> > >> What we'd like to know is if it's being caused by
> >
> > >> res://ieframe/navcancl.htm
> >
> > >> Normally when you use the -nohome switch and click the Stop button
> > >> that shows up in the Address bar.
> >
> > >> E.g. Run... (press Win-R and enter
> >
> > >> iexplore.exe -nohome -extoff
> >
> > >> and click the Stop button. What happens?
> >
> > >>> As a matter of fact, of
> > >>> this issue there is no chance for you to perform your follow-up.
> > >>> The main IE7 window is just like a quick flash, it popped up and closed
> > >>> at once,
> >
> > >> Well you could at least open the TIF Viewer using Internet Options
> > >> (e.g. from the Control Panel) to see what is listed last in the view
> > >> sorted by Last Accessed...
> >
> > >> If this is for XP with default TIF location you could also just open
> > >> %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
> >
> > >> Or open the History...
> >
> > >> Hmm... that's interesting. Navcancl doesn't show in the History
> > >> viewer
> > >> but it does show in the TIF viewer. Who knew? <eg>
> >
> > >> Good luck
> >
> > >> Robert Aldwinckle
> > >> ---
>
>
>

"" schrieb:

> OK, so I'm not clever enough to have moved the TIF file deliberately. I am
> getting the same messages as everyone and it is fixed by turning off the
> phishing filter.

You're on Windows XP SP2? If true, you may wanna try the following:

#1 Close all open IE windows
#2 Start -> Run -> cmd [Enter]
#3 Type the following line in the "DOS prompt" window:
rd /s /q "%userprofile%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Antiphishing"
and hit [Enter] afterwards.

Start IE, reenable the PhishingFilter in the Internet Options ->
Advanced if you want to and hope, that the error(s) are gone.

Bye,
Freudi

> I'm not clever enough to have moved the TIF file deliberately

Where is your TIF /folder/ currently located?

See IE Tools > Internet Options > General > Browsing history > Settings.
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org


wrote:
> OK, so I'm not clever enough to have moved the TIF file deliberately. I am
> getting the same messages as everyone and it is fixed by turning off the
> phishing filter. Can someone put it in laymans terms what I have to check
> and do to fix this issue, because you lot have lost me! it begun causing
> me
> problems unexpectedly in the middle of a session with no apparent cause or
> change in the system.
> Please help, I need my tabs!
>
> "" wrote:
>
>> The TIF is a big fragmentation/random access "provider" (any partition
>> with a minimum of self-respect shouldn't host it).
>> Many people put it on a dedicated partition, disk, flash drive, ram
>> drive etc. to improve the responsiveness of IE or the perfs of the
>> main partition (though many combinations actually don't do any
>> good ...).
>> Same goes for the swap file, logs files, temp files etc.
>> It might even be possible to do it without actually changing the
>> logical path of the TIF with an NTFS junction (linkd or mountvol, got
>> to try it yet ...).
>>
>> On May 11, 6:35 pm, "PA Bear" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> [Posted & mailed; X-post to WindowsUpdatenewsgroup]
>>>
>>> Why did (any of) you change TIF's default location in the first place?
>>>
>>> Did (all of) you change the default to a drive other than the one on
>>> which
>>> Windows is installed (typically C:\Windows)?
>>> --
>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) [working offline]
>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>>>
>>> tony wrote:
>>>> Problem solved!
>>>
>>>> I've solved this problem by restoring the temporary internet files
>>>> folder
>>>> the default folder. I changed the TIF folder for some reasons, but now
>>>> I
>>>> have to chage it back to solve this problem. The default folder in
>>>> Vista
>>>> should be like:
>>>> C:\Users\%YOUR_USER_NAME%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\ Windows\Temporary
>>>> Internet
>>>> Files
>>>
>>>> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
>>>
>>>>> "tony" <t...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:3BF57C13-8D7D-43A4-A143-...
>>>>>> You know what, since I set about:blank as my default homepage, I can
>>>>>> guarantee you this is nothing to do with the URL.
>>>
>>>>> What we'd like to know is if it's being caused by
>>>
>>>>> res://ieframe/navcancl.htm
>>>
>>>>> Normally when you use the -nohome switch and click the Stop button
>>>>> that shows up in the Address bar.
>>>
>>>>> E.g. Run... (press Win-R and enter
>>>
>>>>> iexplore.exe -nohome -extoff
>>>
>>>>> and click the Stop button. What happens?
>>>
>>>>>> As a matter of fact, of
>>>>>> this issue there is no chance for you to perform your follow-up.
>>>>>> The main IE7 window is just like a quick flash, it popped up and
>>>>>> closed
>>>>>> at once,
>>>
>>>>> Well you could at least open the TIF Viewer using Internet Options
>>>>> (e.g. from the Control Panel) to see what is listed last in the view
>>>>> sorted by Last Accessed...
>>>
>>>>> If this is for XP with default TIF location you could also just open
>>>>> %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>>>
>>>>> Or open the History...
>>>
>>>>> Hmm... that's interesting. Navcancl doesn't show in the History
>>>>> viewer
>>>>> but it does show in the TIF viewer. Who knew? <eg>
>>>
>>>>> Good luck
>>>
>>>>> Robert Aldwinckle
>>>>> ---

"PA Bear" wrote:

> > I'm not clever enough to have moved the TIF file deliberately
>
> Where is your TIF /folder/ currently located?
>
> See IE Tools > Internet Options > General > Browsing history > Settings.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>
>
> wrote:
> > OK, so I'm not clever enough to have moved the TIF file deliberately. I am
> > getting the same messages as everyone and it is fixed by turning off the
> > phishing filter. Can someone put it in laymans terms what I have to check
> > and do to fix this issue, because you lot have lost me! it begun causing
> > me
> > problems unexpectedly in the middle of a session with no apparent cause or
> > change in the system.
> > Please help, I need my tabs!
> >
> > "" wrote:
> >
> >> The TIF is a big fragmentation/random access "provider" (any partition
> >> with a minimum of self-respect shouldn't host it).
> >> Many people put it on a dedicated partition, disk, flash drive, ram
> >> drive etc. to improve the responsiveness of IE or the perfs of the
> >> main partition (though many combinations actually don't do any
> >> good ...).
> >> Same goes for the swap file, logs files, temp files etc.
> >> It might even be possible to do it without actually changing the
> >> logical path of the TIF with an NTFS junction (linkd or mountvol, got
> >> to try it yet ...).
> >>
> >> On May 11, 6:35 pm, "PA Bear" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> [Posted & mailed; X-post to WindowsUpdatenewsgroup]
> >>>
> >>> Why did (any of) you change TIF's default location in the first place?
> >>>
> >>> Did (all of) you change the default to a drive other than the one on
> >>> which
> >>> Windows is installed (typically C:\Windows)?
> >>> --
> >>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) [working offline]
> >>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> >>> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
> >>>
> >>> tony wrote:
> >>>> Problem solved!
> >>>
> >>>> I've solved this problem by restoring the temporary internet files
> >>>> folder
> >>>> the default folder. I changed the TIF folder for some reasons, but now
> >>>> I
> >>>> have to chage it back to solve this problem. The default folder in
> >>>> Vista
> >>>> should be like:
> >>>> C:\Users\%YOUR_USER_NAME%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\ Windows\Temporary
> >>>> Internet
> >>>> Files
> >>>
> >>>> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> "tony" <t...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:3BF57C13-8D7D-43A4-A143-...
> >>>>>> You know what, since I set about:blank as my default homepage, I can
> >>>>>> guarantee you this is nothing to do with the URL.
> >>>
> >>>>> What we'd like to know is if it's being caused by
> >>>
> >>>>> res://ieframe/navcancl.htm
> >>>
> >>>>> Normally when you use the -nohome switch and click the Stop button
> >>>>> that shows up in the Address bar.
> >>>
> >>>>> E.g. Run... (press Win-R and enter
> >>>
> >>>>> iexplore.exe -nohome -extoff
> >>>
> >>>>> and click the Stop button. What happens?
> >>>
> >>>>>> As a matter of fact, of
> >>>>>> this issue there is no chance for you to perform your follow-up.
> >>>>>> The main IE7 window is just like a quick flash, it popped up and
> >>>>>> closed
> >>>>>> at once,
> >>>
> >>>>> Well you could at least open the TIF Viewer using Internet Options
> >>>>> (e.g. from the Control Panel) to see what is listed last in the view
> >>>>> sorted by Last Accessed...
> >>>
> >>>>> If this is for XP with default TIF location you could also just open
> >>>>> %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
> >>>
> >>>>> Or open the History...
> >>>
> >>>>> Hmm... that's interesting. Navcancl doesn't show in the History
> >>>>> viewer
> >>>>> but it does show in the TIF viewer. Who knew? <eg>
> >>>
> >>>>> Good luck
> >>>
> >>>>> Robert Aldwinckle
> >>>>> ---
>
>

There must be thousands of us like sam@adammcginty who are having this
problem. Incidentally, I am not on Vista but on XP SP2. My TIF's path is
C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\



"PA Bear" wrote:

> > I'm not clever enough to have moved the TIF file deliberately
>
> Where is your TIF /folder/ currently located?
>
> See IE Tools > Internet Options > General > Browsing history > Settings.
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>
>
> wrote:
> > OK, so I'm not clever enough to have moved the TIF file deliberately. I am
> > getting the same messages as everyone and it is fixed by turning off the
> > phishing filter. Can someone put it in laymans terms what I have to check
> > and do to fix this issue, because you lot have lost me! it begun causing
> > me
> > problems unexpectedly in the middle of a session with no apparent cause or
> > change in the system.
> > Please help, I need my tabs!
> >
> > "" wrote:
> >
> >> The TIF is a big fragmentation/random access "provider" (any partition
> >> with a minimum of self-respect shouldn't host it).
> >> Many people put it on a dedicated partition, disk, flash drive, ram
> >> drive etc. to improve the responsiveness of IE or the perfs of the
> >> main partition (though many combinations actually don't do any
> >> good ...).
> >> Same goes for the swap file, logs files, temp files etc.
> >> It might even be possible to do it without actually changing the
> >> logical path of the TIF with an NTFS junction (linkd or mountvol, got
> >> to try it yet ...).
> >>
> >> On May 11, 6:35 pm, "PA Bear" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> [Posted & mailed; X-post to WindowsUpdatenewsgroup]
> >>>
> >>> Why did (any of) you change TIF's default location in the first place?
> >>>
> >>> Did (all of) you change the default to a drive other than the one on
> >>> which
> >>> Windows is installed (typically C:\Windows)?
> >>> --
> >>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) [working offline]
> >>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> >>> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
> >>>
> >>> tony wrote:
> >>>> Problem solved!
> >>>
> >>>> I've solved this problem by restoring the temporary internet files
> >>>> folder
> >>>> the default folder. I changed the TIF folder for some reasons, but now
> >>>> I
> >>>> have to chage it back to solve this problem. The default folder in
> >>>> Vista
> >>>> should be like:
> >>>> C:\Users\%YOUR_USER_NAME%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\ Windows\Temporary
> >>>> Internet
> >>>> Files
> >>>
> >>>> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>> "tony" <t...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:3BF57C13-8D7D-43A4-A143-...
> >>>>>> You know what, since I set about:blank as my default homepage, I can
> >>>>>> guarantee you this is nothing to do with the URL.
> >>>
> >>>>> What we'd like to know is if it's being caused by
> >>>
> >>>>> res://ieframe/navcancl.htm
> >>>
> >>>>> Normally when you use the -nohome switch and click the Stop button
> >>>>> that shows up in the Address bar.
> >>>
> >>>>> E.g. Run... (press Win-R and enter
> >>>
> >>>>> iexplore.exe -nohome -extoff
> >>>
> >>>>> and click the Stop button. What happens?
> >>>
> >>>>>> As a matter of fact, of
> >>>>>> this issue there is no chance for you to perform your follow-up.
> >>>>>> The main IE7 window is just like a quick flash, it popped up and
> >>>>>> closed
> >>>>>> at once,
> >>>
> >>>>> Well you could at least open the TIF Viewer using Internet Options
> >>>>> (e.g. from the Control Panel) to see what is listed last in the view
> >>>>> sorted by Last Accessed...
> >>>
> >>>>> If this is for XP with default TIF location you could also just open
> >>>>> %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
> >>>
> >>>>> Or open the History...
> >>>
> >>>>> Hmm... that's interesting. Navcancl doesn't show in the History
> >>>>> viewer
> >>>>> but it does show in the TIF viewer. Who knew? <eg>
> >>>
> >>>>> Good luck
> >>>
> >>>>> Robert Aldwinckle
> >>>>> ---
>
>

I was replying to sam[AT]adammcginty.

What problems are /you/ having? It'd probably be best for you to begin your
own thread about it.
--
~PA Bear


deansandrew wrote:
> There must be thousands of us like sam@adammcginty who are having this
> problem. Incidentally, I am not on Vista but on XP SP2. My TIF's path is
> C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> Files\
>
>
>
> "PA Bear" wrote:
>
>>> I'm not clever enough to have moved the TIF file deliberately
>>
>> Where is your TIF /folder/ currently located?
>>
>> See IE Tools > Internet Options > General > Browsing history > Settings.
>> --
>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>>
>>
>> wrote:
>>> OK, so I'm not clever enough to have moved the TIF file deliberately. I
>>> am
>>> getting the same messages as everyone and it is fixed by turning off the
>>> phishing filter. Can someone put it in laymans terms what I have to
>>> check
>>> and do to fix this issue, because you lot have lost me! it begun causing
>>> me
>>> problems unexpectedly in the middle of a session with no apparent cause
>>> or
>>> change in the system.
>>> Please help, I need my tabs!
>>>
>>> "" wrote:
>>>
>>>> The TIF is a big fragmentation/random access "provider" (any partition
>>>> with a minimum of self-respect shouldn't host it).
>>>> Many people put it on a dedicated partition, disk, flash drive, ram
>>>> drive etc. to improve the responsiveness of IE or the perfs of the
>>>> main partition (though many combinations actually don't do any
>>>> good ...).
>>>> Same goes for the swap file, logs files, temp files etc.
>>>> It might even be possible to do it without actually changing the
>>>> logical path of the TIF with an NTFS junction (linkd or mountvol, got
>>>> to try it yet ...).
>>>>
>>>> On May 11, 6:35 pm, "PA Bear" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> [Posted & mailed; X-post to WindowsUpdatenewsgroup]
>>>>>
>>>>> Why did (any of) you change TIF's default location in the first place?
>>>>>
>>>>> Did (all of) you change the default to a drive other than the one on
>>>>> which
>>>>> Windows is installed (typically C:\Windows)?
>>>>> --
>>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) [working offline]
>>>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
>>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
>>>>>
>>>>> tony wrote:
>>>>>> Problem solved!
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've solved this problem by restoring the temporary internet files
>>>>>> folder
>>>>>> the default folder. I changed the TIF folder for some reasons, but
>>>>>> now
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> have to chage it back to solve this problem. The default folder in
>>>>>> Vista
>>>>>> should be like:
>>>>>> C:\Users\%YOUR_USER_NAME%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\ Windows\Temporary
>>>>>> Internet
>>>>>> Files
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> "tony" <t...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:3BF57C13-8D7D-43A4-A143-...
>>>>>>>> You know what, since I set about:blank as my default homepage, I
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> guarantee you this is nothing to do with the URL.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> What we'd like to know is if it's being caused by
>>>>>
>>>>>>> res://ieframe/navcancl.htm
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Normally when you use the -nohome switch and click the Stop button
>>>>>>> that shows up in the Address bar.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> E.g. Run... (press Win-R and enter
>>>>>
>>>>>>> iexplore.exe -nohome -extoff
>>>>>
>>>>>>> and click the Stop button. What happens?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As a matter of fact, of
>>>>>>>> this issue there is no chance for you to perform your follow-up.
>>>>>>>> The main IE7 window is just like a quick flash, it popped up and
>>>>>>>> closed
>>>>>>>> at once,
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well you could at least open the TIF Viewer using Internet
>>>>>>> Options
>>>>>>> (e.g. from the Control Panel) to see what is listed last in the view
>>>>>>> sorted by Last Accessed...
>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this is for XP with default TIF location you could also just open
>>>>>>> %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or open the History...
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hmm... that's interesting. Navcancl doesn't show in the History
>>>>>>> viewer
>>>>>>> but it does show in the TIF viewer. Who knew? <eg>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Robert Aldwinckle
>>>>>>> ---

My problem is exactly the same as Tony's right at the beginning of this
thread although I am on XP SP2. After installing KB931768 I cannot open IE 7
and receive the message:
File Download - Security Warning
Do you want to save this file?
Name: navcancl
Type: Unknown File Type, 2.64KB
From: ieframe.dll
Save Cancel


When I uninstall KB931768 the problem goes away. I have not touched the
Temporary Internet Files Folder whose path is shown in my earlier reply.
My point is that like sam[AT]adammcginty there must be many who are not
computer whizz kids who would appreciate clear directions without
compromising security

"PA Bear" wrote:

> I was replying to sam[AT]adammcginty.
>
> What problems are /you/ having? It'd probably be best for you to begin your
> own thread about it.
> --
> ~PA Bear
>
>
> deansandrew wrote:
> > There must be thousands of us like sam@adammcginty who are having this
> > problem. Incidentally, I am not on Vista but on XP SP2. My TIF's path is
> > C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\Local Settings\Temporary Internet
> > Files\
> >
> >
> >
> > "PA Bear" wrote:
> >
> >>> I'm not clever enough to have moved the TIF file deliberately
> >>
> >> Where is your TIF /folder/ currently located?
> >>
> >> See IE Tools > Internet Options > General > Browsing history > Settings.
> >> --
> >> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> >> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> >> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
> >>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>> OK, so I'm not clever enough to have moved the TIF file deliberately. I
> >>> am
> >>> getting the same messages as everyone and it is fixed by turning off the
> >>> phishing filter. Can someone put it in laymans terms what I have to
> >>> check
> >>> and do to fix this issue, because you lot have lost me! it begun causing
> >>> me
> >>> problems unexpectedly in the middle of a session with no apparent cause
> >>> or
> >>> change in the system.
> >>> Please help, I need my tabs!
> >>>
> >>> "" wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> The TIF is a big fragmentation/random access "provider" (any partition
> >>>> with a minimum of self-respect shouldn't host it).
> >>>> Many people put it on a dedicated partition, disk, flash drive, ram
> >>>> drive etc. to improve the responsiveness of IE or the perfs of the
> >>>> main partition (though many combinations actually don't do any
> >>>> good ...).
> >>>> Same goes for the swap file, logs files, temp files etc.
> >>>> It might even be possible to do it without actually changing the
> >>>> logical path of the TIF with an NTFS junction (linkd or mountvol, got
> >>>> to try it yet ...).
> >>>>
> >>>> On May 11, 6:35 pm, "PA Bear" <PABear...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> [Posted & mailed; X-post to WindowsUpdatenewsgroup]
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Why did (any of) you change TIF's default location in the first place?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Did (all of) you change the default to a drive other than the one on
> >>>>> which
> >>>>> Windows is installed (typically C:\Windows)?
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear) [working offline]
> >>>>> MS MVP-Windows (IE, OE, Security, Shell/User)
> >>>>> AumHa VSOP & Admin; DTS-L.org
> >>>>>
> >>>>> tony wrote:
> >>>>>> Problem solved!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I've solved this problem by restoring the temporary internet files
> >>>>>> folder
> >>>>>> the default folder. I changed the TIF folder for some reasons, but
> >>>>>> now
> >>>>>> I
> >>>>>> have to chage it back to solve this problem. The default folder in
> >>>>>> Vista
> >>>>>> should be like:
> >>>>>> C:\Users\%YOUR_USER_NAME%\AppData\Local\Microsoft\ Windows\Temporary
> >>>>>> Internet
> >>>>>> Files
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> "tony" <t...@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >>>>>>> news:3BF57C13-8D7D-43A4-A143-...
> >>>>>>>> You know what, since I set about:blank as my default homepage, I
> >>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>> guarantee you this is nothing to do with the URL.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> What we'd like to know is if it's being caused by
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> res://ieframe/navcancl.htm
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Normally when you use the -nohome switch and click the Stop button
> >>>>>>> that shows up in the Address bar.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> E.g. Run... (press Win-R and enter
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> iexplore.exe -nohome -extoff
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> and click the Stop button. What happens?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>> As a matter of fact, of
> >>>>>>>> this issue there is no chance for you to perform your follow-up.
> >>>>>>>> The main IE7 window is just like a quick flash, it popped up and
> >>>>>>>> closed
> >>>>>>>> at once,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Well you could at least open the TIF Viewer using Internet
> >>>>>>> Options
> >>>>>>> (e.g. from the Control Panel) to see what is listed last in the view
> >>>>>>> sorted by Last Accessed...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> If this is for XP with default TIF location you could also just open
> >>>>>>> %USERPROFILE%\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Or open the History...
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hmm... that's interesting. Navcancl doesn't show in the History
> >>>>>>> viewer
> >>>>>>> but it does show in the TIF viewer. Who knew? <eg>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Good luck
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>> Robert Aldwinckle
> >>>>>>> ---
>
>