RE: Live Messenger, Live Hotmail, and Windows Live Mail - Contacts

Does anyone know what the settings are for smtp servers incoming

"Bob Lucas" wrote:

> Microsoft announced that HTTP access to Hotmail accounts from Outlook
> Express would be no longer be available after June 30th. (I understand
> that implementation of that decision has been postponed.)
>
> I have two "grandfathered" Hotmail accounts and one "grandfathered" MSN
> mail account - so I installed Windows Live mail on my computers. I also
> imported my all of my Live Hotmail / MSN mail addresses into Windows
> Live Mail. I have retained Outlook Express on my computers, for access
> to newsgroups and various POP3/SMTP email accounts.
>
> I use my primary Hotmail address as my Live ID sign-in
> for Windows Live Mail and also for Windows Live Messenger.
>
> I logged onto my primary Hotmail address via the Internet and imported
> my Windows address book. The Live interface synchronised the resulting
> contacts list with my Hotmail account and Windows Live Messenger. Then,
> I removed a few duplicate entries and re-created my distribution lists
> (from OE) in Windows Live Mail and Hotmail webmail. So far, so good.
>
> However, there are inconsistencies with the way Hotmail (via the webmail
> interface), Windows Live Mail and Windows Live Messenger sort my
> contacts.
>
> Hotmail (webmail) sorts contacts alphabetically - surname first. Then,
> if I use the contact list to send an email to Joe Bloggs (appears in the
> contact list as Bloggs, Joe), the outgoing email shows the addressee's
> name correctly as "Joe Bloggs".
>
> I have also configured Windows Live Mail to sort contacts
> alphabetically - surname first. However, if I use the contact list to
> send a message to Joe Bloggs, the resulting email shows the addressee's
> name as Bloggs Joe. In this respect, Outlook Express and the Hotmail
> webmail interface are much better. Is there any way of configuring the
> contacts list in Windows Live Mail to sort the list by Surname - but to
> send outgoing emails with the addressee as Joe Bloggs, not Bloggs Joe?
>
> Windows Live Messenger is even worse. The contacts list sorts by
> First Name only - and unless I am mistaken, the only sort options are
> "Display Name", "First and last name" or "email address". There is no
> way to to sort by Surname first. Why not?
>
> Surname first is the most logical sort method. There are no less than
> seven contacts called David in my contact list - and only one "Smith".
> Need I say more? I certainly do not want to sort contacts by first
> name.
>
>
>
>

For free Hotmail accounts(hotmail, msn and live.com)--smtp/pop3 access is not possible.

For subscription based accounts --Legacy Msn.com pop3(no longer available), Hotmail Plus, and possibly some Qwest subscribers using
Msn Premium..see this article
MSN and Hotmail Plus POP3/SMTP Access
http://liveunplugged.spaces.live.com...90CA!171.entry

Note: MSn Premium accounts(unlike the above legacy,Plus, and select Qwest) are not pop3/smtp capable, they are http accounts.


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"nivvi" <> wrote in message news:ED569C26-C15C-417A-B93C-...
> Does anyone know what the settings are for smtp servers incoming

For what?


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"nivvi" <> wrote in message
news:ED569C26-C15C-417A-B93C-...
> Does anyone know what the settings are for smtp servers incoming
>
> "Bob Lucas" wrote:
>
>> Microsoft announced that HTTP access to Hotmail accounts from Outlook
>> Express would be no longer be available after June 30th. (I understand
>> that implementation of that decision has been postponed.)
>>
>> I have two "grandfathered" Hotmail accounts and one "grandfathered" MSN
>> mail account - so I installed Windows Live mail on my computers. I also
>> imported my all of my Live Hotmail / MSN mail addresses into Windows
>> Live Mail. I have retained Outlook Express on my computers, for access
>> to newsgroups and various POP3/SMTP email accounts.
>>
>> I use my primary Hotmail address as my Live ID sign-in
>> for Windows Live Mail and also for Windows Live Messenger.
>>
>> I logged onto my primary Hotmail address via the Internet and imported
>> my Windows address book. The Live interface synchronised the resulting
>> contacts list with my Hotmail account and Windows Live Messenger. Then,
>> I removed a few duplicate entries and re-created my distribution lists
>> (from OE) in Windows Live Mail and Hotmail webmail. So far, so good.
>>
>> However, there are inconsistencies with the way Hotmail (via the webmail
>> interface), Windows Live Mail and Windows Live Messenger sort my
>> contacts.
>>
>> Hotmail (webmail) sorts contacts alphabetically - surname first. Then,
>> if I use the contact list to send an email to Joe Bloggs (appears in the
>> contact list as Bloggs, Joe), the outgoing email shows the addressee's
>> name correctly as "Joe Bloggs".
>>
>> I have also configured Windows Live Mail to sort contacts
>> alphabetically - surname first. However, if I use the contact list to
>> send a message to Joe Bloggs, the resulting email shows the addressee's
>> name as Bloggs Joe. In this respect, Outlook Express and the Hotmail
>> webmail interface are much better. Is there any way of configuring the
>> contacts list in Windows Live Mail to sort the list by Surname - but to
>> send outgoing emails with the addressee as Joe Bloggs, not Bloggs Joe?
>>
>> Windows Live Messenger is even worse. The contacts list sorts by
>> First Name only - and unless I am mistaken, the only sort options are
>> "Display Name", "First and last name" or "email address". There is no
>> way to to sort by Surname first. Why not?
>>
>> Surname first is the most logical sort method. There are no less than
>> seven contacts called David in my contact list - and only one "Smith".
>> Need I say more? I certainly do not want to sort contacts by first
>> name.
>>
>>
>>
>>