Re: Making New DNS IP Permanent

"Scott Roberts" <-webworks-
software.com> POSTED ON Fri, 21 Dec 2007 16:19:27 -0600:

>I can't really tell from your post whether you want to
>specify a static DNS Server (which your computer will use
>for *all* DNS queries) or if you simply want to set up a
>static Host Name/IP combo ...

This is about access to a Domain Name Server (DNS) out on
the Internet (beyond my gateway) for the purpose of
translating symbolic Internet addresses to numeric IP
addresses. So your first alternative is the correct one --
except I'm not trying to specify it; I'm trying to make the
specification permanent.

>To set up a static DNS Server:
>
>1. Control Panel -> Network Connections
>2. Right-Click the appropriate network connection (e.g.
>Local Area Connection) and select Properties.
>3. Select "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" then click the
>"Properties" button.
>4. Select "Use the following DNS server addresses" and
>type in the DNS server(s).
>5. Click Ok.

Are you sure you're running Vista and not XP? My Vista
requires other steps, such as verifying that I'm the one
who wants to change anything (ridiculous question!). But
yes, this is essentially the "rigmarole," mentioned in my
first post, that I must perform every time I reboot the
laptop. What I need to find out is how to make this "set
up" permanent so I don't have to execute it each time I
reboot.

Your suggestion to install entries in the file,
"C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts," was interesting.
I thought, "What the hell, I'll at least insert the gateway
IP." Then Vista informed me, when trying to store the
changed file under Notepad, that I needed administrative
permission to store that file. I am the only user of this
machine, with an "administration" account type. How do I
get administrative permission?

This is close to being the last straw on the camel's back.
The next one will reformat the hard drive and install
Debian Linux. Microsoft's contempt for its legacy users is
becoming intolerable.

To recap: My Vista laptop is on a LAN and does not use
DHCP. All IPs are static. Having changed Internet Service
Providers (ISP) and thus DNS IPs, changing the DNS IP in my
Vista laptop is possible but upon each reboot the DNS IP
reverts to the old ISP's DNS, which of course is
unreachable via the new ISP. I hope someone can tell me
how to persuade Vista to make permanent the change of DNS.

--Robert Smith

> This is about access to a Domain Name Server (DNS) out on
> the Internet (beyond my gateway) for the purpose of
> translating symbolic Internet addresses to numeric IP
> addresses. So your first alternative is the correct one --
> except I'm not trying to specify it; I'm trying to make the
> specification permanent.
>
>>To set up a static DNS Server:
>>
>>1. Control Panel -> Network Connections
>>2. Right-Click the appropriate network connection (e.g.
>>Local Area Connection) and select Properties.
>>3. Select "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" then click the
>>"Properties" button.
>>4. Select "Use the following DNS server addresses" and
>>type in the DNS server(s).
>>5. Click Ok.
>
> Are you sure you're running Vista and not XP?

It says Vista when I boot up, so I assume that it is.

> My Vista
> requires other steps, such as verifying that I'm the one
> who wants to change anything (ridiculous question!).

You probably wouldn't think the question was so ridiculous if it were a
virus trying to make the change and Vista just did it without asking. In
that case, you'd be saying how stupid Vista is for changing network settings
without your permission.

Regardless, it's EXTREMELY simple to turn off UAC prompts. Try Google if you
can't figure it out.

> But
> yes, this is essentially the "rigmarole," mentioned in my
> first post, that I must perform every time I reboot the
> laptop. What I need to find out is how to make this "set
> up" permanent so I don't have to execute it each time I
> reboot.
>
> Your suggestion to install entries in the file,
> "C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts," was interesting.
> I thought, "What the hell, I'll at least insert the gateway
> IP."

That wouldn't help at all.

> Then Vista informed me, when trying to store the
> changed file under Notepad, that I needed administrative
> permission to store that file. I am the only user of this
> machine, with an "administration" account type. How do I
> get administrative permission?

You can't save directly to "system" folders in Vista. I find this fairly
annoying as well, but it's not such a huge deal to save the file elsewhere
then copy it back into the correct place. You will, of course, be prompted
whether you want to copy said file into a protected folder unless you turn
off UAC (see above).

> This is close to being the last straw on the camel's back.
> The next one will reformat the hard drive and install
> Debian Linux. Microsoft's contempt for its legacy users is
> becoming intolerable.
>
> To recap: My Vista laptop is on a LAN and does not use
> DHCP. All IPs are static. Having changed Internet Service
> Providers (ISP) and thus DNS IPs, changing the DNS IP in my
> Vista laptop is possible but upon each reboot the DNS IP
> reverts to the old ISP's DNS, which of course is
> unreachable via the new ISP. I hope someone can tell me
> how to persuade Vista to make permanent the change of DNS.

There are additional DNS settings under the "Advanced" tab that you may or
may not wish to explore. I'm guessing you've already installed Debian Linux
at this point and are blissfully surfing away, so I'm not going to put any
more effort into this thread.

"Scott Roberts" <> wrote in
message news:...
>
>> This is about access to a Domain Name Server (DNS) out on
>> the Internet (beyond my gateway) for the purpose of
>> translating symbolic Internet addresses to numeric IP
>> addresses. So your first alternative is the correct one --
>> except I'm not trying to specify it; I'm trying to make the
>> specification permanent.
>>
>>>To set up a static DNS Server:
>>>
>>>1. Control Panel -> Network Connections
>>>2. Right-Click the appropriate network connection (e.g.
>>>Local Area Connection) and select Properties.
>>>3. Select "Internet Protocol (TCP/IP)" then click the
>>>"Properties" button.
>>>4. Select "Use the following DNS server addresses" and
>>>type in the DNS server(s).
>>>5. Click Ok.
>>
>> Are you sure you're running Vista and not XP?
>
> It says Vista when I boot up, so I assume that it is.
>
>> My Vista
>> requires other steps, such as verifying that I'm the one
>> who wants to change anything (ridiculous question!).
>
> You probably wouldn't think the question was so ridiculous if it were a
> virus trying to make the change and Vista just did it without asking. In
> that case, you'd be saying how stupid Vista is for changing network
> settings
> without your permission.
>
> Regardless, it's EXTREMELY simple to turn off UAC prompts. Try Google if
> you
> can't figure it out.
>
>> But
>> yes, this is essentially the "rigmarole," mentioned in my
>> first post, that I must perform every time I reboot the
>> laptop. What I need to find out is how to make this "set
>> up" permanent so I don't have to execute it each time I
>> reboot.
>>
>> Your suggestion to install entries in the file,
>> "C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts," was interesting.
>> I thought, "What the hell, I'll at least insert the gateway
>> IP."
>
> That wouldn't help at all.
>
>> Then Vista informed me, when trying to store the
>> changed file under Notepad, that I needed administrative
>> permission to store that file. I am the only user of this
>> machine, with an "administration" account type. How do I
>> get administrative permission?
>
> You can't save directly to "system" folders in Vista. I find this fairly
> annoying as well, but it's not such a huge deal to save the file elsewhere
> then copy it back into the correct place. You will, of course, be prompted
> whether you want to copy said file into a protected folder unless you turn
> off UAC (see above).
>
>> This is close to being the last straw on the camel's back.
>> The next one will reformat the hard drive and install
>> Debian Linux. Microsoft's contempt for its legacy users is
>> becoming intolerable.
>>
>> To recap: My Vista laptop is on a LAN and does not use
>> DHCP. All IPs are static. Having changed Internet Service
>> Providers (ISP) and thus DNS IPs, changing the DNS IP in my
>> Vista laptop is possible but upon each reboot the DNS IP
>> reverts to the old ISP's DNS, which of course is
>> unreachable via the new ISP. I hope someone can tell me
>> how to persuade Vista to make permanent the change of DNS.
>
> There are additional DNS settings under the "Advanced" tab that you may or
> may not wish to explore. I'm guessing you've already installed Debian
> Linux at this point and are blissfully surfing away, so I'm not going to
> put any more effort into this thread.


Ok, if you are on a LAN, that means you are behind a router of some sort. If
it is reverting back to the old DNS IP's it sounds like they are coded into
the router itself, not Vista as it reverts as I think I am reading this
right. My advice, is to go Static-DHCP if your router allows it. It picks up
all the DNS info from your ISP, and you set your IP based on the MAC address
of your network controller. This way you get the best of both worlds. I
actually have mine set that way for time that I want to put my machine on
the DMZ. I always know what my IP will be, but I don't have to keep messing
with the default gateway, and DNS setting on the OS side.

As for Debian...if you think Vista is a pain in the ass, try Debian. I have,
and it's a step you don't want to undertake lightly.

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