Re: [Old] How Microsoft Vandalised (Espionage) to Kill Competitor

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:09:22 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:

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> Borland fights big brain suck
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>| Fierce competitors Microsoft Corp. and Borland International, Inc. have moved
>| their battle from the networked desktop to the courtroom.
>|
>| Borland last week filed suit against Microsoft, alleging that the Redmond,
>| Wash., giant has been systematically recruiting Borland developers in an
>| attempt to eliminate the company as a competitor. Microsoft and Borland are
>| rivals in the budding Java and Internet tools markets.
>|
>| [...]
>|
>| The suit alleges that Microsoft's Bill Gates himself sweetened the pot. Gross
>| eventually accepted the offer, which included an additional half-million
>| dollar bonus, last September.
>|
>| A noticeably angry Borland CEO Del Yocam complained about the nerve of
>| Microsoft. "How flagrant, driving limos up to the front of the company. That
>| is what riles you," Yocam complained. Yocam said his No. 1 goal is to get
>| Microsoft to stop recruiting.


Someday you will learn that it is all about money Roy Schestowitz.

And I suspect that you and Mark Kent would be standing in line to get into
one of those limos and partake of the 1/2 million dollar bonus as well.

Most people would and those that claim they wouldn't are either lying,
already set up financially, don't have the skills needed (like you for
example) or are just plain crazy.

Borland is just ****ed because their products are no longer top tier.



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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:07:05 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:09:22 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>
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>> Borland fights big brain suck
>>
>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>| Fierce competitors Microsoft Corp. and Borland International, Inc.
>>have moved | their battle from the networked desktop to the courtroom. |
>>| Borland last week filed suit against Microsoft, alleging that the
>>Redmond, | Wash., giant has been systematically recruiting Borland
>>developers in an | attempt to eliminate the company as a competitor.
>>Microsoft and Borland are | rivals in the budding Java and Internet
>>tools markets. |
>>| [...]
>>|
>>| The suit alleges that Microsoft's Bill Gates himself sweetened the
>>pot. Gross | eventually accepted the offer, which included an additional
>>half-million | dollar bonus, last September.
>>|
>>| A noticeably angry Borland CEO Del Yocam complained about the nerve of
>>| Microsoft. "How flagrant, driving limos up to the front of the
>>company. That | is what riles you," Yocam complained. Yocam said his No.
>>1 goal is to get | Microsoft to stop recruiting.
>
>
> Someday you will learn that it is all about money Roy Schestowitz.
>
> And I suspect that you and Mark Kent would be standing in line to get
> into one of those limos and partake of the 1/2 million dollar bonus as
> well.
>
> Most people would and those that claim they wouldn't are either lying,
> already set up financially, don't have the skills needed (like you for
> example) or are just plain crazy.
>
> Borland is just ****ed because their products are no longer top tier.

Wait a moment. "are no longer top tier"? When was anything Borland *ever*
top tier?


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Stephan Rose <> writes:

> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:07:05 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:09:22 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
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>>> Borland fights big brain suck
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>| Fierce competitors Microsoft Corp. and Borland International, Inc.
>>>have moved | their battle from the networked desktop to the courtroom. |
>>>| Borland last week filed suit against Microsoft, alleging that the
>>>Redmond, | Wash., giant has been systematically recruiting Borland
>>>developers in an | attempt to eliminate the company as a competitor.
>>>Microsoft and Borland are | rivals in the budding Java and Internet
>>>tools markets. |
>>>| [...]
>>>|
>>>| The suit alleges that Microsoft's Bill Gates himself sweetened the
>>>pot. Gross | eventually accepted the offer, which included an additional
>>>half-million | dollar bonus, last September.
>>>|
>>>| A noticeably angry Borland CEO Del Yocam complained about the nerve of
>>>| Microsoft. "How flagrant, driving limos up to the front of the
>>>company. That | is what riles you," Yocam complained. Yocam said his No.
>>>1 goal is to get | Microsoft to stop recruiting.
>>
>>
>> Someday you will learn that it is all about money Roy Schestowitz.
>>
>> And I suspect that you and Mark Kent would be standing in line to get
>> into one of those limos and partake of the 1/2 million dollar bonus as
>> well.
>>
>> Most people would and those that claim they wouldn't are either lying,
>> already set up financially, don't have the skills needed (like you for
>> example) or are just plain crazy.
>>
>> Borland is just ****ed because their products are no longer top tier.
>
> Wait a moment. "are no longer top tier"? When was anything Borland *ever*
> top tier?

Borland C++ 2.0 (c 1990) and its GUI and DOS IDE kicked the crap out of pretty much
anything else at the time for PC development.

Their Turbo series won awards left right and centre before Linux was
just a stirring in Linus's pants.

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:21:29 -0500, Stephan Rose wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:07:05 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:09:22 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>
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>>>
>>> Borland fights big brain suck
>>>
>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>| Fierce competitors Microsoft Corp. and Borland International, Inc.
>>>have moved | their battle from the networked desktop to the courtroom. |
>>>| Borland last week filed suit against Microsoft, alleging that the
>>>Redmond, | Wash., giant has been systematically recruiting Borland
>>>developers in an | attempt to eliminate the company as a competitor.
>>>Microsoft and Borland are | rivals in the budding Java and Internet
>>>tools markets. |
>>>| [...]
>>>|
>>>| The suit alleges that Microsoft's Bill Gates himself sweetened the
>>>pot. Gross | eventually accepted the offer, which included an additional
>>>half-million | dollar bonus, last September.
>>>|
>>>| A noticeably angry Borland CEO Del Yocam complained about the nerve of
>>>| Microsoft. "How flagrant, driving limos up to the front of the
>>>company. That | is what riles you," Yocam complained. Yocam said his No.
>>>1 goal is to get | Microsoft to stop recruiting.
>>
>>
>> Someday you will learn that it is all about money Roy Schestowitz.
>>
>> And I suspect that you and Mark Kent would be standing in line to get
>> into one of those limos and partake of the 1/2 million dollar bonus as
>> well.
>>
>> Most people would and those that claim they wouldn't are either lying,
>> already set up financially, don't have the skills needed (like you for
>> example) or are just plain crazy.
>>
>> Borland is just ****ed because their products are no longer top tier.
>
> Wait a moment. "are no longer top tier"? When was anything Borland *ever*
> top tier?

They were among the first to release programming environments and
languages, like C, C++, Pascal and others when Microsoft was charging and
arm and a leg for the ones they sold.
Quattro was pretty good as well at the time.

Unfortunately due to poor management and lackluster development of new
products they went down the drain.


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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:34:45 +0200, Hadron wrote:

> Stephan Rose <> writes:
>
>> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:07:05 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:09:22 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
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>>>> Borland fights big brain suck
>>>>
>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>| Fierce competitors Microsoft Corp. and Borland International, Inc.
>>>>have moved | their battle from the networked desktop to the courtroom. |
>>>>| Borland last week filed suit against Microsoft, alleging that the
>>>>Redmond, | Wash., giant has been systematically recruiting Borland
>>>>developers in an | attempt to eliminate the company as a competitor.
>>>>Microsoft and Borland are | rivals in the budding Java and Internet
>>>>tools markets. |
>>>>| [...]
>>>>|
>>>>| The suit alleges that Microsoft's Bill Gates himself sweetened the
>>>>pot. Gross | eventually accepted the offer, which included an additional
>>>>half-million | dollar bonus, last September.
>>>>|
>>>>| A noticeably angry Borland CEO Del Yocam complained about the nerve of
>>>>| Microsoft. "How flagrant, driving limos up to the front of the
>>>>company. That | is what riles you," Yocam complained. Yocam said his No.
>>>>1 goal is to get | Microsoft to stop recruiting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Someday you will learn that it is all about money Roy Schestowitz.
>>>
>>> And I suspect that you and Mark Kent would be standing in line to get
>>> into one of those limos and partake of the 1/2 million dollar bonus as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Most people would and those that claim they wouldn't are either lying,
>>> already set up financially, don't have the skills needed (like you for
>>> example) or are just plain crazy.
>>>
>>> Borland is just ****ed because their products are no longer top tier.
>>
>> Wait a moment. "are no longer top tier"? When was anything Borland *ever*
>> top tier?
>
> Borland C++ 2.0 (c 1990) and its GUI and DOS IDE kicked the crap out of pretty much
> anything else at the time for PC development.
>
> Their Turbo series won awards left right and centre before Linux was
> just a stirring in Linus's pants.

+10


--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
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http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:34:45 +0200, Hadron wrote:

> Stephan Rose <> writes:
>
>> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:07:05 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:09:22 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>
>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>
>>>> Borland fights big brain suck
>>>>
>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>| Fierce competitors Microsoft Corp. and Borland International, Inc.
>>>>have moved | their battle from the networked desktop to the courtroom.
>>>>| | Borland last week filed suit against Microsoft, alleging that the
>>>>Redmond, | Wash., giant has been systematically recruiting Borland
>>>>developers in an | attempt to eliminate the company as a competitor.
>>>>Microsoft and Borland are | rivals in the budding Java and Internet
>>>>tools markets. |
>>>>| [...]
>>>>|
>>>>| The suit alleges that Microsoft's Bill Gates himself sweetened the
>>>>pot. Gross | eventually accepted the offer, which included an
>>>>additional half-million | dollar bonus, last September. |
>>>>| A noticeably angry Borland CEO Del Yocam complained about the nerve
>>>>of | Microsoft. "How flagrant, driving limos up to the front of the
>>>>company. That | is what riles you," Yocam complained. Yocam said his
>>>>No. 1 goal is to get | Microsoft to stop recruiting.
>>>
>>>
>>> Someday you will learn that it is all about money Roy Schestowitz.
>>>
>>> And I suspect that you and Mark Kent would be standing in line to get
>>> into one of those limos and partake of the 1/2 million dollar bonus as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> Most people would and those that claim they wouldn't are either lying,
>>> already set up financially, don't have the skills needed (like you for
>>> example) or are just plain crazy.
>>>
>>> Borland is just ****ed because their products are no longer top tier.
>>
>> Wait a moment. "are no longer top tier"? When was anything Borland
>> *ever* top tier?
>
> Borland C++ 2.0 (c 1990) and its GUI and DOS IDE kicked the crap out of
> pretty much anything else at the time for PC development.
>
> Their Turbo series won awards left right and centre before Linux was
> just a stirring in Linus's pants.

Ahh, that explains things. I was a little too young at that time to be
concerned with programming IDE's. =)

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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:18:14 -0500, Stephan Rose wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:34:45 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Stephan Rose <> writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 12:07:05 -0400, Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 11:09:22 +0000, Roy Schestowitz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>>>>> Hash: SHA1
>>>>>
>>>>> Borland fights big brain suck
>>>>>
>>>>> ,----[ Quote ]
>>>>>| Fierce competitors Microsoft Corp. and Borland International, Inc.
>>>>>have moved | their battle from the networked desktop to the
>>>>>courtroom. | | Borland last week filed suit against Microsoft,
>>>>>alleging that the Redmond, | Wash., giant has been systematically
>>>>>recruiting Borland developers in an | attempt to eliminate the
>>>>>company as a competitor. Microsoft and Borland are | rivals in the
>>>>>budding Java and Internet tools markets. |
>>>>>| [...]
>>>>>|
>>>>>| The suit alleges that Microsoft's Bill Gates himself sweetened the
>>>>>pot. Gross | eventually accepted the offer, which included an
>>>>>additional half-million | dollar bonus, last September. | | A
>>>>>noticeably angry Borland CEO Del Yocam complained about the nerve of
>>>>>| Microsoft. "How flagrant, driving limos up to the front of the
>>>>>company. That | is what riles you," Yocam complained. Yocam said his
>>>>>No. 1 goal is to get | Microsoft to stop recruiting.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Someday you will learn that it is all about money Roy Schestowitz.
>>>>
>>>> And I suspect that you and Mark Kent would be standing in line to get
>>>> into one of those limos and partake of the 1/2 million dollar bonus
>>>> as well.
>>>>
>>>> Most people would and those that claim they wouldn't are either
>>>> lying, already set up financially, don't have the skills needed (like
>>>> you for example) or are just plain crazy.
>>>>
>>>> Borland is just ****ed because their products are no longer top tier.
>>>
>>> Wait a moment. "are no longer top tier"? When was anything Borland
>>> *ever* top tier?
>>
>> Borland C++ 2.0 (c 1990) and its GUI and DOS IDE kicked the crap out of
>> pretty much anything else at the time for PC development.
>>
>> Their Turbo series won awards left right and centre before Linux was
>> just a stirring in Linus's pants.
>
> Ahh, that explains things. I was a little too young at that time to be
> concerned with programming IDE's. =)

Come to think of it, I honestly don't even know if I had a PC in 1990...


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"Stephan Rose" <> wrote in message
news: ...
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> Come to think of it, I honestly don't even know if I had a PC in 1990...
>

You ought to be ashamed of having a PC those days, if you did. Amiga was
where it was at then. I got one of the first A500s in 1988. It was far
ahead of the PC and Macintosh, with multitasking and massively superior
sound and graphics. The only thing that came close was the Archimedes.

ss.

Synapse Syndrome wrote:

>"Stephan Rose" <> wrote in message
>news: m...
>>
>> Come to think of it, I honestly don't even know if I had a PC in 1990...
>
>You ought to be ashamed of having a PC those days, if you did. Amiga was
>where it was at then. I got one of the first A500s in 1988. It was far
>ahead of the PC and Macintosh, with multitasking and massively superior
>sound and graphics. The only thing that came close was the Archimedes.

You were late to the party, man! 8) I bought my A1000 in late
1985. Used the hell out of the thing for 7 years with only a few
upgrades (2MB RAM, Quickstart ROM, and 50MB SCSI harddrive).

Boy, was that HD a nice upgrade. 8)