Re: openSUSE 10.3 sucks!

On Sep 6, 6:05 pm, ml2mst <ml2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I never made a secret out of the fact, that I've been a SUSE Linux fan
> since the 6.1 release. But because of the Microvell deal, I jumped ship
> a couple of months ago. However I felt I had to give the latest openSUSE
> 10.3 Beta a fair chance.
>
> My conclusion however is: its a horror!
>
> Every time you want to install (even a single) package using YaST2, the
> entire package database is rebuild. On my machine this takes about 20
> minutes :-(
>
> This lame system was introduced in 10.2 and openSUSE promised to make
> addition of repositories much more easy, with the Methapackage system,
> which I found very useful.
>
> However in the end, openSUSE finally didn't solve the problems as promised.
>
> After fooling around for a day with openSUSE 10.3 I installed Kubuntu
> again, without a pain.
>
> What most freaked me out was the fact that MONO was installed (without
> even questioning). I don't want MONO, because its an implementation of
> the Microsoft .NET framework. I simply don't want that sort of crap on
> my box, but openSUSE simply left me no choice.
>
> So here we have it: If you've been searching for Microsoft Linux, here
> it is, it's called SUSE / openSUSE.
>
> I'm sorry, it really freaks me out, because this is what became of this
> once so great distribution from the land of Bavaria :`-(
>
> If you value your (software) freedon, simply SUSE void()
>
> ---
> |_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin
> |_|_|0|http://ml2mst.googlepages.com
> |0|0|0|http://osgeex.blogspot.com


With Linux you get what you don't pay for.
Pony up some money for the Novell version and you will find it works a
lot better.

Part timers just can't compete with commercial full time programmers.

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> On Sep 6, 6:05 pm, ml2mst <ml2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I never made a secret out of the fact, that I've been a SUSE Linux fan
>> since the 6.1 release. But because of the Microvell deal, I jumped ship
>> a couple of months ago. However I felt I had to give the latest openSUSE
>> 10.3 Beta a fair chance.
>>
>> My conclusion however is: its a horror!
>>
>> Every time you want to install (even a single) package using YaST2, the
>> entire package database is rebuild. On my machine this takes about 20
>> minutes :-(

I encountered a similar problem with SVR5 when it was being developed as
Unixware.
Novel had to rewrite the code on the installer to reduce the install time
from a day to about 20 minutes.
Twenty minutes was OK on a 25Mhz 486 with 16M RAM, I expect it would be
faster on a modern machine.

The description of the problem and its effects match so well it makes me
wonder if someone really has stolen some of the stuff from UnixWare as Novel
claimed.. No.. the sources are different for that bit.

On Sep 6, 6:05 pm, ml2mst <ml2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I never made a secret out of the fact, that I've been a SUSE Linux fan
> since the 6.1 release. But because of the Microvell deal, I jumped ship
> a couple of months ago. However I felt I had to give the latest openSUSE
> 10.3 Beta a fair chance.
>
> My conclusion however is: its a horror!
>
> Every time you want to install (even a single) package using YaST2, the
> entire package database is rebuild. On my machine this takes about 20
> minutes :-(
>
> This lame system was introduced in 10.2 and openSUSE promised to make
> addition of repositories much more easy, with the Methapackage system,
> which I found very useful.

Easy solution: Use the Smart Package Manager.

--
Chris

____/ Chris on Friday 07 September 2007 21:34 : \____

> On Sep 6, 6:05 pm, ml2mst <ml2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I never made a secret out of the fact, that I've been a SUSE Linux fan
>> since the 6.1 release. But because of the Microvell deal, I jumped ship
>> a couple of months ago. However I felt I had to give the latest openSUSE
>> 10.3 Beta a fair chance.
>>
>> My conclusion however is: its a horror!
>>
>> Every time you want to install (even a single) package using YaST2, the
>> entire package database is rebuild. On my machine this takes about 20
>> minutes :-(
>>
>> This lame system was introduced in 10.2 and openSUSE promised to make
>> addition of repositories much more easy, with the Methapackage system,
>> which I found very useful.
>
> Easy solution: Use the Smart Package Manager.

It's just Gary Stewart (Flatfish) trolling again. Ignore that message and
killfile that new nym of his.

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Roy Schestowitz wrote:
> ____/ Chris on Friday 07 September 2007 21:34 : \____
>
>> On Sep 6, 6:05 pm, ml2mst <ml2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I never made a secret out of the fact, that I've been a SUSE Linux fan
>>> since the 6.1 release. But because of the Microvell deal, I jumped ship
>>> a couple of months ago. However I felt I had to give the latest openSUSE
>>> 10.3 Beta a fair chance.
>>>
>>> My conclusion however is: its a horror!
>>>
>>> Every time you want to install (even a single) package using YaST2, the
>>> entire package database is rebuild. On my machine this takes about 20
>>> minutes :-(
>>>
>>> This lame system was introduced in 10.2 and openSUSE promised to make
>>> addition of repositories much more easy, with the Methapackage system,
>>> which I found very useful.
>> Easy solution: Use the Smart Package Manager.
>
> It's just Gary Stewart (Flatfish) trolling again. Ignore that message and
> killfile that new nym of his.

Of course it is, he cross posted the treat again to fully unrelated
NG's, as usual. On the other had it's my fault, I gave this treat a
pretty inappropriate title, which I regret by now.

Anyway I hope Gary realizes I replaced the openSUSE 10.3 Beta with
another (stable) *GNU/Linux distribution* - Not Microsoft Windows - I
gave up on Windows when openSUSE 10.2 was released, simply because
*Windows became obsolete*, in my point of view and there's no turning back!

There's absolutely no longer a reason for me to run dual boot systems.

In stead of only complaining in COLA, I will contact the openSUSE team
and report the problems I've encountered.

This treat was never supposed to be an attack on SUSE or openSUS anyway.

Sorry Steward you failed again (as usual).

Cheers
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|_|0|_| Marti T. van Lin
|_|_|0| http://ml2mst.googlepages.com
|0|0|0| http://osgeex.blogspot.com