Re: OT: Is Vista worth upgrading to?

Waldo Lydecker <> said in
news::

> I have a Gateway, Pentium 4, 1.8 and ran the Vista Upgrade Advisor and
> it said that I could run Vista Home version. It did point out a few
> things would need upgraded drivers but for the most part everything
> looked ok.
>
> I am running XP. Is Vista worth the expense of upgrading to or should
> I just stick with XP?
>
> Your thoughts?
> Waldo
>

Vista sucks hind tit. It's a bloated pig of an OS. Any fool who
buys it is just doing free beta testing for Microsoft.

The trend in our company is away from bloated pigs. The factors are
time, excessive wasteful code, unnecessary "features", and poor employee
production. Windows / Vista is nothing but an enabling toy for people
to play with and waste time. Anything Windows can do, something else can
do just as well these days, in particular if the goal is completing
work.

Our company did a survey and determined that 52% of the user time was
spent screwing around on websites, watching videos or trying to stream
music instead of working. We do profit sharing and this kind of crap
has cut into our quarterly bonus checks for three years straight. You
have to hire people to take up the slack, profits go down, checks
shrink. Firing doesn't work, so we're taking their toys away. They
will have no choice but to work. Sucks, but we pay well and expect
results for the pay. As I said, firing doesn't work, neither does
counseling or probation.

We don't much care about the changing culture, we care about paying
somebody to work and having the job get done. If they want to play,
they can play at home. We're done making investments in filtering
technology and ****ing around in the sea of Windows policies to restrict
this crap. Microsoft should be producing and selling a business
microkernel of Windows without all this **** in it. Instead they have
their heads jammed so far up their asses that they've totally lost sight
of business needs.

We just finished a six month test of ordinary old Ubuntu along side of
XP and Vista. The Ubuntu users did three times as much work as the
Windows users because they did not have the toys to play with. The
Windows users spent more time trying to search for ways around the
filtering than the people who used Ubuntu. Not that Ubuntu can't be
made to be just as multimedia friendly as Windows, it can't be done as
easily by users.

We have better things to do than make a career of dinking around with a
clunky operating system that is not geared towards making employees
effective workers.

hiring by chance?

Oregon Duck wrote:
>
.... snip ...
>
> We just finished a six month test of ordinary old Ubuntu along side
> of XP and Vista. The Ubuntu users did three times as much work as
> the Windows users because they did not have the toys to play with.
> The Windows users spent more time trying to search for ways around
> the filtering than the people who used Ubuntu. Not that Ubuntu
> can't be made to be just as multimedia friendly as Windows, it
> can't be done as easily by users.

Two possibilities occur to me. In one, you have actually eased
your workers access to the Internet, Usenet, etc. so that they
spend less total time on them, and in the other you are hiring the
wrong people.

Bear in mind that programmers especially need relief from thinking
about evil incompatible requirements. Instant Usenet or Internet
access helps here. The mind is still working while doing mindless
things.

--
Chuck F (cbfalconer at maineline dot net)
Available for consulting/temporary embedded and systems.
<http://cbfalconer.home.att.net>


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Oregon Duck wrote:
> Waldo Lydecker <> said in
> news::
>
>> I have a Gateway, Pentium 4, 1.8 and ran the Vista Upgrade Advisor and
>> it said that I could run Vista Home version. It did point out a few
>> things would need upgraded drivers but for the most part everything
>> looked ok.
>>
>> I am running XP. Is Vista worth the expense of upgrading to or should
>> I just stick with XP?
>>
>> Your thoughts?
>> Waldo
>>
>
> Vista sucks hind tit. It's a bloated pig of an OS. Any fool who
> buys it is just doing free beta testing for Microsoft.
>
> The trend in our company is away from bloated pigs. The factors are
> time, excessive wasteful code, unnecessary "features", and poor employee
> production. Windows / Vista is nothing but an enabling toy for people
> to play with and waste time. Anything Windows can do, something else can
> do just as well these days, in particular if the goal is completing
> work.
>
> Our company did a survey and determined that 52% of the user time was
> spent screwing around on websites, watching videos or trying to stream
> music instead of working. We do profit sharing and this kind of crap
> has cut into our quarterly bonus checks for three years straight. You
> have to hire people to take up the slack, profits go down, checks
> shrink. Firing doesn't work, so we're taking their toys away. They
> will have no choice but to work. Sucks, but we pay well and expect
> results for the pay. As I said, firing doesn't work, neither does
> counseling or probation.
>
> We don't much care about the changing culture, we care about paying
> somebody to work and having the job get done. If they want to play,
> they can play at home. We're done making investments in filtering
> technology and ****ing around in the sea of Windows policies to restrict
> this crap. Microsoft should be producing and selling a business
> microkernel of Windows without all this **** in it. Instead they have
> their heads jammed so far up their asses that they've totally lost sight
> of business needs.
>
> We just finished a six month test of ordinary old Ubuntu along side of
> XP and Vista. The Ubuntu users did three times as much work as the
> Windows users because they did not have the toys to play with. The
> Windows users spent more time trying to search for ways around the
> filtering than the people who used Ubuntu. Not that Ubuntu can't be
> made to be just as multimedia friendly as Windows, it can't be done as
> easily by users.
>
> We have better things to do than make a career of dinking around with a
> clunky operating system that is not geared towards making employees
> effective workers.
>


Well, in the spirit of SOME of the folks who have arrived here on this
previous helpful and polite group of Ubuntu users, I should tell you
that ending your question in a preposition is incorrect and your
question should read "Is upgrading to Vista Worthwhile". But I won't,
that is simply a sarcastic comment on my part aimed at the usual bunch
of Net Nazi's who have come aboard this group recently.

I suspect that Microsoft's "Department X" is involved here; they are the
part of the Microsoft Company's "defense against other operating
systems" and are comprised of both full time employees and part-timers.
Just as back in the days of IBM's OS/2-Warp which was making inroads
against Windows for Workgroups 3.11 and the emerging Windows 98 beta's,
the Department X folks came on every possible group and immediately
began trashing the poor folks who were asking innocent questions.

I recommend that we do what is common in the military world when your
radio net is interrupted with Enemy Jamming. You ignore, you move
frequencies, you do NOT under any circumstances reply or taunt the Enemy
Jammers.

This will be my last transmission in this matter.

Misterfixit, Out.

Windows Vista RTM Is Not Worth Upgrading To, Just FYI. To Many Problems
With Windows Vista RTM. Stay With Windows XP Service Pack 2, Or Convert
Over To Linux, Just FYI. Your Choice, Just FYI.

Every person has different needs and what are issues for some may not
be for others.
If you are going to make such statements, you should also back them up
with facts.
The fact is Windows Vista is worth upgrading for some.

--
Jupiter Jones [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar
http://www.dts-l.org


<> wrote in message
news:...
> Windows Vista RTM Is Not Worth Upgrading To, Just FYI. To Many
> Problems With Windows Vista RTM. Stay With Windows XP Service Pack
> 2, Or Convert Over To Linux, Just FYI. Your Choice, Just FYI.

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Jupiter Jones [MVP] illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
> Every person has different needs and what are issues for some may not
> be for others.
> If you are going to make such statements, you should also back them up
> with facts.
> The fact is Windows Vista is worth upgrading for some.

Could you please refrain from top-posting. Top posting disrupts the
flow of conversation and is against the spirit and guidelines of usenet.
q
Thnks in advance.

--
Moog

"Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the
leather straps."

Another Net Nanny.


I Bleed Blue and Gold
GO BEARS!


"Moog" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Could you please refrain from top-posting. Top posting disrupts the
> flow of conversation and is against the spirit and guidelines of usenet.
> q
> Thnks in advance.
>
> --
> Moog
>
> "Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the
> leather straps."

Windows Vista is worth upgrading to if you are careful. Just FYI. There
are certain Right Wing Wacko's who frequent here, Just FYI, who don't have a
clue how to use a computer and Vista is way, way, above their heads. Just
FYI. Certain people who use to work for the Postal Service, Just FYI. You
know, those people who capitalize the first letter of each word. Just FYI.

If you can't figure out Vista, you should convert over to Linux and stay
there, Just FYI. Just FYI.

Just FYI, Just FYI. Oops. Did I say, Just FYI? This is Just for your
information, that's why I say Just FYI.

Just FYI.


<> wrote in message
news:...
> Windows Vista RTM Is Not Worth Upgrading To, Just FYI. To Many Problems
> With Windows Vista RTM. Stay With Windows XP Service Pack 2, Or Convert
> Over To Linux, Just FYI. Your Choice, Just FYI.

Spanky deMonkey illuminated alt.os.linux.ubuntu by typing:
> Windows Vista is worth upgrading to if you are careful. Just FYI. There
> are certain Right Wing Wacko's who frequent here, Just FYI, who don't have a
> clue how to use a computer and Vista is way, way, above their heads. Just
> FYI. Certain people who use to work for the Postal Service, Just FYI. You
> know, those people who capitalize the first letter of each word. Just FYI.
>
> If you can't figure out Vista, you should convert over to Linux and stay
> there, Just FYI. Just FYI.
>
> Just FYI, Just FYI. Oops. Did I say, Just FYI? This is Just for your
> information, that's why I say Just FYI.
>
> Just FYI.
>
>
><> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Windows Vista RTM Is Not Worth Upgrading To, Just FYI. To Many Problems
>> With Windows Vista RTM. Stay With Windows XP Service Pack 2, Or Convert
>> Over To Linux, Just FYI. Your Choice, Just FYI.

JFYI, you're top posting like someone who has just arrived on usenet,
a newb, a person with little knowledge of "how this thing works" and a
sperm guzzler.

This makes you a bottom feeding fcuknugget.

HTH. HAND.

--
Moog

"Some mornings it just doesn't seem worth it to gnaw through the
leather straps."