Re: Where/How to post formal bug report about Vista (Windows Speech Recognition)

Yes. What is the bug with WSR

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"Mark Conrad" <no-> wrote in message news:311020081827278803%no-...
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> Have annoying bug which only occurs with WSR.
>
> Is there any section of Microsoft that accepts bug reports?
>
> Mark-

That appears to be a design question as opposed to Bug report. There's a
stylistic difference between the two operations, but I'm not aware that one
is fundamentally superior to the other. What's a real world instance where
this is of significance?

If I recall correctly, the 'newline equals new sentence' logic is mirrored
throughout all autocorrecting Microsoft software that I can think of, so I'd
think this is by design as it stands and you would need to force lower-case
if that's what you explicitly wanted. =\

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"Mark Conrad" <no-> wrote in message
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> Great, do you happen to know where I can
> post the bug report?
>
>> What is the bug with WSR
>
> When I speak the command "NewLine" to drop down
> a line in the middle of a sentence, WSR wrongly
> capitalizes the first word on the new line.
>
> In other words, if I speak this sentence:
>
> "My dog NewLine has fleas Period"
>
> ...then the text appears like this:
>
> My dog
> Has fleas.
>
>
> Notice that "Has" is wrongly capitalized.
>
> BTW, my $1,600 full version of Dragon medical 10.0
> has the same bug.
>
> I submitted a formal bug report to Nuance, they
> thanked me, hopefully they will fix it by the next update.
>
> About the only modern speech app that does it right is
> that new one for Macs, "MacSpeech Dictate 1.2"
>
> My dog
> has fleas.
>
> ...but that app has many other problems.
>
> Mark-
>
>
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> In article <>, Peter Foldes
> <> wrote:
>
>> Yes. What is the bug with WSR

Give the dog a new name! oh and a flea bath.

"Mark Conrad" <no-> wrote in message news:011120080016531501%no-...
>
> Great, do you happen to know where I can
> post the bug report?
>
>> What is the bug with WSR
>
> When I speak the command "NewLine" to drop down
> a line in the middle of a sentence, WSR wrongly
> capitalizes the first word on the new line.
>
> In other words, if I speak this sentence:
>
> "My dog NewLine has fleas Period"
>
> ...then the text appears like this:
>
> My dog
> Has fleas.
>
>
> Notice that "Has" is wrongly capitalized.
>
> BTW, my $1,600 full version of Dragon medical 10.0
> has the same bug.
>
> I submitted a formal bug report to Nuance, they
> thanked me, hopefully they will fix it by the next update.
>
> About the only modern speech app that does it right is
> that new one for Macs, "MacSpeech Dictate 1.2"
>
> My dog
> has fleas.
>
> ...but that app has many other problems.
>
> Mark-
>
>
> --
> In article <>, Peter Foldes
> <> wrote:
>
>> Yes. What is the bug with WSR

> If I recall correctly, the 'newline equals new sentence' logic is mirrored
> throughout all autocorrecting Microsoft software that I can think of......

But surely this is nothing to do with autocorrection. We are in text entry
mode, not autocorrection mode.

It's exactly like typing "My dog <shift+enter> has fleas" in Word.

And when you do that, you get a lower case 'h'.

So, designed in or not, I think it's faulty functionality and would support
the OP's thought that it should go in as a bug report.

So how is that done?

SteveT

I was going by regular enter as opposed to shift-enter. =\
Auto-correction as in "guess what you're trying to do" - as in any
non-"smart" editor you would have had to explicitly upper case any leading
letters.

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"Steve Thackery" <> wrote in message
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>> If I recall correctly, the 'newline equals new sentence' logic is
>> mirrored throughout all autocorrecting Microsoft software that I can
>> think of......
>
> But surely this is nothing to do with autocorrection. We are in text
> entry mode, not autocorrection mode.
>
> It's exactly like typing "My dog <shift+enter> has fleas" in Word.
>
> And when you do that, you get a lower case 'h'.
>
> So, designed in or not, I think it's faulty functionality and would
> support the OP's thought that it should go in as a bug report.
>
> So how is that done?
>
> SteveT

So what's a specific and valid scenario where this is causing you pain? The
more real world any given scenario is, the easier it is to push for a given
notion. =) As a poetry fan, the current behavior makes sense to me. ;-)

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"Mark Conrad" <no-> wrote in message
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> In article <7ABBF8E9-DA7A-4C25-992C->, zachd
> [MSFT] <> wrote:
>
>> If I recall correctly, the 'newline equals new sentence' logic
>> is mirrored throughout all autocorrecting
>> Microsoft software that I can think of...
>
> I do not think so in this case, because there is a
> seperate command named "NewParagraph" specifically
> designed for the purpose you mentioned.
>
> My awkward workaround to get rid of the unwanted
> capitilization is:
>
> "My dog NewLine still LowerCaseThat has fleas Period"
>
> My dog
> still has fleas.
>
>
> ...but needing to apply "LowerCaseThat" to every line
> in my document really slows down the speech app'.
>
> Mark-

"Mark Conrad" wrote:

> Now stop beating around the bush and tell me how to submit
> a formal bug report to Microsoft, PLEASE.

Register for the MSSpeech-Forum at:
http://www.msspeech-forum.com

Several macro programming experts hang out there. Among these is Brad Trott,
the author of, the $9.99 "WSRMacros: The User’s Guide." Also some of the
people from the Microsoft Speech work group monitor the forum. I'm guessing a
simple macro will solve your problem so post what is happening and see if you
receive a solution?

Marty Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc.
See us at: http://www.mymmsspeech.com
New to Windowsâ„¢ Speech Recognition?
See, Getting Started with Windows® Speech Recognition at:
http://www.mymsspeech.com/download/WSRGetStarted.pdf

"Marty Markoe - eMicrophones, Inc."
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SPAM

"B. Smith" wrote:

> SPAM

Hmmm???? Considering the WSRToolkit was designed with suggestions and help
from people in the Microsoft Speech work group I

would think this is good information.

Prior to the release of Vista and WSR, I was invited with a select group of
other speech recognition professionals to Redmond. We

previewed WSR and mad suggestions. I was also asked to develop products to
support WSR.

If this be SPAM to you, please feel free to ignore it. If you look at the
products you may actually see their value (at $15.99 or less). Also, we

make the WSRToolkit FREE to people with disabilities.

Kindly rethink your initial reaction to our postings.

Sincerely,
Martin Markoe, eMicrophones, Inc.

"Mark Conrad" wrote:

> I was just using that NewLine issue to vent my frustration,
> mainly with Microsoft, but also with Nuance.

There is nothing wrong to ask for perfection. The big difference I've found
between Nuance and Microsoft is you actually hear from people at Microsoft.

Marty

PS. I'm probably an older codger than you.