Re-post: Update notification doesn't work

A Repost as my original thread has gone off topic:
Vista Home Premium SP1. Daily use account is a Standard account. WU is set
to notify me of available updates. It does NOT notify me. The "Updates
available" icon NEVER appears. AFAIK it has never worked.

Any solutions?

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Gordon wrote:
> A Repost as my original thread has gone off topic:
> Vista Home Premium SP1. Daily use account is a Standard account. WU is set
> to notify me of available updates. It does NOT notify me. The "Updates
> available" icon NEVER appears. AFAIK it has never worked.
>
> Any solutions?

(cross-post added to Vista Perf & Maint)
"Gordon" <> wrote in message
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>A Repost as my original thread has gone off topic:


No it hasn't. If you don't understand the points being made
you could ask some questions... ; )


> Vista Home Premium SP1. Daily use account is a Standard account. WU is set
> to notify me of available updates. It does NOT notify me. The "Updates
> available" icon NEVER appears. AFAIK it has never worked.
>
> Any solutions?


In addition to replying to PA Bear you should try issuing your
own bitsadmin command (in a cmd window):

bitsadmin /list /allusers

BTW I don't know if your version of Vista provides the
bitsadmin command but I think you could download it from
Microsoft otherwise.

The point is: unless you have been actively scanning and
analysing your WindowsUpdate.log you may be unaware
whether your system has already started downloading Vista SP1.
In addition doing the above bitsadmin command would clarify whether
you have *any* suspended BITS jobs. The empirical evidence seems
to be that as long as there are suspended jobs on BITS
you may not see the AU notification prompt, even for updates
which have already been successfully downloaded. E.g. in my case
that only happened once I had forced the completion of the
XPsp3 download and it had finally showed up in the ReportingEvents.log
(in the SoftwareDistribution directory).


FYI

Robert Aldwinckle
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"Robert Aldwinckle" <> wrote in message
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> (cross-post added to Vista Perf & Maint)
> "Gordon" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>A Repost as my original thread has gone off topic:
>
>
> No it hasn't. If you don't understand the points being made
> you could ask some questions... ; )
>
>


Umm no. There is NO "suspended jobs" - the downloads do NOT happen unless I
run WU manually, so there is NO similarity between my post and the rest of
the thread,
I repeat - I do NOT get ANY notifications of ANY updates even though WU is
set to notify me of available updates.
Sorry, a completely different scenario to that which the replies to my
original post went.

What are you using for a firewall solution and does WU have permission to
get through it?

Incidentally, SP1 won't be offered to a system where it detects
incompatibile drivers. This is done intentionally to avoid loss of
functionality.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Gordon" <> wrote in message
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> "Robert Aldwinckle" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> (cross-post added to Vista Perf & Maint)
>> "Gordon" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>A Repost as my original thread has gone off topic:
>>
>>
>> No it hasn't. If you don't understand the points being made
>> you could ask some questions... ; )
>>
>>
>
>
> Umm no. There is NO "suspended jobs" - the downloads do NOT happen unless
> I run WU manually, so there is NO similarity between my post and the rest
> of the thread,
> I repeat - I do NOT get ANY notifications of ANY updates even though WU is
> set to notify me of available updates.
> Sorry, a completely different scenario to that which the replies to my
> original post went.

"Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
news:...
> What are you using for a firewall solution and does WU have permission to
> get through it?

Built-in Windows Firewall. Default settings as far as I can see. I can't see
an option to allow WU specificly through the firewall. Everything else, but
not WU!
The only think that I changed is that the network is set as Private. Would
that make a difference?

> Incidentally, SP1 won't be offered to a system where it detects
> incompatibile drivers. This is done intentionally to avoid loss of
> functionality.

Got SP1.......

On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:40:49 +0100, "Gordon"
<> wrote:

>The only think that I changed is that the network is set as Private. Would
>that make a difference?

Change it back and see what happens

Hi,

By default, the Windows Firewall will allow Windows Update to go through. I
wanted to ensure the problem wasn't originating in a third-party product.

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Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com

"Gordon" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> What are you using for a firewall solution and does WU have permission to
>> get through it?
>
> Built-in Windows Firewall. Default settings as far as I can see. I can't
> see an option to allow WU specificly through the firewall. Everything
> else, but not WU!
> The only think that I changed is that the network is set as Private. Would
> that make a difference?
>
>> Incidentally, SP1 won't be offered to a system where it detects
>> incompatibile drivers. This is done intentionally to avoid loss of
>> functionality.
>
> Got SP1.......

Gordon wrote:

> A Repost as my original thread has gone off topic:
> Vista Home Premium SP1. Daily use account is a Standard account. WU is
> set to notify me of available updates. It does NOT notify me.

In Windows XP, WU only notified administrators by default. I don't know for
certain Vista behaves the same way, but I suspect it might.

You can change this by setting the ElevateNonAdmins registry key as described in
this document:

<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc708449.aspx>

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc708449.aspx

Harry.

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"Harry Johnston [MVP]" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Gordon wrote:
>
>> A Repost as my original thread has gone off topic:
>> Vista Home Premium SP1. Daily use account is a Standard account. WU is
>> set to notify me of available updates. It does NOT notify me.
>
> In Windows XP, WU only notified administrators by default. I don't know
> for certain Vista behaves the same way, but I suspect it might.
>
> You can change this by setting the ElevateNonAdmins registry key as
> described in this document:
>
> <http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc708449.aspx>
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc708449.aspx
>

The Key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Win dows\WindowsUpdate
doesn't exist - should I create it?