Re: Problem in installing DNS in Windows Server 2003

Please post the actual error message not a link. Most people are not going
to click on the link.

> and when I start DNS.It show message "Cannot contact DNS Server"I set IP
> address and DNS address already. I set DNS Server address "127.0.0.1"

Use the server's actual IP address not 127.0.0.1.


hth
DDS

"dexterMor" <u53265@uwe> wrote in message news:990e522ec5b30@uwe...
>I just install Windows Servr 2003 and I want to create wireless network by
> use this OS.I find the infotmation in setting up wireless network in
> "Technet".The Website tell that it require dns,active directory,etc.
> So I install DNS first.
> But when I select DNS in ADD/REMOVE windows componet and I select "next"
> button to let OS configure my installing, It use much time to configure
> Management
>
> http://img189.imageshack.us/i/dnserror3.jpg/
>
> and monitor tools and then It show error
>
> http://img190.imageshack.us/i/dnserror2.jpg/
> and when I start DNS.It show message "Cannot contact DNS Server"I set IP
> address and DNS address already. I set DNS Server address "127.0.0.1"
>
> http://img240.imageshack.us/i/dnserror.jpg/
>
> I install In Notebook Acer 4720z to try to play this OS first before I do
> practically in My University Lab.
>

"dexterMor via WinServerKB.com" <u53265@uwe> wrote in message
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>I don't know the ip address of DNS OF MY NOTEBOOK.Must I set its ip by
>myself
> by not setting its to 127.0.0.1? which ip address rages I can choose and
> set
> it tu my dns's ipaddress?

I normally make it a habit of not clicking on images, however I had to take
a look. FYI, I did get a popup when I clicked on the first one. Apparently
imageshack takes advantage of popup advertising.

Anyway, it appears that the DNS errors you are getting is because the NICs
are not connected. If you look in the bottom right corner where it shows the
two NICs (assuming one is wireless and the other is the builtin interface)
both have red X's on them. DNS services will not start if the interfaces are
not active.

As for what IP address to use, you need to point it to itself, meaning
whatever the IP address of your laptop is, however this is not practical or
prudent because I am assuming that the laptop is getting an ip configuration
from DHCP, so that means the built in NIC will always get a different IP
address than the wireless interface. So it doesn't really make sense unless
you set a static IP for the network you are on, but in some cases, depending
where you are running your laptop, that will change from location to
location. If you want to do this, you would need to juggle IPs whenever you
move the laptop from one place to another.

What are your goals? Is this notebook intended to be a domain controller, or
you just wanted to experiment with DNS?

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"dexterMor via WinServerKB.com" <u53265@uwe> wrote in message
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>I just install Windows Servr 2003 and I want to create wireless network by
> use this OS.I find the infotmation in setting up wireless network in
> "Technet".The Website tell that it require dns,active directory,etc.
> So I install DNS first.
> But when I select DNS in ADD/REMOVE windows componet and I select "next"
> button to let OS configure my installing, It use much time to configure
> "Management and monitoring tool"
> and then It show error
> "One or more sevice for the Domain Name System component took more than
> allotted time to start. Installation will continue,but service will not
> available untill theyhave started completely."
>
>
>
> and when I start DNS.It show message "Cannot contact DNS Server"I set IP
> address and DNS address already. I set DNS Server address "127.0.0.1"
>
> I install In Notebook Acer 4720z to try to play this OS first before I do
> practically in My University Lab.
>


I'm not sure what article you read, and it would be very helpful to post the
link to the article, as well as quote the exact phrase and a pointer to the
paragraph in the article you are referring to.

To configure a wireless connection, assuming that's what you want to do, you
do not need AD. So the article you are quoting may have been taken out of
context. If you are trying to set this up as an Ad Hoc network, then it is
assumed that there is a DHCP server providing IP configuration for the
network you are connected to in order for it to work.

maybe it might be better to wait until you get a chance to use the lab and
ask the trainer or teacher how to set it up on your own laptop. It also may
be better to use VPC or VMWare to setup a server in a virtual machine so you
can use your laptop without the additional changes DNS, AD, etc, will need
to be made on it.

Ace

"dexterMor via WinServerKB.com" <u53265@uwe> wrote in message
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> Experiment with dns on my laptop before Computer Lab of my university will
> open for Senior Project of the 4th Student.
> I read for microsoft technet for creating Wireless Network.Wireless
> Network
> IN Windows Server 2003 require DNS,DHCP,Active Directory,PKI,RADIUS. So I
> do

I see, it's for educational purposes.

Do you have a link to the Technet article?

Ace

"dexterMor via WinServerKB.com" <u53265@uwe> wrote in message
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> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...86(WS.10).aspx
>

Thank you for posting the link. According to the first paragraph, it states:

"To provide authorization and authentication, automatic IP address
assignment, and name resolution for wireless users, your networking
infrastructure should include the following services:"

This means that if you want to use wireless in an AD infrastructure
utilizing certificate authentication, certificate autoenrollment using GPOs,
and a certificate server, you need all those components listed in the
article.

I'm not sure if you are aware of it or not, but this is a very complicated
setup. I set this up with one of my clients a couple of years ago using a
Cisco Aironet 1231 Wireless AP and it took me about two weeks before I got
it setup correctly.

And yes, you need Active Directory, which requires DNS, then you need a
separate server for your Certificate Authority (you could install it on a DC
but not recommended) in order to create a PKI for the domain, an IAS server
(Windows version of RADIUS), a wireless laptop to test it, as well as a
wireless Access Point, such as a Cisco AP, (there are others you can choose
from), that supports certificates authentication, TKIP, EAP, as well as
RADIUS.

This is a very complex setup.

You could probably install this all on one laptop, but the laptop needs to
be a beefy laptop, with plenty of RAM and diskspace, as well as a strong
CPU. You still need a wireless access point, too, as well as another laptop
to test it. However, I really do not recommend it on one laptop, rather it
needs multiple servers, and besides, it will utilize all the resources of
your laptop to the point you won't be able to run anything else.

I would suggest installing this on a PC using Virtual PC, and create virtual
machine, one each for a DC, a RRAS server with IAS installed, and another
virtual machine for Certificate Services.

And as I mentioned in an earlier post, the DNS error you were getting was
because the NICs were not connected to anything and had no IP addresses. The
NICs need to be online (connected), enabled and configured for DNS to run,
as well as any other service to run that requires network services.

Good luck with everything. Let us know how you make out.

Ace

"dexterMor via WinServerKB.com" <u53265@uwe> wrote in message
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> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...86(WS.10).aspx

dexterMor,

For additional information, here are some articles on how to set up
Microsoft CA's and deploy certificates to users. I hope you find them
helpful.

Wireless and PKI:

AD CS Step-By-Step Guide (about setting up a CA with wireless and
autoenrollment):
http://www.microsoft.com/DOWNLOADS/d...displaylang=en

Request a certificate
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc784473.aspx

Submit a user certificate request via the Web to a Windows Server 2003 CA
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc783058.aspx

Configure Certificate Autoenrollment
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc731522.aspx

Best Practices for Implementing a Microsoft Windows Server2003 Public Key
Infrastructure
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../ws3pkibp.mspx

Implementing and Administering Certificate Templates in Windows Server 2003
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc783016.aspx

PKI Enhancements in Windows XP Professional and Windows Server 2003
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...an/pkienh.mspx

Windows Server 2003 PKI Operations Guide
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../ws03pkog.mspx

Managing a Windows Server 2003 Public Key Infrastructure
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...ty/mngpki.mspx

Advanced Certificate Enrollment and Management
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...y/advcert.mspx

Certificate Autoenrollment in Windows Server 2003:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro.../autoenro.mspx

Selecting Certificate Templates Public Key (need enterprise to make
autoenrollment work):
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...0d0ef4e9a.mspx

Configure a certificate template for client autoenrollment:
http://technet2.microsoft.com/Window...00a8e1033.mspx

Ace

"dexterMor via WinServerKB.com" <u53265@uwe> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your comment. Do I seperate DNS from my laptop? I mean DNS is
> external device or not because the error show that I don't connect my
> laptop
> to DNS.Is it not a buit-in device?

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're saying or asking. DNS is an
application that runs as a Service and is installed as a Windows component
under Add/Remove Windows Components. DNS is not a device. So I'm not sure
what you're asking.

If I understand, by asking if you "separate" DNS, I believe you are asking
to remove the DNS service? If you are going to setup your lab using virtual
machines, then DNS will not be required on your laptop, so yes, you can
uninstall it. You would install Windows 2003 into a virtual machine, and
then install DNS and other necessary components for your lab.

The error you were receiving while you were adding the DNS service was
telling you that the DNS Service could not start because the network cards
were not connected.

As for normal operation of your laptop, you don't need the DNS Service. When
your laptop connects either by plugging in a network wire from your switch
to your NIC or you connect to a wireless AP, you will get an automatic IP
configuration that includes the company's, your school's or your home
network's DNS settings from your ISP.

Ace