Re: RAM Problem Update!

Received the Kingston yesterday. Installed it and Windows Experience bumped
back up to 5.5, which is where it started. I thought adding the xtra 2GB
would bring the score up.

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Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.



"Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message news:...
> Thanks, Carey.
>
> --
>
> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>
>
>
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
> news:AA9A490B-2DBD-463D-89CF-...
>> According to Corsair, your new Corsair RAM is designed to work properly
>> with 1.9 Volts
>> and your existing RAM and motherboard supports only 1.8 Volts. This
>> discrepancy is likely
>> causing the issue with WEI. I would recommend returning your Corsair RAM
>> and purchasing
>> Kingston RAM rated at 1.8 Volts.
>>
>> Use the Kingston RAM Configurator: http://www.kingston.com/
>>
>> This mismatched RAM voltage has caused your overall Memory Frequency to
>> be knocked down to
>> 333.3 MHz (should be 400 MHz) and results in the lower WEI score.
>>
>>
>>
>> ">" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
>> news:#...
>> It's fixed. I reinstalled each stick one at a time. I must not have had
>> a
>> stick seated properly. Now for another amazing development. My Windows
>> Experience rating for RAM dropped from 5.5 to 5.2 . WTF???????? How is
>> that possible after adding another 2GB???
>>
>> --
>>
>> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>> news:F204186E-6EEE-4895-AA7C-...
>>> Since you mentioned you have a Dell XPS 630i computer, its likely you
>>> cannot adjust the RAM timing (voltages) in the motherboard's BIOS.
>>> Are you sure the RAM you installed is the same specifications as the
>>> existing RAM? I would suggest running CPU-Z to find out.
>>>
>>> CPU-Z (free): http://www.cpuid.com/index.php
>>>
>>>
>>> ">" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:#...
>>> Rick,
>>> Now about a BIG help on doing that? I haven't a clue.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
>>> news:%...
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> So the problem is in the hardware layer. Try setting the ram timing
>>>> manually rather than relying on automatic detection. It's not unusual
>>>> to
>>>> have to do this when you reach a motherboard's maximum capacity.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>
>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>> "Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
>>>> news:%...
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
>>>>> news:...
>>>>>> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What is the BIOS reporting?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Never thought of that. I'll check now.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>>>>>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just the 6GB.
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>>>>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>

The Windows experience score is not a valid test of computer performance in
any way, shape or form.
In my experience with Vista the most limiting factor is how fast data can be
read/write off the hard drive.
Vista32 has the slowest disc access of any Microsoft OS.
Anyone who has dual booted XP and Vista on the same machine and hard drive
can attest to this. I still suspect this is one reason why Microsoft
discourages XP/Vista dual booting by deliberately wiping out Vista's restore
files if you dare to dual boot to XP. There is no technical reason why the
restore files have to be wiped out but if you dual boot to XP you will
immediately wonder why your computer seems so much slower in Vista32.
There is little difference running Vista on most machines for the tasks most
people pursue even going from 1 to 3 gbs or changing from mobo based
graphics to a discrete graphics card.
Vista 64 is actually faster in everyday use on the appropriate machine,
which may be why you now see Vista 64 on middle and low end laptops.
Unfortunately Vista64 drivers are often not as functional as Vista32 drivers
and may not even exist for recent hardware.
My experience with the Win7/Vista SP3 64 bit beta suggests early adapters
will be in for a world of hurt with regard to drivers when that service pack
is sold as a new OS in the next few months.
Hopefully Microsoft will be in for a world of painfully expensive legal
challenges for vending that upgrade as a "new" OS.

"Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
news:...
> Received the Kingston yesterday. Installed it and Windows Experience
> bumped back up to 5.5, which is where it started. I thought adding the
> xtra 2GB would bring the score up.
>
> --
>
> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>
>
>
> "Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message news:...
>> Thanks, Carey.
>>
>> --
>>
>> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>> news:AA9A490B-2DBD-463D-89CF-...
>>> According to Corsair, your new Corsair RAM is designed to work properly
>>> with 1.9 Volts
>>> and your existing RAM and motherboard supports only 1.8 Volts. This
>>> discrepancy is likely
>>> causing the issue with WEI. I would recommend returning your Corsair
>>> RAM and purchasing
>>> Kingston RAM rated at 1.8 Volts.
>>>
>>> Use the Kingston RAM Configurator: http://www.kingston.com/
>>>
>>> This mismatched RAM voltage has caused your overall Memory Frequency to
>>> be knocked down to
>>> 333.3 MHz (should be 400 MHz) and results in the lower WEI score.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ">" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:#...
>>> It's fixed. I reinstalled each stick one at a time. I must not have
>>> had a
>>> stick seated properly. Now for another amazing development. My Windows
>>> Experience rating for RAM dropped from 5.5 to 5.2 . WTF???????? How is
>>> that possible after adding another 2GB???
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" <> wrote in message
>>> news:F204186E-6EEE-4895-AA7C-...
>>>> Since you mentioned you have a Dell XPS 630i computer, its likely you
>>>> cannot adjust the RAM timing (voltages) in the motherboard's BIOS.
>>>> Are you sure the RAM you installed is the same specifications as the
>>>> existing RAM? I would suggest running CPU-Z to find out.
>>>>
>>>> CPU-Z (free): http://www.cpuid.com/index.php
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ">" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
>>>> news:#...
>>>> Rick,
>>>> Now about a BIG help on doing that? I haven't a clue.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>>>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:%...
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> So the problem is in the hardware layer. Try setting the ram timing
>>>>> manually rather than relying on automatic detection. It's not unusual
>>>>> to
>>>>> have to do this when you reach a motherboard's maximum capacity.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>>> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
>>>>> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
>>>>> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>>>>>
>>>>> "Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>> "Rick Rogers" <> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:...
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What is the BIOS reporting?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Best of Luck,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Never thought of that. I'll check now.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>>>>>>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just the 6GB.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>>>>>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
>


That score is ok, and would probably only rise if you had matching sticks of
the most expensive memory available..


--

Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

"pupick" <> wrote in message
news:1419208D-5177-4E98-8A90-...
> The Windows experience score is not a valid test of computer performance
> in any way, shape or form.

Thanks.

> In my experience with Vista the most limiting factor is how fast data can
> be read/write off the hard drive.
> Vista32 has the slowest disc access of any Microsoft OS.
> Anyone who has dual booted XP and Vista on the same machine and hard drive
> can attest to this. I still suspect this is one reason why Microsoft
> discourages XP/Vista dual booting by deliberately wiping out Vista's
> restore files if you dare to dual boot to XP. There is no technical reason
> why the restore files have to be wiped out but if you dual boot to XP you
> will immediately wonder why your computer seems so much slower in Vista32.
> There is little difference running Vista on most machines for the tasks
> most people pursue even going from 1 to 3 gbs or changing from mobo based
> graphics to a discrete graphics card.
> Vista 64 is actually faster in everyday use on the appropriate machine,
> which may be why you now see Vista 64 on middle and low end laptops.
> Unfortunately Vista64 drivers are often not as functional as Vista32
> drivers and may not even exist for recent hardware.
> My experience with the Win7/Vista SP3 64 bit beta suggests early adapters
> will be in for a world of hurt with regard to drivers when that service
> pack is sold as a new OS in the next few months.
> Hopefully Microsoft will be in for a world of painfully expensive legal
> challenges for vending that upgrade as a "new" OS.

Erm......This seems an awful loooooong sig.
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Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

"Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
news:...
> "Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
> news:...
>> Received the Kingston yesterday. Installed it and Windows Experience
>> bumped back up to 5.5, which is where it started. I thought adding the
>> xtra 2GB would bring the score up.
>
> That score is ok, and would probably only rise if you had matching sticks
> of the most expensive memory available..
>
>
> --
>
> Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

Thanks, Mike. The Kingston was twice as expensive as the Corsair.
Whatever. I'll settle for 5.5 and 8GB memory. This thing runs like
lightening.

Btw. I only top post when I have to respond to a top poster. I gave up on
the top post/bottom post war 12 years ago.
--

Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

"Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
news:...
>
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>> "Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> Received the Kingston yesterday. Installed it and Windows Experience
>>> bumped back up to 5.5, which is where it started. I thought adding the
>>> xtra 2GB would bring the score up.
>>
>> That score is ok, and would probably only rise if you had matching sticks
>> of the most expensive memory available..
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
>
> Thanks, Mike. The Kingston was twice as expensive as the Corsair.
> Whatever. I'll settle for 5.5 and 8GB memory. This thing runs like
> lightening.
>
> Btw. I only top post when I have to respond to a top poster. I gave up
> on the top post/bottom post war 12 years ago.
> --
>
> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>
>
>


Mike, you can pay silly money for super high performance RAM.. way more that
Kingston sticks..


--

Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

"Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> "Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>> "Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> Received the Kingston yesterday. Installed it and Windows Experience
>>>> bumped back up to 5.5, which is where it started. I thought adding the
>>>> xtra 2GB would bring the score up.
>>>
>>> That score is ok, and would probably only rise if you had matching
>>> sticks of the most expensive memory available..
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
>>
>> Thanks, Mike. The Kingston was twice as expensive as the Corsair.
>> Whatever. I'll settle for 5.5 and 8GB memory. This thing runs like
>> lightening.
>>
>> Btw. I only top post when I have to respond to a top poster. I gave up
>> on the top post/bottom post war 12 years ago.
>> --
>>
>> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Mike, you can pay silly money for super high performance RAM.. way more
> that Kingston sticks..

I'm not *that* silly. Thanks, again, for your help.
--

Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.

"Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
news:%...
> "Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> "Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
>> news:...
>>>
>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>> "Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> Received the Kingston yesterday. Installed it and Windows Experience
>>>>> bumped back up to 5.5, which is where it started. I thought adding
>>>>> the xtra 2GB would bring the score up.
>>>>
>>>> That score is ok, and would probably only rise if you had matching
>>>> sticks of the most expensive memory available..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
>>>
>>> Thanks, Mike. The Kingston was twice as expensive as the Corsair.
>>> Whatever. I'll settle for 5.5 and 8GB memory. This thing runs like
>>> lightening.
>>>
>>> Btw. I only top post when I have to respond to a top poster. I gave up
>>> on the top post/bottom post war 12 years ago.
>>> --
>>>
>>> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Mike, you can pay silly money for super high performance RAM.. way more
>> that Kingston sticks..
>
> I'm not *that* silly. Thanks, again, for your help.
> --
>
> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>
>
>


Me either.. cheap is fun..

--

Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/

"Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
news:OSnBur%...
> "Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
> news:%...
>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
>> news:%...
>>> "Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
>>> news:...
>>>>
>>>> "Mike Hall - MVP" <> wrote in message
>>>> news:...
>>>>> "Mike @gmail.com>" <rathbunger<nospam> wrote in message
>>>>> news:...
>>>>>> Received the Kingston yesterday. Installed it and Windows Experience
>>>>>> bumped back up to 5.5, which is where it started. I thought adding
>>>>>> the xtra 2GB would bring the score up.
>>>>>
>>>>> That score is ok, and would probably only rise if you had matching
>>>>> sticks of the most expensive memory available..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike Hall - MVP Windows Experience
>>>>> http://msmvps.com/blogs/mikehall/
>>>>
>>>> Thanks, Mike. The Kingston was twice as expensive as the Corsair.
>>>> Whatever. I'll settle for 5.5 and 8GB memory. This thing runs like
>>>> lightening.
>>>>
>>>> Btw. I only top post when I have to respond to a top poster. I gave
>>>> up on the top post/bottom post war 12 years ago.
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>>>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Mike, you can pay silly money for super high performance RAM.. way more
>>> that Kingston sticks..
>>
>> I'm not *that* silly. Thanks, again, for your help.
>> --
>>
>> Don't pick a fight with an old man.
>> If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Me either.. cheap is fun..

Not when you're married.
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Don't pick a fight with an old man.
If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.