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int_spy
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      06-18-2004
Rob,

Here is the complication. How is the notification sent and how do the
server know where to sent it? How do you configure this?

In my case, I am actually using a PPC connected either via WiFi or Bluetooth
to my mobile phone and uses GPRS. Does it work in these configurations?

If not, I am think of an alternative. Receive a notification on my mobile
phone and I can do the sync manually.

Do you mind explaining the basic working of this function. I am really
interested. I don't really like the idea of polling the server for new
mails. A real waste of GPRS traffic.

BTW, I had try looking for docs on this at MS's website. Why is it so
difficult to find information on this?!

Thanks for the information so far.

"Rob" <> wrote in message
news:...
> The notifications through GPRS come as a special SMS packet. The SMS

packet
> wakes up the phone and triggers an activesync with the server. No VPN,

LAN
> or WAN connection is required. To set it up, you need to do the

following:
>
> 1. Unless you have a root authority certificate on your mail server,

disable
> certificate checking on the device. This came from
>

http://www.cewindows.net/faqs/active...tion%20Errors:,
> great help!
> 2. Set up the device to sync with the server. Under activesync, choose
> server and enter the information. Make sure you use your public mail

domain
> for the Exchange server in the server configuration....probably something
> like mail.yourdomain.com. Enter in your username/password/domain. Check
> SSL so your password is not sent in clear text.
>
> If you are still having troubles, there are two other things to check.

The
> first is that there is a hotfix from Microsoft that adds a "from" value to
> the SMS message to the device. The hotfix is available for Exchange 2003
> preSP1 and postSP1. It was not included in SP1. The knowledge base

article
> is 841995 (see
> http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;841995). Some
> mobile providers block messages without From values because they may be
> spam.
>
> The second thing to check is to turn on logging on the Exchange server to
> make sure the SMS message is sent to the device. You can do this under
> system manager and enable logging for the server activesync. When a new
> message comes into your inbox (if you've select to receive items as they
> arrive), you will see two items in the event log that will tell you the
> message was processed, and that a message was dropped in the dropdir to
> - should be your SMS message.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Rob
>
>
> "int_spy" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
> > Is it possible to set up the always up-to-date feature to work with

> cellular
> > network or does it works only with LAN or WAN with VPN? I presume that

is
> > it sends a notification when u receive a new mail?
> >
> > As for VPN thru cellular, I tried doing it thru GPRS. Couldn't get it

to
> > connect for some reason...
> >
> > "Rob" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> > > I've just recently purchased the Audiovox PPC4100. We had to do a

> little
> > > work on the backend to get up-to-date notifications to work with our
> > > Exchange server...but not that hard. I also have a SD wifi card from
> > > SanDisk that I use when I can to get faster synchronization.
> > >
> > > I can switch between the modes by changing from GPRS to the WiFi card
> > > (about 3 clicks). I tried setting up the VPN to sync with my laptop

in
> > the
> > > office, but had problems getting TCPIP to work with the cellular

gateway
> > > (couldn't ping any internal servers/machines).
> > >
> > > Overall, I don't think the server sync is that difficult and believe

> > people
> > > will quickly learn how to switch betwen wifi and cellular should they

so
> > > choose. Up-to-date notifications are a "special" SMS packet that

wakes
> up
> > > the device and starts an activesync. It is pretty cool...I use it all

> the
> > > time.
> > >
> > > Probably not appropriate, but we offer these services to customers on

a
> > > month-to-month rental basis with a server on their premise
> > > (www.ipremise.net) in case you are looking at a low cost way to get

SQL
> > > Server/Exchange/etc. in your offices without a long-term committment.

> > We've
> > > standardized up-to-date notifications and OMA on all our machines to

TRY
> > to
> > > make this easy!
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > >
> > > "MagGyver" <> wrote in message
> > > news:%...
> > > > Hello,
> > > > We're designing a centralized database for our growing company and

are
> > > > exploring how to use PPCs in the mix. I know next to nothing about

> their
> > > > extended sync capabilities. Here's what we'd like to do - perhaps

> > someone
> > > > can help shed some light on this:
> > > >
> > > > Small P2P network behind a NAT router with DSL. No Exhange Server

but
> > > > everyone uses Outlook (2000 or 2002). We're exploring Web-based

> contact
> > &
> > > > calendar management options which will be able to sync on an

automated
> > > basis
> > > > with each user's Outlook and would like to have the option to sync

> PPCs
> > > > remotely to the Outlook workstations via WiFi (or using some sort of
> > > > cellular network when WiFi not available).
> > > >
> > > > The questions which come to mind in this scenario are:
> > > >
> > > > - Is it difficult to configure PPCs to sync via the different

networks
> > > (WiFi
> > > > vs. cellular)?
> > > > - Is it possible to alter the port(s) used for sync so we can use

port
> > > > forwarding for multiple users on the router?
> > > > - I've read a bit about Always-Up-To-Date configuration. How does

> this
> > > > differ in method to using WiFi/cellular to sync? Is it a

complementary
> > > > method or an alternative one?
> > > >
> > > > Many thanks for any feedback anyone has to offer.
> > > >
> > > > MagGyver, scratching her head on this one
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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int_spy
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      06-18-2004
I think I know what the problem is. Am I right in saying that it is not
possible to set this on a non-Phone Edition PPC?

I have finally located documents on how to set this but I cannot find the
required field in Activesync.

I think it is a bit lame that this can't be set on the Desktop or server
side.

Can someone confirm this?

"int_spy" <> wrote in message
news:O%...
> Rob,
>
> Here is the complication. How is the notification sent and how do the
> server know where to sent it? How do you configure this?
>
> In my case, I am actually using a PPC connected either via WiFi or

Bluetooth
> to my mobile phone and uses GPRS. Does it work in these configurations?
>
> If not, I am think of an alternative. Receive a notification on my mobile
> phone and I can do the sync manually.
>
> Do you mind explaining the basic working of this function. I am really
> interested. I don't really like the idea of polling the server for new
> mails. A real waste of GPRS traffic.
>
> BTW, I had try looking for docs on this at MS's website. Why is it so
> difficult to find information on this?!
>
> Thanks for the information so far.
>
> "Rob" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > The notifications through GPRS come as a special SMS packet. The SMS

> packet
> > wakes up the phone and triggers an activesync with the server. No VPN,

> LAN
> > or WAN connection is required. To set it up, you need to do the

> following:
> >
> > 1. Unless you have a root authority certificate on your mail server,

> disable
> > certificate checking on the device. This came from
> >

>

http://www.cewindows.net/faqs/active...tion%20Errors:,
> > great help!
> > 2. Set up the device to sync with the server. Under activesync, choose
> > server and enter the information. Make sure you use your public mail

> domain
> > for the Exchange server in the server configuration....probably

something
> > like mail.yourdomain.com. Enter in your username/password/domain.

Check
> > SSL so your password is not sent in clear text.
> >
> > If you are still having troubles, there are two other things to check.

> The
> > first is that there is a hotfix from Microsoft that adds a "from" value

to
> > the SMS message to the device. The hotfix is available for Exchange

2003
> > preSP1 and postSP1. It was not included in SP1. The knowledge base

> article
> > is 841995 (see
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;841995). Some
> > mobile providers block messages without From values because they may be
> > spam.
> >
> > The second thing to check is to turn on logging on the Exchange server

to
> > make sure the SMS message is sent to the device. You can do this under
> > system manager and enable logging for the server activesync. When a new
> > message comes into your inbox (if you've select to receive items as they
> > arrive), you will see two items in the event log that will tell you the
> > message was processed, and that a message was dropped in the dropdir to
> > - should be your SMS message.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > "int_spy" <> wrote in message
> > news:%...
> > > Is it possible to set up the always up-to-date feature to work with

> > cellular
> > > network or does it works only with LAN or WAN with VPN? I presume

that
> is
> > > it sends a notification when u receive a new mail?
> > >
> > > As for VPN thru cellular, I tried doing it thru GPRS. Couldn't get it

> to
> > > connect for some reason...
> > >
> > > "Rob" <> wrote in message
> > > news:...
> > > > I've just recently purchased the Audiovox PPC4100. We had to do a

> > little
> > > > work on the backend to get up-to-date notifications to work with our
> > > > Exchange server...but not that hard. I also have a SD wifi card

from
> > > > SanDisk that I use when I can to get faster synchronization.
> > > >
> > > > I can switch between the modes by changing from GPRS to the WiFi

card
> > > > (about 3 clicks). I tried setting up the VPN to sync with my laptop

> in
> > > the
> > > > office, but had problems getting TCPIP to work with the cellular

> gateway
> > > > (couldn't ping any internal servers/machines).
> > > >
> > > > Overall, I don't think the server sync is that difficult and believe
> > > people
> > > > will quickly learn how to switch betwen wifi and cellular should

they
> so
> > > > choose. Up-to-date notifications are a "special" SMS packet that

> wakes
> > up
> > > > the device and starts an activesync. It is pretty cool...I use it

all
> > the
> > > > time.
> > > >
> > > > Probably not appropriate, but we offer these services to customers

on
> a
> > > > month-to-month rental basis with a server on their premise
> > > > (www.ipremise.net) in case you are looking at a low cost way to get

> SQL
> > > > Server/Exchange/etc. in your offices without a long-term

committment.
> > > We've
> > > > standardized up-to-date notifications and OMA on all our machines to

> TRY
> > > to
> > > > make this easy!
> > > >
> > > > Good luck!
> > > >
> > > > Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "MagGyver" <> wrote in message
> > > > news:%...
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > > We're designing a centralized database for our growing company and

> are
> > > > > exploring how to use PPCs in the mix. I know next to nothing about

> > their
> > > > > extended sync capabilities. Here's what we'd like to do - perhaps
> > > someone
> > > > > can help shed some light on this:
> > > > >
> > > > > Small P2P network behind a NAT router with DSL. No Exhange Server

> but
> > > > > everyone uses Outlook (2000 or 2002). We're exploring Web-based

> > contact
> > > &
> > > > > calendar management options which will be able to sync on an

> automated
> > > > basis
> > > > > with each user's Outlook and would like to have the option to sync

> > PPCs
> > > > > remotely to the Outlook workstations via WiFi (or using some sort

of
> > > > > cellular network when WiFi not available).
> > > > >
> > > > > The questions which come to mind in this scenario are:
> > > > >
> > > > > - Is it difficult to configure PPCs to sync via the different

> networks
> > > > (WiFi
> > > > > vs. cellular)?
> > > > > - Is it possible to alter the port(s) used for sync so we can use

> port
> > > > > forwarding for multiple users on the router?
> > > > > - I've read a bit about Always-Up-To-Date configuration. How does

> > this
> > > > > differ in method to using WiFi/cellular to sync? Is it a

> complementary
> > > > > method or an alternative one?
> > > > >
> > > > > Many thanks for any feedback anyone has to offer.
> > > > >
> > > > > MagGyver, scratching her head on this one
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >

> >
> >

>
>



 
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