Re: Remote sync with Outlook via WiFi or other alternatives

Is it possible to set up the always up-to-date feature to work with cellular
network or does it works only with LAN or WAN with VPN? I presume that is
it sends a notification when u receive a new mail?

As for VPN thru cellular, I tried doing it thru GPRS. Couldn't get it to
connect for some reason...

"Rob" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I've just recently purchased the Audiovox PPC4100. We had to do a little
> work on the backend to get up-to-date notifications to work with our
> Exchange server...but not that hard. I also have a SD wifi card from
> SanDisk that I use when I can to get faster synchronization.
>
> I can switch between the modes by changing from GPRS to the WiFi card
> (about 3 clicks). I tried setting up the VPN to sync with my laptop in
the
> office, but had problems getting TCPIP to work with the cellular gateway
> (couldn't ping any internal servers/machines).
>
> Overall, I don't think the server sync is that difficult and believe
people
> will quickly learn how to switch betwen wifi and cellular should they so
> choose. Up-to-date notifications are a "special" SMS packet that wakes up
> the device and starts an activesync. It is pretty cool...I use it all the
> time.
>
> Probably not appropriate, but we offer these services to customers on a
> month-to-month rental basis with a server on their premise
> (www.ipremise.net) in case you are looking at a low cost way to get SQL
> Server/Exchange/etc. in your offices without a long-term committment.
We've
> standardized up-to-date notifications and OMA on all our machines to TRY
to
> make this easy!
>
> Good luck!
>
> Rob
>
>
> "MagGyver" <> wrote in message
> news:%...
> > Hello,
> > We're designing a centralized database for our growing company and are
> > exploring how to use PPCs in the mix. I know next to nothing about their
> > extended sync capabilities. Here's what we'd like to do - perhaps
someone
> > can help shed some light on this:
> >
> > Small P2P network behind a NAT router with DSL. No Exhange Server but
> > everyone uses Outlook (2000 or 2002). We're exploring Web-based contact
&
> > calendar management options which will be able to sync on an automated
> basis
> > with each user's Outlook and would like to have the option to sync PPCs
> > remotely to the Outlook workstations via WiFi (or using some sort of
> > cellular network when WiFi not available).
> >
> > The questions which come to mind in this scenario are:
> >
> > - Is it difficult to configure PPCs to sync via the different networks
> (WiFi
> > vs. cellular)?
> > - Is it possible to alter the port(s) used for sync so we can use port
> > forwarding for multiple users on the router?
> > - I've read a bit about Always-Up-To-Date configuration. How does this
> > differ in method to using WiFi/cellular to sync? Is it a complementary
> > method or an alternative one?
> >
> > Many thanks for any feedback anyone has to offer.
> >
> > MagGyver, scratching her head on this one
> >
> >
>
>

Anybody using a PPC (not Phone edition) hv the "Device Address" in ur PPC
ActiveSync settings in the Options dialog under the "Server" tab?

"int_spy" <> wrote in message
news:...
> I think I know what the problem is. Am I right in saying that it is not
> possible to set this on a non-Phone Edition PPC?
>
> I have finally located documents on how to set this but I cannot find the
> required field in Activesync.
>
> I think it is a bit lame that this can't be set on the Desktop or server
> side.
>
> Can someone confirm this?
>
> "int_spy" <> wrote in message
> news:O%...
> > Rob,
> >
> > Here is the complication. How is the notification sent and how do the
> > server know where to sent it? How do you configure this?
> >
> > In my case, I am actually using a PPC connected either via WiFi or
> Bluetooth
> > to my mobile phone and uses GPRS. Does it work in these configurations?
> >
> > If not, I am think of an alternative. Receive a notification on my
mobile
> > phone and I can do the sync manually.
> >
> > Do you mind explaining the basic working of this function. I am really
> > interested. I don't really like the idea of polling the server for new
> > mails. A real waste of GPRS traffic.
> >
> > BTW, I had try looking for docs on this at MS's website. Why is it so
> > difficult to find information on this?!
> >
> > Thanks for the information so far.
> >
> > "Rob" <> wrote in message
> > news:...
> > > The notifications through GPRS come as a special SMS packet. The SMS
> > packet
> > > wakes up the phone and triggers an activesync with the server. No
VPN,
> > LAN
> > > or WAN connection is required. To set it up, you need to do the
> > following:
> > >
> > > 1. Unless you have a root authority certificate on your mail server,
> > disable
> > > certificate checking on the device. This came from
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cewindows.net/faqs/active...tion%20Errors:,
> > > great help!
> > > 2. Set up the device to sync with the server. Under activesync,
choose
> > > server and enter the information. Make sure you use your public mail
> > domain
> > > for the Exchange server in the server configuration....probably
> something
> > > like mail.yourdomain.com. Enter in your username/password/domain.
> Check
> > > SSL so your password is not sent in clear text.
> > >
> > > If you are still having troubles, there are two other things to check.
> > The
> > > first is that there is a hotfix from Microsoft that adds a "from"
value
> to
> > > the SMS message to the device. The hotfix is available for Exchange
> 2003
> > > preSP1 and postSP1. It was not included in SP1. The knowledge base
> > article
> > > is 841995 (see
> > > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;841995). Some
> > > mobile providers block messages without From values because they may
be
> > > spam.
> > >
> > > The second thing to check is to turn on logging on the Exchange server
> to
> > > make sure the SMS message is sent to the device. You can do this
under
> > > system manager and enable logging for the server activesync. When a
new
> > > message comes into your inbox (if you've select to receive items as
they
> > > arrive), you will see two items in the event log that will tell you
the
> > > message was processed, and that a message was dropped in the dropdir
to
> > > - should be your SMS message.
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > > Rob
> > >
> > >
> > > "int_spy" <> wrote in message
> > > news:%...
> > > > Is it possible to set up the always up-to-date feature to work with
> > > cellular
> > > > network or does it works only with LAN or WAN with VPN? I presume
> that
> > is
> > > > it sends a notification when u receive a new mail?
> > > >
> > > > As for VPN thru cellular, I tried doing it thru GPRS. Couldn't get
it
> > to
> > > > connect for some reason...
> > > >
> > > > "Rob" <> wrote in message
> > > > news:...
> > > > > I've just recently purchased the Audiovox PPC4100. We had to do a
> > > little
> > > > > work on the backend to get up-to-date notifications to work with
our
> > > > > Exchange server...but not that hard. I also have a SD wifi card
> from
> > > > > SanDisk that I use when I can to get faster synchronization.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can switch between the modes by changing from GPRS to the WiFi
> card
> > > > > (about 3 clicks). I tried setting up the VPN to sync with my
laptop
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > office, but had problems getting TCPIP to work with the cellular
> > gateway
> > > > > (couldn't ping any internal servers/machines).
> > > > >
> > > > > Overall, I don't think the server sync is that difficult and
believe
> > > > people
> > > > > will quickly learn how to switch betwen wifi and cellular should
> they
> > so
> > > > > choose. Up-to-date notifications are a "special" SMS packet that
> > wakes
> > > up
> > > > > the device and starts an activesync. It is pretty cool...I use it
> all
> > > the
> > > > > time.
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably not appropriate, but we offer these services to customers
> on
> > a
> > > > > month-to-month rental basis with a server on their premise
> > > > > (www.ipremise.net) in case you are looking at a low cost way to
get
> > SQL
> > > > > Server/Exchange/etc. in your offices without a long-term
> committment.
> > > > We've
> > > > > standardized up-to-date notifications and OMA on all our machines
to
> > TRY
> > > > to
> > > > > make this easy!
> > > > >
> > > > > Good luck!
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "MagGyver" <> wrote in message
> > > > > news:%...
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > We're designing a centralized database for our growing company
and
> > are
> > > > > > exploring how to use PPCs in the mix. I know next to nothing
about
> > > their
> > > > > > extended sync capabilities. Here's what we'd like to do -
perhaps
> > > > someone
> > > > > > can help shed some light on this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Small P2P network behind a NAT router with DSL. No Exhange
Server
> > but
> > > > > > everyone uses Outlook (2000 or 2002). We're exploring Web-based
> > > contact
> > > > &
> > > > > > calendar management options which will be able to sync on an
> > automated
> > > > > basis
> > > > > > with each user's Outlook and would like to have the option to
sync
> > > PPCs
> > > > > > remotely to the Outlook workstations via WiFi (or using some
sort
> of
> > > > > > cellular network when WiFi not available).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The questions which come to mind in this scenario are:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Is it difficult to configure PPCs to sync via the different
> > networks
> > > > > (WiFi
> > > > > > vs. cellular)?
> > > > > > - Is it possible to alter the port(s) used for sync so we can
use
> > port
> > > > > > forwarding for multiple users on the router?
> > > > > > - I've read a bit about Always-Up-To-Date configuration. How
does
> > > this
> > > > > > differ in method to using WiFi/cellular to sync? Is it a
> > complementary
> > > > > > method or an alternative one?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Many thanks for any feedback anyone has to offer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MagGyver, scratching her head on this one
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

You cannot set the device ID without the phone edition. Otherwise it cannot
receive the SMS message. You can sync a non-Phone Edition device with the
server, but it will not receive the notifications, wake up and sync. Only
the phone edition can do this as far as I am aware.

Rob

"int_spy" <> wrote in message
news:%...
> Anybody using a PPC (not Phone edition) hv the "Device Address" in ur PPC
> ActiveSync settings in the Options dialog under the "Server" tab?
>
> "int_spy" <> wrote in message
> news:...
> > I think I know what the problem is. Am I right in saying that it is not
> > possible to set this on a non-Phone Edition PPC?
> >
> > I have finally located documents on how to set this but I cannot find
the
> > required field in Activesync.
> >
> > I think it is a bit lame that this can't be set on the Desktop or server
> > side.
> >
> > Can someone confirm this?
> >
> > "int_spy" <> wrote in message
> > news:O%...
> > > Rob,
> > >
> > > Here is the complication. How is the notification sent and how do the
> > > server know where to sent it? How do you configure this?
> > >
> > > In my case, I am actually using a PPC connected either via WiFi or
> > Bluetooth
> > > to my mobile phone and uses GPRS. Does it work in these
configurations?
> > >
> > > If not, I am think of an alternative. Receive a notification on my
> mobile
> > > phone and I can do the sync manually.
> > >
> > > Do you mind explaining the basic working of this function. I am
really
> > > interested. I don't really like the idea of polling the server for
new
> > > mails. A real waste of GPRS traffic.
> > >
> > > BTW, I had try looking for docs on this at MS's website. Why is it so
> > > difficult to find information on this?!
> > >
> > > Thanks for the information so far.
> > >
> > > "Rob" <> wrote in message
> > > news:...
> > > > The notifications through GPRS come as a special SMS packet. The
SMS
> > > packet
> > > > wakes up the phone and triggers an activesync with the server. No
> VPN,
> > > LAN
> > > > or WAN connection is required. To set it up, you need to do the
> > > following:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Unless you have a root authority certificate on your mail server,
> > > disable
> > > > certificate checking on the device. This came from
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.cewindows.net/faqs/active...tion%20Errors:,
> > > > great help!
> > > > 2. Set up the device to sync with the server. Under activesync,
> choose
> > > > server and enter the information. Make sure you use your public
mail
> > > domain
> > > > for the Exchange server in the server configuration....probably
> > something
> > > > like mail.yourdomain.com. Enter in your username/password/domain.
> > Check
> > > > SSL so your password is not sent in clear text.
> > > >
> > > > If you are still having troubles, there are two other things to
check.
> > > The
> > > > first is that there is a hotfix from Microsoft that adds a "from"
> value
> > to
> > > > the SMS message to the device. The hotfix is available for Exchange
> > 2003
> > > > preSP1 and postSP1. It was not included in SP1. The knowledge base
> > > article
> > > > is 841995 (see
> > > > http://support.microsoft.com/default...b;en-us;841995).
Some
> > > > mobile providers block messages without From values because they may
> be
> > > > spam.
> > > >
> > > > The second thing to check is to turn on logging on the Exchange
server
> > to
> > > > make sure the SMS message is sent to the device. You can do this
> under
> > > > system manager and enable logging for the server activesync. When a
> new
> > > > message comes into your inbox (if you've select to receive items as
> they
> > > > arrive), you will see two items in the event log that will tell you
> the
> > > > message was processed, and that a message was dropped in the dropdir
> to
> > > > - should be your SMS message.
> > > >
> > > > Good luck!
> > > >
> > > > Rob
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "int_spy" <> wrote in message
> > > > news:%...
> > > > > Is it possible to set up the always up-to-date feature to work
with
> > > > cellular
> > > > > network or does it works only with LAN or WAN with VPN? I presume
> > that
> > > is
> > > > > it sends a notification when u receive a new mail?
> > > > >
> > > > > As for VPN thru cellular, I tried doing it thru GPRS. Couldn't
get
> it
> > > to
> > > > > connect for some reason...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Rob" <> wrote in message
> > > > > news:...
> > > > > > I've just recently purchased the Audiovox PPC4100. We had to do
a
> > > > little
> > > > > > work on the backend to get up-to-date notifications to work with
> our
> > > > > > Exchange server...but not that hard. I also have a SD wifi card
> > from
> > > > > > SanDisk that I use when I can to get faster synchronization.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I can switch between the modes by changing from GPRS to the
WiFi
> > card
> > > > > > (about 3 clicks). I tried setting up the VPN to sync with my
> laptop
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > office, but had problems getting TCPIP to work with the cellular
> > > gateway
> > > > > > (couldn't ping any internal servers/machines).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Overall, I don't think the server sync is that difficult and
> believe
> > > > > people
> > > > > > will quickly learn how to switch betwen wifi and cellular should
> > they
> > > so
> > > > > > choose. Up-to-date notifications are a "special" SMS packet
that
> > > wakes
> > > > up
> > > > > > the device and starts an activesync. It is pretty cool...I use
it
> > all
> > > > the
> > > > > > time.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Probably not appropriate, but we offer these services to
customers
> > on
> > > a
> > > > > > month-to-month rental basis with a server on their premise
> > > > > > (www.ipremise.net) in case you are looking at a low cost way to
> get
> > > SQL
> > > > > > Server/Exchange/etc. in your offices without a long-term
> > committment.
> > > > > We've
> > > > > > standardized up-to-date notifications and OMA on all our
machines
> to
> > > TRY
> > > > > to
> > > > > > make this easy!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good luck!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rob
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "MagGyver" <> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:%...
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > > We're designing a centralized database for our growing company
> and
> > > are
> > > > > > > exploring how to use PPCs in the mix. I know next to nothing
> about
> > > > their
> > > > > > > extended sync capabilities. Here's what we'd like to do -
> perhaps
> > > > > someone
> > > > > > > can help shed some light on this:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Small P2P network behind a NAT router with DSL. No Exhange
> Server
> > > but
> > > > > > > everyone uses Outlook (2000 or 2002). We're exploring
Web-based
> > > > contact
> > > > > &
> > > > > > > calendar management options which will be able to sync on an
> > > automated
> > > > > > basis
> > > > > > > with each user's Outlook and would like to have the option to
> sync
> > > > PPCs
> > > > > > > remotely to the Outlook workstations via WiFi (or using some
> sort
> > of
> > > > > > > cellular network when WiFi not available).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The questions which come to mind in this scenario are:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Is it difficult to configure PPCs to sync via the different
> > > networks
> > > > > > (WiFi
> > > > > > > vs. cellular)?
> > > > > > > - Is it possible to alter the port(s) used for sync so we can
> use
> > > port
> > > > > > > forwarding for multiple users on the router?
> > > > > > > - I've read a bit about Always-Up-To-Date configuration. How
> does
> > > > this
> > > > > > > differ in method to using WiFi/cellular to sync? Is it a
> > > complementary
> > > > > > > method or an alternative one?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Many thanks for any feedback anyone has to offer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > MagGyver, scratching her head on this one
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Have anyone tried the Smartner email solution (www.smartner.com)
Supposedly, it should provide a push email without periodic polling o
SMSes, being very efficient over the GPRS.

Matt

int_spy wrote:
> [B]Rob,
>
> Here is the complication. How is the notification sent and how d
> the
> server know where to sent it? How do you configure this?
>
> In my case, I am actually using a PPC connected either via WiFi o
> Bluetooth
> to my mobile phone and uses GPRS. Does it work in thes
> configurations?
>
> If not, I am think of an alternative. Receive a notification on m
> mobile
> phone and I can do the sync manually.
>
> Do you mind explaining the basic working of this function. I a
> really
> interested. I don't really like the idea of polling the server fo
> new
> mails. A real waste of GPRS traffic.
>
> BTW, I had try looking for docs on this at MS's website. Why is i
> so
> difficult to find information on this?!
>
> Thanks for the information so far


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