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Moshe Goldfarb.
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      07-26-2008
On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:15:24 -0400, DFS wrote:

> "If you have a company with computer using employees, who
> already have Office 2000 or Office XP, you have to obtain and install
> Office Software, usually by doing a "Reimage" of the hard drive.
> Alternatively, you have to purchase brand new computers for those
> employees you want to upgrade. You then have to back-up all of the
> data from the user's hard rive, and transfer that data to the new
> machine. Because you can't capture all the settings and preferences
> the way you can with Unix or Linux, you also have to figure that users
> will spend about a week trying to get their preferences right, trying
> to recover lost passwords and cookies, trying to install third party
> software essential to their jobs, and all of the other preferences and
> content issues.
>
> The average actual cost in lost productivity is about $10,000 per
> employee, and has almost nothing to do with the price of Windows or
> Office."
>
>
> Typical Rex bullcrap, yet no cola regs have the courage of their convictions
> to challenge it.


Roy Schestowitz looks up to Rex Ballard as some kind of a hero or icon....

That should show you what a complete loon Roy Schestowitz, student at
University of Manchester GB is.

http://groups.google.com/group/comp....955c95e422489f

>> Great job again Roy (Rex Ballard says this)


>Thanks. Coming from you, this means a lot. (Roy Schestowitz says this)


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      07-29-2008
On Jul 27, 2:07 am, "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_st...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:15:24 -0400, DFS wrote:


> > The average actual cost in lost productivity is about $10,000 per
> > employee, and has almost nothing to do with the price of Windows or
> > Office."


> > Typical Rex bullcrap, yet no cola regs have the courage of their convictions
> > to challenge it.


Of course, I was working in the financial district when Windows 95
rolled out, and I was an IT Architect for the Corporate IT division of
The Prudential when NT 4.0 was rolled out, and I was working for a
large bank when Windows XP was rolled out, and I did review the
budgets for those departments. The number I posted to this newsgroup
was actually one of the lowest quoted publicly (Merril Lynch).

> Roy Schestowitz looks up to Rex Ballard as some kind of a hero or icon....

Roy and I are both "pro-Linux", while you are very obviously "Pro
Microsoft".

I understand why you don't post to comp.os.windows.advocacy, there
isn't much going on over there (about 300 postings a month, compared
to 25 postings per hour on COLA), and most of the discussions over
there are just "more bad news about Vista". It almost seems like NONE
of the popular 3rd party Windows XP applications run well on Vista.

So rather than respond to the blast furnace of negative feedback on
that group, you participate in these groups. Most of which don't even
exist in google groups.

> That should show you what a complete loon Roy Schestowitz, student at
> University of Manchester GB is.


IIRC, he is a Phd student in Computer Science, which makes him very
articulate.
Many of his "news-clip" postings are essentially the output of perl
scripts and curl, but he adds a few lines of his own to pique
interest.

> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....sg/11955c95e42...
>
> >> Great job again Roy (Rex Ballard says this)

> >Thanks. Coming from you, this means a lot. (Roy Schestowitz says this)


As for my own credentials, I've been working with computers since 1976
when I read about a build-it-yourself CRT in a ham radio magazine. I
very quickly learned to program in BASIC and then moved on to CP/M and
started with Unix in 1982, when I started as an Associate Engineer
working with MIT graduates and PhDs who were pioneering technologies
we know today as clusters, grids, and distributed processing. By the
time I left, 5 years later, I was a Senior engineer and moved on to
Federal Express where, in addition to my duties on the Malcolm
Baldridge Award Winning Cosmos II-B project, I also took on leading an
effort at Enterprise Integration, coordinating presentations from
various vendors and staging demonstrations. This was when Jim
Barksdale was COO. Eventually, my proposed architecture was adopted
and I moved on to Great West Life, where I was directly responsible
for enterprise integration strategy as an IT architect. In January
1993, I went to Dow Jones where I put them on on the Internet. This
included helping 25 companies convert the proprietary X.25
asynchronous feed into TCP/IP feeds with message queues, archival and
real-time display components. One of those companies was WAIS Inc,
which produced one of the first commercially successful federated
search engines (like those used on Google). By 1997, I had moved to
McGraw-Hill Standard & Poor's unit where I advised the 127
publications on putting their content on the internet, along with 7000
other publishers, many of which became spin-offs with wierd names like
Yahoo, InfoSeek, ZD-Net, and CMP. I showed them how to get started on
a shoe-string budget, build a business case for advertizing revenue,
and scale up to very-high-capacity systems based on Sun, IBM, or HP
Unix systems.

In 1997, I took on Enterprise Integration and "Technology Evangelism"
for Prudential, helping them to focus on standards rather than Vendors
that allowed them to implement portable cross-platform Java, MQ, and
CORBA based solutions on Windows, Linux, and Unix systems (as well as
some migrations from Windows to Mainframes).

In 1999, I joined IBM where I have worked as an IT Architect (Now a
Senior IT Architect) on projects ranging from Pressler Act interchange
between Alaska Cable and Alaska Telephone, to reference documents on
Websphere Business Integrator, including pilot implementations through
production deployment. I usually completed my role in each project
once the client was sure that it was a "done deal". I also made
liberal use of Open Source and Linux, especially for several projects
involving "Offshore team" in India and elsewhere. The intellectual
capital was collected and became a pattern for future Offshoring
engagements.

As for
> Moshe Goldfarb


His great accomplishment in life:
> Collector of soaps from around the globe.


Which makes me proud to be in
> Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

Which is totally inacurate, right down to the spelling of my name.
The other "heros of Linux" are similarly inacurately represented and
maligned.
But just being a target of a "Collector of soaps from around the
globe" and WinTroll
like Moshe is something that says "these are people who make a
difference".

 
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      07-29-2008
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 22:58:58 -0700 (PDT), Rex Ballard wrote:

> On Jul 27, 2:07 am, "Moshe Goldfarb." <brick_n_st...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:15:24 -0400, DFS wrote:

>
>>> The average actual cost in lost productivity is about $10,000 per
>>> employee, and has almost nothing to do with the price of Windows or
>>> Office."

>
>>> Typical Rex bullcrap, yet no cola regs have the courage of their convictions
>>> to challenge it.

>
> Of course, I was working in the financial district when Windows 95
> rolled out, and I was an IT Architect for the Corporate IT division of
> The Prudential when NT 4.0 was rolled out, and I was working for a
> large bank when Windows XP was rolled out, and I did review the
> budgets for those departments. The number I posted to this newsgroup
> was actually one of the lowest quoted publicly (Merril Lynch).


1. You misquoting all over the place.
I didn't say the above, although i agree with it.

Prudential---> 100 gold Street and I was working in the financial district
as well....

Does the name Bill Andersen mean anything to you?



>> Roy Schestowitz looks up to Rex Ballard as some kind of a hero or icon....

> Roy and I are both "pro-Linux", while you are very obviously "Pro
> Microsoft".


How so?

Show me the "Use Microsoft messages" I post...

You can't.
Because I don't post that kind of stuff.

What I do is point out the obvious Linux advocate lunacy here in COLA.

You are somewhat of a Linux advocate Rex.

Schestowitz is a paid SPAMMER who is out for his own self worth and nothing
else.
He is using you and COLA in general in the most selfish of manners.



> I understand why you don't post to comp.os.windows.advocacy, there
> isn't much going on over there (about 300 postings a month, compared
> to 25 postings per hour on COLA), and most of the discussions over
> there are just "more bad news about Vista". It almost seems like NONE
> of the popular 3rd party Windows XP applications run well on Vista.


So?

I'm on record as not liking or recommending Vista....
Big deal.


> So rather than respond to the blast furnace of negative feedback on
> that group, you participate in these groups. Most of which don't even
> exist in google groups.


Why bother?
I agree with them.

>> That should show you what a complete loon Roy Schestowitz, student at
>> University of Manchester GB is.

>
> IIRC, he is a Phd student in Computer Science, which makes him very
> articulate.


Articulate?
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!
Schestowitz is an idiot.

Here is how *articulate* Schestowitz is:

http://www.linux.com/feature/122470

He sounds like a retard.............


> Many of his "news-clip" postings are essentially the output of perl
> scripts and curl, but he adds a few lines of his own to pique
> interest.


No.
He adds canned comments from a database that key on certain phrases.
Much like an Elizabot.
He also re-posts the same incorrect material over and over again, 100's if
not 1000's of times even after being informed of his errors.

Roy Schestowitz is a self serving fraud...


>> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....sg/11955c95e42...
>>
>>>> Great job again Roy (Rex Ballard says this)
>>>Thanks. Coming from you, this means a lot. (Roy Schestowitz says this)

>
> As for my own credentials, I've been working with computers since 1976
> when I read about a build-it-yourself CRT in a ham radio magazine.


snip...."I was born of humble means in a log cabin etc................"

Barf.......



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Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
 
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      07-29-2008
2:07 am, "moshe goldfarb." <brick_n_st...@gmail.com> wrote: on jul 27,
2:07 am, "moshe goldfarb." <brick_n_st...@gmail.com> wrote: on jul 27,
2:007.
> On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:15:24 -0400, DFS wrote:


> > The average actual cost in lost productivity is about $10,000 per
> > employee, and has almost nothing to do with the price of Windows or
> > Office."


> > Typical Rex bullcrap, yet no cola regs have the courage of their convictions
> > to challenge it.


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lynch). Of course, I was rolled publicly one of the number I posted out,
and I posted out, and I posted out, and I posted out, and I posted out,
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it did review the corporate it aarchitect.

> Roy Schestowitz looks up to Rex Ballard as some kind of a hero or icon....

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> That should show you what a complete loon Roy Schestowitz, student at
> University of Manchester GB is.


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> http://groups.google.com/group/comp....sg/11955c95e42...
>
> >> Great job again Roy (Rex Ballard says this)

> >Thanks. Coming from you, this means a lot. (Roy Schestowitz says this)


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> Moshe Goldfarb


Accomplishment in life: his great accomplishment in life: his great
acccomplishment.
> Collector of soaps from around the globe.


Proud to be in which makes me proud to be in which makes me prooud.
> Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

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      07-29-2008
* Rex Ballard peremptorily fired off this memo:

> I understand why you don't post to comp.os.windows.advocacy, there
> isn't much going on over there (about 300 postings a month, compared
> to 25 postings per hour on COLA), and most of the discussions over
> there are just "more bad news about Vista". It almost seems like NONE
> of the popular 3rd party Windows XP applications run well on Vista.


Say! Maybe that was part of Microsoft's plan:

Kill off all the third-party apps except for drivers, so that the
apps can be replaced by Microsoft software.

<evil Gatesian laughter>

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      07-29-2008
Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
> Does the name Bill Andersen mean anything to you?


Ouch!!!


 
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      07-29-2008
____/ Rex Ballard on Tuesday 29 July 2008 05:58 : \____

> Many of his "news-clip" postings are essentially the output of perl
> scripts and curl, but he adds a few lines of his own to pique
> interest.


There are /NO/ scripts. I use a Web browser and read RSS feeds. It's all
manual.

Don't mix the Gremlins' libel with reality.

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      07-29-2008
On Jul 29, 3:56 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com>
wrote:
> ____/ Rex Ballard on Tuesday 29 July 2008 05:58 : \____
>
> > Many of his "news-clip" postings are essentially the output of perl
> > scripts and curl, but he adds a few lines of his own to pique
> > interest.

>
> There are /NO/ scripts. I use a Web browser and read RSS feeds. It's all
> manual.


Sorry about that roy. I really did think that some of the bulk was
done with scripts, and you just clipped the good parts. Still, you do
an amazing job of getting lots of new news articles for this group to
discuss. Though there are so many that many do not get the follow-up
they so richly deserve.

Perhaps the real problem is that there is just so much good news about
Linux, and so much bad news about Microsoft, that it's just hard to
keep up.

> Don't mix the Gremlins' libel with reality.


Thanks for the correction.

 
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      07-29-2008
On Jul 29, 2:38 pm, "relic" <rel...@cjb.net> wrote:
> Moshe Goldfarb. wrote:
>
> > Does the name Bill Andersen mean anything to you?


Bill Andersonv Yes, absolutely. He worked at CCI when I was there,
and was a huge contributor to several key technologies, including one
of the first Audio Response Subsystems.

Do you have any current contact information on him? It would be great
to see what he's been up to for the last 20 years.


> Ouch!!!



Ouch,

No, I have fond memories of Bill Anderson. If it's the Bill Anderson
I'm thinking of.
 
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      07-30-2008
On Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:36:32 -0700 (PDT), Rex Ballard wrote:

> On Jul 29, 3:56 pm, Roy Schestowitz <newsgro...@schestowitz.com>
> wrote:
>> ____/ Rex Ballard on Tuesday 29 July 2008 05:58 : \____
>>
>>> Many of his "news-clip" postings are essentially the output of perl
>>> scripts and curl, but he adds a few lines of his own to pique
>>> interest.

>>
>> There are /NO/ scripts. I use a Web browser and read RSS feeds. It's all
>> manual.

>
> Sorry about that roy. I really did think that some of the bulk was
> done with scripts, and you just clipped the good parts. Still, you do
> an amazing job of getting lots of new news articles for this group to
> discuss. Though there are so many that many do not get the follow-up
> they so richly deserve.


Roy is LIEing for LIEnix again....

He's full of **** if he says he is not using scripts...

How does he explain the fact that when he reposts the same {related}
sections of his SPAM, the formatting is exactly the same, right down to the
misspellings......

And that's just one example of what gives him away.
There are others, but I'm saving those for better days....

You can't be that ignorant Rex....

> Perhaps the real problem is that there is just so much good news about
> Linux, and so much bad news about Microsoft, that it's just hard to
> keep up.


Oh, I dunno...
Schestowitz seems to have the Microsoft *bad news* angle down to a
science..

>> Don't mix the Gremlins' libel with reality.

>
> Thanks for the correction.


Don't be a fool Rex, Roy is conning you again.

You like to type, why not try the experiment that was posted here about 6
months ago...
See how much time you have left for your, ahem, *extra curricular
activities*....

What Schestowitz is doing is not physically possible to do manually.
It's a great con job though....
Note *con* not *cron*, although that seems to be true as well...

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