Yeah, SBS 2003 R2. Been so long since R1 <g>
Now I find this:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv.../prodinfo.mspx
which says:
Q. What are the expanded CAL rights in SBS 2003 R2?
A. Customers running SBS 2003 R2 can use their CALs to access additional
servers running Windows Server 2003, Exchange Server 2003 and SQL Server
2005 Workgroup Edition on the SBS 2003 R2 network. See the licensing questions
section for additional information on SBS 2003 R2 CALs.
so unless there is info that the expanded CAL rights were expanded to Server
2008, it would seem Server CALs are in order as well.
-Larry
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> Keep in mind that the covering of Server CALs is ONLY for R2. So far
> as I'm aware, it was never extended to SBS 2003. Therefore, since the
> TS is in the domain, it needs a server CAL for every user in the
> domain. It will not require a TS CAL for them - only for those users
> who access the actual TS functionality of the box. And SBS will need
> CALs for everyone, regardless, of course.
>
> "Larry Struckmeyer[SBS-MVP]" <> wrote in
> message news: m...
>
>> Charlie and Steve:
>>
>> I am with you on the size and resources of the new box, but not sure
>> I understand the logic of the licenses.
>>
>> Does the SBS benefit of covering Server CALS for additional servers
>> not apply to Server 2008x in an SBS 2003 network?
>>
>> Since there are 10 (or however many) new users connecting to the SBS
>> domain, will it not require 10 (or however many) new SBS licenses
>> (again assuming user CALs)
>>
>> And, yes on the 35 TS CALs if all 25 original users and 10 new users
>> are going to use this app on the TS.
>>
>> -
>> Larry
>> Please post the resolution to your
>> issue so others may benefit
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>>> First question: Are you running Server 2k8 as a 32-bit or 64-bit
>>> version? If 64-bit, I'd recommend going to 2k8 R2 directly, since
>>> there are some enhancements in Terminal Services / Remote Desktop
>>> Services in R2. But R2 is 64-bit only - no 32-bit version.
>>>
>>> It's difficult to spec a server without knowing the size and
>>> resource requirements of the application itself. And it will also
>>> depend on whether you're running the application as a RemoteApp, or
>>> running a full desktop session.
>>>
>>> That being said, 10 concurrent TS RemoteApp users running 2-3 MS
>>> Office applications on Server 2k8 R2 should do fine on a quad-core,
>>> single CPU, server with 4-6GB of RAM. IOW, a pretty low end server
>>> these days. I would expect even running full desktop sessions that
>>> you'd be fine with that.
>>>
>>> Connectivity: If you're running full desktop sessions, I'd use
>>> Remote Web Workplace (RWW) rather than VPN. If you're running
>>> RemoteApp sessions, your options are a bit more limited in SBS 2003,
>>> but I'd probably set the new server up to also do TS Gateway (RD
>>> Gateway in R2). This would require forwarding 443 to the new server,
>>> or having it sit at a separate public IP address. Or use a VPN, but
>>> that adds its own overhead.
>>>
>>> Licenses: yes, you'll need 35 Server CALs for the new server. Plus
>>> 25 TS CALs (assuming Per User).
>>>
>>> "Steve Schwab" <> wrote in
>>> message news:358412B0-AF58-4227-BA03-...
>>>
>>>> I have a SBS2003 network with 25 users. We have acquired a new
>>>> company and
>>>> want to allow about 10 remote users access to our mrp software. The
>>>> software
>>>> supports terminal services but all users (local and remote) must
>>>> use
>>>> terminal
>>>> services if we switch to that.
>>>> I understand that I can join a Server 2008 member server to SBS2003
>>>> and
>>>> use
>>>> it as a terminal server. Since I haven't used terminal server
>>>> before
>>>> I
>>>> have a
>>>> couple questions:
>>>> What kind of hardware is required for the terminal server? There
>>>> will
>>>> be about 25 users sharing the application but only about 10 max
>>>> concurrently. Will that require a lot of horsepower?
>>>> I have a Watchguard UTM with VPN capability. Should that be used to
>>>> connect
>>>> the remote user?
>>>> If we use Comcast as ISP with 6 megs down and 2 megs up on both
>>>> ends,
>>>> will the remote user experience be OK with this bandwidth?
>>>> I assume that I will need 10 more Cals for SBS2003 so the new
>>>> remote
>>>> users
>>>> can log into the network. I also assume that I will need to buy 25
>>>> TS
>>>> Cals
>>>> for all users on the terminal server. Will I need Cals for the
>>>> basic
>>>> server
>>>> 2008?
>>>> Thanks in advance for the help.
>>>> Steve
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