Re: Select Working TV Signal - FAIL! (WIN7)

You need to be using channel 3 out of the STB as you have found.
In order to control the channel selection on the STB from the MC computer
you need a MC compatible remote connected and it needs to have a IR blaster
mounted in front of the STBs ir receiver to emulate the STBs own remote.

"jazzthing" <> wrote in message
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>
> Hey peeps, I've been looking for an answer to this problem for a couple
> weeks, done lots of google searches and searched around these forums to
> see if my question had already been answered.. as far as I can see it
> has not been. If it has, please point me to a link. thanks.
>
> PROBLEM
> Can not get Media Center TV Setup (win7) to see STB signal.
>
> The STB itself is a Scientific America with 1xCoaxial in, and 1xCoaxial
> out. *NO* RCA/COMPOSITE/HDMI. It is connected to the computer from the
> Coaxial out to the antenna in on my Hauppauge PVR-150
>
> It asks me if I have a set-top box. I opt YES.
>
> I am continued to "select a working TV Signal" step. The options I am
> presented with are these
> * S-video 1
> * S-video 2
> * Composite Video 1
> * Composite Video 2
> * None of the above have a TV signal.
>
> Since I am connected to the STB with a Coax cable I am not expecting to
> get a signal from any of the 4 input options listed... and as expected -
> I don't.
>
> Should there be an Analog/RF/Coaxial option there and for some reason
> it is not showing?
>
> If.... instead of selecting CABLE in an earlier step, and instead opt
> for Antenna I can tune to channel 3 and watch my cable channels using
> the STB and changing the channels with the STB remote... it works, but
> its not what I want for various reasons (mainly because MC doesnt
> recognize the channel changes thus when I change the channel on the STB
> i have to wait 5 seconds that the buffer has stored) that are pointless
> beside the fact that I just like stuff to work :P
>
> In trying the antenna route I was able to atleast prove that the TV
> card works and does see the signal - and that there is something missing
> when I try to set it up as a cable connection with a STB..
>
> Another point worth mentioning - I have been able to configure the STB
> without a problem as far as using the IR to change the channels... Cause
> i see the STB channels changing on the STB LED display, just no image
> being projected on the tv screen.
>
> too much information? too little information? please help me! I don't
> want to buy a VCR just so I can use the demodulator and get RCA outs to
> plug into the RCA in on my PVR-150.
>
> PLEASE HELP!
>
>
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What antenna settings are you using? You should be using cable settings for
your local cable company.

"jazzthing" <> wrote in message
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> I have the MCE Kit.. IR Blaster, Remote - and everything works.
>
> I can even get MC to play TV channels from the STB if I set up the
> connection using the Antenna settings and have the channel set on CH3
> while using the STB to change the actual channels... But if I use the
> Antenna settings I can't take advantage of the IR Blaster's STB control
> option because MC won't let me use the IR Blaster on the STB if I am
> using the Antenna. Why would it? what Antenna uses an STB?
>
> So i go back and do the Cable with STB setup, but in this process it
> doesn't allow me to pick the broadcasting channel... It only gives me 4
> connection options, and not the Analog connection I am actually using.
> * S-video 1
> * S-video 2
> * Composite Video 1
> * Composite Video 2
>
>
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Have you tried a postal code that is in a nearby larger city that uses the
same cable company?
Have you contacted MS Venezuela?
Have you tried S-video? you will get a better quality picture then you will
get over coax if it works.

"jazzthing" <> wrote in message
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>
> When I use the antenna settings there is only really one option.
>
> Let me try and explain this using the steps I take.
>
> In setup i goto *setup tv signal*.
>
> I pick the country (Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela) and click next.
>
> I pick the postal code (1010) and click next.
>
> I agree to *Program Guide Terms of Service* and click next.
>
> It attempts to download TV setup data... of course nothing is
> downloaded cause I live in noman's land. I hit next.
>
> Now I am on the step that asks *"What type of TV Signal do you
> Receive?"* The options are Cable, Satellite, and Antenna.
>
> If I pick Antenna it takes me to *"TV Signal Configuration / The
> following TV signals will be configured for Windows Media Center:
> Analog Antenna (1 Tuner). Select next to confirm."* I select next.
>
> TV Signal Setup Finished. I select Finished (no other option.)
>
> From there I can go to LIVE TV and set the tuner to Channel 3 where it
> will display whatever channel I tune my STB to.*
>
> BUT.... I don't want to use Antenna. I want to use cable through my
> STB with the IR Blaster option.*
>
> These are the steps I go through which always ends in a total failure.
>
>
> In setup i goto *setup tv signal*.
>
> I pick the country (Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela) and click next.
>
> I pick the postal code (1010) and click next.
>
> I agree to *Program Guide Terms of Service* and click next.
>
> It attempts to download TV setup data... of course nothing is
> downloaded cause I live in noman's land. I hit next.
>
> Now I am on the step that asks *"What type of TV Signal do you
> Receive?"* The options are Cable, Satellite, and Antenna.
>
>
> I select CABLE and click on NEXT.
>
> It brings me to an option Labeled *"Set-Top Box"* and says "some tv
> signals require a set-top box, which is supplied by your TV service
> provider. Do you have a set-top box?"
>
> I do have a set-top box, so I select Yes and click next.
>
> The setup wizard then tells me to Prepare for Set-Top Box Setup. I can
> verify that all requirements are met and once again --click-- next.
>
> I am not at the step titled *select a working tv signal*. it says
> "select a TV signal, if you do not see video, check your hardware setup"
> and then offers me the following 5 options.
> 1) S-Video 1
> 2) S-Video 2
> 3) Composite Video 1
> 4) Composite Video 2
> 5) None of the above have a TV Signal.
>
> Non of the 4 inputs show video.. this is no surprise as I am connected
> to the STB with a coaxial cable. So, I select option number 5 "none of
> the above have a TV signal"
>
> wizard pretty much ends by telling me to check my hardware.... But I
> know my hardware works, because when I go through the Antenna settings I
> get picture just fine, but no use of the STB though MC IR Blaster...
> There is a 6th option missing from my list and thats Analog/RF/Coax
> Connection.
>
> I would like to believe that this is a problem that can be solved, but
> I am starting to lean towards doubtful.
>
>
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The problem is that jazzthing's STB doesn't have anything other than coax
out - no s-video, no RCA, no component, etc.

Have you tried telling it you have s-video anyway, just to get through the
setup, possibly even plug something into the s-video (a video
camera/vcr/etc.) just so MCE senses and input during setup.

I've never purposely told it the wrong input, so I don't know if it then
ignores the input on the other connections once you run through the setup or
if you can set it up for s-video and then receive a signal through the coax
anyway.
--
James
Orlando (Goofy says "Hey"), Florida

"Curious" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Have you tried a postal code that is in a nearby larger city that uses the
> same cable company?
> Have you contacted MS Venezuela?
> Have you tried S-video? you will get a better quality picture then you
> will get over coax if it works.
>
> "jazzthing" <> wrote in message
> news:...
>>
>> When I use the antenna settings there is only really one option.
>>
>> Let me try and explain this using the steps I take.
>>
>> In setup i goto *setup tv signal*.
>>
>> I pick the country (Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela) and click next.
>>
>> I pick the postal code (1010) and click next.
>>
>> I agree to *Program Guide Terms of Service* and click next.
>>
>> It attempts to download TV setup data... of course nothing is
>> downloaded cause I live in noman's land. I hit next.
>>
>> Now I am on the step that asks *"What type of TV Signal do you
>> Receive?"* The options are Cable, Satellite, and Antenna.
>>
>> If I pick Antenna it takes me to *"TV Signal Configuration / The
>> following TV signals will be configured for Windows Media Center:
>> Analog Antenna (1 Tuner). Select next to confirm."* I select next.
>>
>> TV Signal Setup Finished. I select Finished (no other option.)
>>
>> From there I can go to LIVE TV and set the tuner to Channel 3 where it
>> will display whatever channel I tune my STB to.*
>>
>> BUT.... I don't want to use Antenna. I want to use cable through my
>> STB with the IR Blaster option.*
>>
>> These are the steps I go through which always ends in a total failure.
>>
>>
>> In setup i goto *setup tv signal*.
>>
>> I pick the country (Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela) and click next.
>>
>> I pick the postal code (1010) and click next.
>>
>> I agree to *Program Guide Terms of Service* and click next.
>>
>> It attempts to download TV setup data... of course nothing is
>> downloaded cause I live in noman's land. I hit next.
>>
>> Now I am on the step that asks *"What type of TV Signal do you
>> Receive?"* The options are Cable, Satellite, and Antenna.
>>
>>
>> I select CABLE and click on NEXT.
>>
>> It brings me to an option Labeled *"Set-Top Box"* and says "some tv
>> signals require a set-top box, which is supplied by your TV service
>> provider. Do you have a set-top box?"
>>
>> I do have a set-top box, so I select Yes and click next.
>>
>> The setup wizard then tells me to Prepare for Set-Top Box Setup. I can
>> verify that all requirements are met and once again --click-- next.
>>
>> I am not at the step titled *select a working tv signal*. it says
>> "select a TV signal, if you do not see video, check your hardware setup"
>> and then offers me the following 5 options.
>> 1) S-Video 1
>> 2) S-Video 2
>> 3) Composite Video 1
>> 4) Composite Video 2
>> 5) None of the above have a TV Signal.
>>
>> Non of the 4 inputs show video.. this is no surprise as I am connected
>> to the STB with a coaxial cable. So, I select option number 5 "none of
>> the above have a TV signal"
>>
>> wizard pretty much ends by telling me to check my hardware.... But I
>> know my hardware works, because when I go through the Antenna settings I
>> get picture just fine, but no use of the STB though MC IR Blaster...
>> There is a 6th option missing from my list and thats Analog/RF/Coax
>> Connection.
>>
>> I would like to believe that this is a problem that can be solved, but
>> I am starting to lean towards doubtful.
>>
>>
>> --
>> jazzthing
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>>
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>>

MS uses Zaptoit.com to provide their guide data. You might check their
website and see if they acknowledge the presence of your cable provider.
Otherwise I am stumped/

"jazzthing" <> wrote in message
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>
> Jaime, you see exactly where I am coming from.
>
> And yeah, its one of the first things I tried - because I was curious
> to see if the IR Blaster would work with my STB, so even though I never
> got a picture I told the program I did and it brought me through the
> next steps - everything worked fine (IR Blaster controlled STB no
> problem) aside from the fact that I never got an image on the TV. I
> wasnt able to fix that important fact, though.
>
> Its funny, cause I have done a lot of searching and it seems like not a
> single person other than myself has had this particular problem :P
>
> And Curious, yeah - I totally tried nearby settings, I even tried my
> Canadian address to see if it would change anything. It changed
> nothing.
>
> One solution is to get a Demodulator that converts my Coax into RCA...
> Or find out if the local cable company will allow me to buy my own STB
> that has an RCA out, as they do not offer one.
>
> If anyone has any hack that might help me out, PLEASE! I dont want to
> start investing money in something that should work out of the box.
>
>
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Have you tried running the WinTV application from Hauppauge and the guide
they make available. I have no idea if their guide supports your location.
I have no problem with my 150 card and either Win7 MC or with the Hauppauge
WinTV app.
"jazzthing" <> wrote in message
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> Curious, I appreciate your taking the time to lend a hand, but the
> problem has nothing to do with the area in which i live. The problem
> stems a little deeper than that, quite possibly a driver issue with
> windows 7?
>
> However, if I can find my area on zaptoit i would KILL to have a
> downloadable guide for my area which is probably way too much to ask
> for.
>
>
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I think you haven't seen the problem much, because a STB with only coax out
is a rare item these days. I think your best bet is to contact the cable
provider about changing the box. With many household switching to HD flat
screens and most providers offering hundreds of digital/HD content, it's
hard to believe that they only have coax boxes.
--
James
Orlando, FL

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"jazzthing" <> wrote in message
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>
> Jaime, you see exactly where I am coming from.
>
> And yeah, its one of the first things I tried - because I was curious
> to see if the IR Blaster would work with my STB, so even though I never
> got a picture I told the program I did and it brought me through the
> next steps - everything worked fine (IR Blaster controlled STB no
> problem) aside from the fact that I never got an image on the TV. I
> wasnt able to fix that important fact, though.
>
> Its funny, cause I have done a lot of searching and it seems like not a
> single person other than myself has had this particular problem :P
>
> And Curious, yeah - I totally tried nearby settings, I even tried my
> Canadian address to see if it would change anything. It changed
> nothing.
>
> One solution is to get a Demodulator that converts my Coax into RCA...
> Or find out if the local cable company will allow me to buy my own STB
> that has an RCA out, as they do not offer one.
>
> If anyone has any hack that might help me out, PLEASE! I dont want to
> start investing money in something that should work out of the box.
>
>
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If you are unable to select and get the guide for your local cable company
then the tuner will not work either with the blaster.

"jazzthing" <> wrote in message
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> why are you stuck on the subject of guides? My problem isn't the guide,
> my problem is the input method.
>
> I honestly don't know if the guide is relevant or not, so if it is -
> can you tell me why? Otherwise, as much as I would love to have a
> guide, my primary concern is just to get a picture.
>
> I know I can get a picture if in WinTV and the channel is on 3, I
> haven't yet tried using WinTV with the IR Blaster.
>
>
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