Just a small disagreement. Virtually all of the items you list are loaded
into memory and to the extent that you are using a machine with minimal
memory, programs (certain ones in particular) will cause considerable paging
of data and programs which can slow the system considerably.
"Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
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> "illjilli" <> wrote in message
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>> >Not true. Having a program installed has no effect on performance.
>> >Having it *running* does an effect on performance.
>>
>> You are incorrect as usual.
>>
>> only installing programs without running them makes windows go slower.
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>> Many programs add registry entries,
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> Yes. But that doesn't affect performance.
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> > fonts,
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> Yes. But that doesn't affect performance.
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>> dlls,
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> Yes. But that doesn't affect performance.
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>> ocx, drivers,
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> Drivers, although they can affect performance, come with hardware
> installation, not program installation.
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>> bla bla bla....
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> Bla bla bla doesn't affect performance.
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>> That's why a clean install with no programs is lighting fast while after
>> you install programs it starts to slow down.
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> That's not correct, as I said earlier. If it slows down, it's invariably
> because some of what you installed autostarts and is always running in the
> background, because you have gotten infcted with malware, or because you
> have chosen poor options in Windows or made other mistakes. I have never
> had any of my computers, which have run almost every version of Windows
> since 3.0, exhibit the behavior you claim.
>
>> And no im not talking about start up programs...
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>> You should give back your MVP status, this is basic computer 101 man!
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>> Going from 4 to 6+ gb improves performance when you use premiere,
>> photoshop, and several others all at the same time since vista caches
>> with superfetch as much as you can feed it. For playing solitaire no..
>> you are save using under 4
>>
>>
>> "Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
>> news:#Roct#...
>>> "illjilli" <> wrote in message
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>>>> all windows versions get slower when you install programs even though
>>>> you remove the start up entries
>>>> and shell extensions, and you defragment your drive.
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>>> Not true. Having a program installed has no effect on performance.
>>> Having it *running* does an effect on performance.
>>>
>>>
>>>> the only solution with vista is to max the ram as much as possible so
>>>> superfetch will put stuff in the ram..
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>>> Having more RAM may or may not improve performance. It depends on what
>>> apps you run.
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>>>> im going to 64 bit soon, I have 6 gig installed but I can use only 3.3
>>>> gigs due to 32 bit limitation
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>>>
>>> 3.3GB is a typical amount of RAM available to people running 32-bit
>>> Vista with 4GB or more installed. And for most people, that's enough,
>>> and more available RAM doesn't help them.
>>>
>>> If you change to 64-bit Vista, please report back, telling us what
>>> effect it had on performance, and how you measured the change.
>>>
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>>>
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>>>> "Ken Blake" <> wrote in message
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>>>>>> with 2 gigs ram, and 2.8 ghz dual Pentium D, on Vista HP, it's
>>>>>> starting to run
>>>>>> like a slug. I need to trim the fat, disable or turn to manual those
>>>>>> services
>>>>>> that are now just taking up overhead, and the system could run better
>>>>>> without
>>>>>> them.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Is there a list of absolutely necessary services, and what their
>>>>>> settings
>>>>>> should be ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You mean that performance used to be good, but has recently
>>>>> deteriorated?
>>>>>
>>>>> If so, it's extremely unlikely that the services running are the
>>>>> cause. Almost certainly your problem has to do with what you have
>>>>> started running--possibly auto-starting background programs, and
>>>>> possibly that you have gotten infected with malware. In my view, the
>>>>> malware is the most likely cause.
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