RE: Unable to update Shared Files in a Shared Folder - SBS 2003

Hi Carlos,

Thank you for posting in the SBS Newsgroup.

I am sorry for the delayed response due to weekend. Please understand that
the newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals to
answer your systems and applications questions. Your understanding is
greatly appreciated!

From your description, I understand that you get the message "The files is
read-only" if you modify a shared file located in a shared folder and save
it. If I have misunderstood your concern, please do not hesitate to let me
know.

Do you mean you have used the Attrib command at a command prompt to change
the attributes of the folder?

For example, to change the Read-only attribute to System for the C:\Test
folder, use the following command:

"attrib -r +s c:\test" (without the quotation marks)

Note that some programs may not operate correctly with folders that have
the System attribute set. To remove both the Read-only and System
attributes from the C:\Test folder, use the following command:

"attrib -r -s c:\test" (without the quotation marks)

It appears that you are unable to get rid of the read-only attribute of the
folder. As I know, unlike the Read-only attribute for a file, the Read-only
attribute for a folder is typically ignored by Windows, Windows components
and accessories, and other programs. For example, you can delete, rename,
and change a folder with the Read-only attribute by using Windows Explorer.
The Read-only and System attributes is only used by Windows Explorer to
determine whether the folder is a special folder, such as a system folder
that has its view customized by Windows (for example, My Documents,
Favorites, Fonts, Downloaded Program Files), or a folder that you
customized by using the "Customize" tab of the folder's "Properties" dialog
box. As a result, Windows Explorer does not allow you to view or change the
Read-only or System attributes of folders.

Note: In some previous versions of Windows, you can change the Read-only
attribute for folders by using the "Properties" dialog box for the folder,
but no versions of Windows permit you to change the System attribute by
using Windows Explorer.

To get more detailed information regarding this behavior, you may refer to
the following KB article:

326549 You Cannot View or Change the Read-Only or System Attribute of
Folders
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=326549

As I know, the following possibilities could lead this issue:

1. Did you find the "read-only" attribute on the file by right-clicking the
file and clicking Properties?
2. The NTFS permissions were not properly configured.
3. The sharing permissions were not properly configured.
4. The document is opened by several users at the same time

Here, I would suggest you try the following action plan:

1. Go to the SBS server. Open Windows Explorer and navigate to that shared
folder. Right-click it and choose 'Properties'. In 'Security' tab, check
the user and permission list. Make sure the Users group has the
modify/read&excute/list folder contents/read/write permissions on the
folder.
2. The shared folder access is also controlled by the sharing permission.
Navigate to 'Sharing' tab, click 'Permissions' button. Assign 'Full
control' permission to Users group.
3. Please also check the permission on each file. Normally, the files
should inherit the folder permissions. You may click 'Advanced' button in
'Security' tab of the file properties. Navigate to 'Effective permissions'
tab. Select a user and query the effective permission for the particular
user.
4. We cannot open an office document from multiple users for modification
at the same time. Let the users close all documents and then go to a
workstation and try the access. Does the problem still occur?

If the problem still persists, to narrow down the problem, would you please
help me collect the following information?

1. Use the xcacls to help me collect the permission of the folder, please
refer to the following KB article:

245015 How to: Print Folder and File Permissions from One Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=245015

2. Can you save files to these folders directly? For example: open a word
document and then save to the folder.
3. Does the situation occur on every user accounts include Admin?
4. If you create a new file on the folder and then open it and modify and
then save it, does the situation occur?
5. If you create a new folder on the shared drive, can the situation occur?
Does the situation occur on other partition?

I appreciate your time and I look forward to hearing from you.

Best regards,

Crina Li (MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

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| Subject: Unable to update Shared Files in a Shared Folder - SBS 2003
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| Hi,
| We have recently moved to SBS 2003 and the shared folders now have the
| Read-only attribute set. I have read KB326549 and tried to change the
| attributes of the folder without success. I read also in a previous
| posting that the fact the the folder has the R/O attribute would't
| prevent for updating a file but the fact is that if I open a file,
| modify it and try to save it I get the message "The file is read-only".
| (I can save it as a new file in the same directory though).
| Any help will be appreciated.
|
| Thanks
|
| Carlos
|
|

""Crina Li"" wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> Thank you for posting in the SBS Newsgroup.
>
> I am sorry for the delayed response due to weekend. Please understand that
> the newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals to
> answer your systems and applications questions. Your understanding is
> greatly appreciated!
>
> From your description, I understand that you get the message "The files is
> read-only" if you modify a shared file located in a shared folder and save
> it. If I have misunderstood your concern, please do not hesitate to let me
> know.
>
> Do you mean you have used the Attrib command at a command prompt to change
> the attributes of the folder?
>
> For example, to change the Read-only attribute to System for the C:\Test
> folder, use the following command:
>
> "attrib -r +s c:\test" (without the quotation marks)
>
> Note that some programs may not operate correctly with folders that have
> the System attribute set. To remove both the Read-only and System
> attributes from the C:\Test folder, use the following command:
>
> "attrib -r -s c:\test" (without the quotation marks)
>
> It appears that you are unable to get rid of the read-only attribute of the
> folder. As I know, unlike the Read-only attribute for a file, the Read-only
> attribute for a folder is typically ignored by Windows, Windows components
> and accessories, and other programs. For example, you can delete, rename,
> and change a folder with the Read-only attribute by using Windows Explorer.
> The Read-only and System attributes is only used by Windows Explorer to
> determine whether the folder is a special folder, such as a system folder
> that has its view customized by Windows (for example, My Documents,
> Favorites, Fonts, Downloaded Program Files), or a folder that you
> customized by using the "Customize" tab of the folder's "Properties" dialog
> box. As a result, Windows Explorer does not allow you to view or change the
> Read-only or System attributes of folders.
>
> Note: In some previous versions of Windows, you can change the Read-only
> attribute for folders by using the "Properties" dialog box for the folder,
> but no versions of Windows permit you to change the System attribute by
> using Windows Explorer.
>
> To get more detailed information regarding this behavior, you may refer to
> the following KB article:
>
> 326549 You Cannot View or Change the Read-Only or System Attribute of
> Folders
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=326549
>
> As I know, the following possibilities could lead this issue:
>
> 1. Did you find the "read-only" attribute on the file by right-clicking the
> file and clicking Properties?
> 2. The NTFS permissions were not properly configured.
> 3. The sharing permissions were not properly configured.
> 4. The document is opened by several users at the same time
>
> Here, I would suggest you try the following action plan:
>
> 1. Go to the SBS server. Open Windows Explorer and navigate to that shared
> folder. Right-click it and choose 'Properties'. In 'Security' tab, check
> the user and permission list. Make sure the Users group has the
> modify/read&excute/list folder contents/read/write permissions on the
> folder.
> 2. The shared folder access is also controlled by the sharing permission.
> Navigate to 'Sharing' tab, click 'Permissions' button. Assign 'Full
> control' permission to Users group.
> 3. Please also check the permission on each file. Normally, the files
> should inherit the folder permissions. You may click 'Advanced' button in
> 'Security' tab of the file properties. Navigate to 'Effective permissions'
> tab. Select a user and query the effective permission for the particular
> user.
> 4. We cannot open an office document from multiple users for modification
> at the same time. Let the users close all documents and then go to a
> workstation and try the access. Does the problem still occur?
>
> If the problem still persists, to narrow down the problem, would you please
> help me collect the following information?
>
> 1. Use the xcacls to help me collect the permission of the folder, please
> refer to the following KB article:
>
> 245015 How to: Print Folder and File Permissions from One Folder
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=245015
>
> 2. Can you save files to these folders directly? For example: open a word
> document and then save to the folder.
> 3. Does the situation occur on every user accounts include Admin?
> 4. If you create a new file on the folder and then open it and modify and
> then save it, does the situation occur?
> 5. If you create a new folder on the shared drive, can the situation occur?
> Does the situation occur on other partition?
>
> I appreciate your time and I look forward to hearing from you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Crina Li (MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> ================================================== ===
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
> You can locate the newsgroup here:
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>
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> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
>
> ================================================== ===
>
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> | From: "" <>
> | Newsgroups: microsoft.public.windows.server.sbs
> | Subject: Unable to update Shared Files in a Shared Folder - SBS 2003
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> | Hi,
> | We have recently moved to SBS 2003 and the shared folders now have the
> | Read-only attribute set. I have read KB326549 and tried to change the
> | attributes of the folder without success. I read also in a previous
> | posting that the fact the the folder has the R/O attribute would't
> | prevent for updating a file but the fact is that if I open a file,
> | modify it and try to save it I get the message "The file is read-only".
> | (I can save it as a new file in the same directory though).
> | Any help will be appreciated.
> |
> | Thanks
> |
> | Carlos
> |
> |
>
>

Hi Crina,
I am sorry for not responding fast enough. On the evening of the 11 I
modified the permissions under the security tab and that fixed the problem.
I really appreciate your detailed posting. Also it gives me the comfort of
validating what I did.
Thank you very much for your thorough response.

Carlos
""Crina Li"" wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> Thank you for posting in the SBS Newsgroup.
>
> I am sorry for the delayed response due to weekend. Please understand that
> the newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals to
> answer your systems and applications questions. Your understanding is
> greatly appreciated!
>
> From your description, I understand that you get the message "The files is
> read-only" if you modify a shared file located in a shared folder and save
> it. If I have misunderstood your concern, please do not hesitate to let me
> know.
>
> Do you mean you have used the Attrib command at a command prompt to change
> the attributes of the folder?
>
> For example, to change the Read-only attribute to System for the C:\Test
> folder, use the following command:
>
> "attrib -r +s c:\test" (without the quotation marks)
>
> Note that some programs may not operate correctly with folders that have
> the System attribute set. To remove both the Read-only and System
> attributes from the C:\Test folder, use the following command:
>
> "attrib -r -s c:\test" (without the quotation marks)
>
> It appears that you are unable to get rid of the read-only attribute of the
> folder. As I know, unlike the Read-only attribute for a file, the Read-only
> attribute for a folder is typically ignored by Windows, Windows components
> and accessories, and other programs. For example, you can delete, rename,
> and change a folder with the Read-only attribute by using Windows Explorer.
> The Read-only and System attributes is only used by Windows Explorer to
> determine whether the folder is a special folder, such as a system folder
> that has its view customized by Windows (for example, My Documents,
> Favorites, Fonts, Downloaded Program Files), or a folder that you
> customized by using the "Customize" tab of the folder's "Properties" dialog
> box. As a result, Windows Explorer does not allow you to view or change the
> Read-only or System attributes of folders.
>
> Note: In some previous versions of Windows, you can change the Read-only
> attribute for folders by using the "Properties" dialog box for the folder,
> but no versions of Windows permit you to change the System attribute by
> using Windows Explorer.
>
> To get more detailed information regarding this behavior, you may refer to
> the following KB article:
>
> 326549 You Cannot View or Change the Read-Only or System Attribute of
> Folders
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=326549
>
> As I know, the following possibilities could lead this issue:
>
> 1. Did you find the "read-only" attribute on the file by right-clicking the
> file and clicking Properties?
> 2. The NTFS permissions were not properly configured.
> 3. The sharing permissions were not properly configured.
> 4. The document is opened by several users at the same time
>
> Here, I would suggest you try the following action plan:
>
> 1. Go to the SBS server. Open Windows Explorer and navigate to that shared
> folder. Right-click it and choose 'Properties'. In 'Security' tab, check
> the user and permission list. Make sure the Users group has the
> modify/read&excute/list folder contents/read/write permissions on the
> folder.
> 2. The shared folder access is also controlled by the sharing permission.
> Navigate to 'Sharing' tab, click 'Permissions' button. Assign 'Full
> control' permission to Users group.
> 3. Please also check the permission on each file. Normally, the files
> should inherit the folder permissions. You may click 'Advanced' button in
> 'Security' tab of the file properties. Navigate to 'Effective permissions'
> tab. Select a user and query the effective permission for the particular
> user.
> 4. We cannot open an office document from multiple users for modification
> at the same time. Let the users close all documents and then go to a
> workstation and try the access. Does the problem still occur?
>
> If the problem still persists, to narrow down the problem, would you please
> help me collect the following information?
>
> 1. Use the xcacls to help me collect the permission of the folder, please
> refer to the following KB article:
>
> 245015 How to: Print Folder and File Permissions from One Folder
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=245015
>
> 2. Can you save files to these folders directly? For example: open a word
> document and then save to the folder.
> 3. Does the situation occur on every user accounts include Admin?
> 4. If you create a new file on the folder and then open it and modify and
> then save it, does the situation occur?
> 5. If you create a new folder on the shared drive, can the situation occur?
> Does the situation occur on other partition?
>
> I appreciate your time and I look forward to hearing from you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Crina Li (MSFT)
>
> Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
>
> Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security
>
> ================================================== ===
> This newsgroup only focuses on SBS technical issues. If you have issues
> regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
> newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
> You can locate the newsgroup here:
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx
>
> When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
> "Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
> any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
> please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
> issue.
>
> Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
> provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
> different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
> so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.
>
> For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
> check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers.
>
> Any input or comments in this thread are highly appreciated.
>
> ================================================== ===
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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> | Subject: Unable to update Shared Files in a Shared Folder - SBS 2003
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> | Hi,
> | We have recently moved to SBS 2003 and the shared folders now have the
> | Read-only attribute set. I have read KB326549 and tried to change the
> | attributes of the folder without success. I read also in a previous
> | posting that the fact the the folder has the R/O attribute would't
> | prevent for updating a file but the fact is that if I open a file,
> | modify it and try to save it I get the message "The file is read-only".
> | (I can save it as a new file in the same directory though).
> | Any help will be appreciated.
> |
> | Thanks
> |
> | Carlos
> |
> |
>
>

Hi Carlos,

Thanks for your update.

I am glad to hear the problem is resolved.

It is my pleasure to work with you in this post. If you encounter any
difficulties in the future, please submit the post to the newsgroup. We
are glad to be of the assistance.

Again, thank you for using Microsoft newsgroup. Have a nice day.

Best regards,

Crina Li (MSFT)

Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support

Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security

================================================== ===
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regarding other Microsoft products, you'd better post in the corresponding
newsgroups so that they can be resolved in an efficient and timely manner.
You can locate the newsgroup here:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...s/default.aspx

When opening a new thread via the web interface, we recommend you check the
"Notify me of replies" box to receive e-mail notifications when there are
any updates in your thread. When responding to posts via your newsreader,
please "Reply to Group" so that others may learn and benefit from your
issue.

Microsoft engineers can only focus on one issue per thread. Although we
provide other information for your reference, we recommend you post
different incidents in different threads to keep the thread clean. In doing
so, it will ensure your issues are resolved in a timely manner.

For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft CSS directly. Please
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| Hi Crina,
| I am sorry for not responding fast enough. On the evening of the 11 I
| modified the permissions under the security tab and that fixed the
problem.
| I really appreciate your detailed posting. Also it gives me the comfort
of
| validating what I did.
| Thank you very much for your thorough response.
|
| Carlos
| ""Crina Li"" wrote:
|
| > Hi Carlos,
| >
| > Thank you for posting in the SBS Newsgroup.
| >
| > I am sorry for the delayed response due to weekend. Please understand
that
| > the newsgroups are staffed weekdays by Microsoft Support professionals
to
| > answer your systems and applications questions. Your understanding is
| > greatly appreciated!
| >
| > From your description, I understand that you get the message "The files
is
| > read-only" if you modify a shared file located in a shared folder and
save
| > it. If I have misunderstood your concern, please do not hesitate to let
me
| > know.
| >
| > Do you mean you have used the Attrib command at a command prompt to
change
| > the attributes of the folder?
| >
| > For example, to change the Read-only attribute to System for the
C:\Test
| > folder, use the following command:
| >
| > "attrib -r +s c:\test" (without the quotation marks)
| >
| > Note that some programs may not operate correctly with folders that
have
| > the System attribute set. To remove both the Read-only and System
| > attributes from the C:\Test folder, use the following command:
| >
| > "attrib -r -s c:\test" (without the quotation marks)
| >
| > It appears that you are unable to get rid of the read-only attribute of
the
| > folder. As I know, unlike the Read-only attribute for a file, the
Read-only
| > attribute for a folder is typically ignored by Windows, Windows
components
| > and accessories, and other programs. For example, you can delete,
rename,
| > and change a folder with the Read-only attribute by using Windows
Explorer.
| > The Read-only and System attributes is only used by Windows Explorer to
| > determine whether the folder is a special folder, such as a system
folder
| > that has its view customized by Windows (for example, My Documents,
| > Favorites, Fonts, Downloaded Program Files), or a folder that you
| > customized by using the "Customize" tab of the folder's "Properties"
dialog
| > box. As a result, Windows Explorer does not allow you to view or change
the
| > Read-only or System attributes of folders.
| >
| > Note: In some previous versions of Windows, you can change the
Read-only
| > attribute for folders by using the "Properties" dialog box for the
folder,
| > but no versions of Windows permit you to change the System attribute by
| > using Windows Explorer.
| >
| > To get more detailed information regarding this behavior, you may refer
to
| > the following KB article:
| >
| > 326549 You Cannot View or Change the Read-Only or System Attribute of
| > Folders
| > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=326549
| >
| > As I know, the following possibilities could lead this issue:
| >
| > 1. Did you find the "read-only" attribute on the file by right-clicking
the
| > file and clicking Properties?
| > 2. The NTFS permissions were not properly configured.
| > 3. The sharing permissions were not properly configured.
| > 4. The document is opened by several users at the same time
| >
| > Here, I would suggest you try the following action plan:
| >
| > 1. Go to the SBS server. Open Windows Explorer and navigate to that
shared
| > folder. Right-click it and choose 'Properties'. In 'Security' tab,
check
| > the user and permission list. Make sure the Users group has the
| > modify/read&excute/list folder contents/read/write permissions on the
| > folder.
| > 2. The shared folder access is also controlled by the sharing
permission.
| > Navigate to 'Sharing' tab, click 'Permissions' button. Assign 'Full
| > control' permission to Users group.
| > 3. Please also check the permission on each file. Normally, the files
| > should inherit the folder permissions. You may click 'Advanced' button
in
| > 'Security' tab of the file properties. Navigate to 'Effective
permissions'
| > tab. Select a user and query the effective permission for the
particular
| > user.
| > 4. We cannot open an office document from multiple users for
modification
| > at the same time. Let the users close all documents and then go to a
| > workstation and try the access. Does the problem still occur?
| >
| > If the problem still persists, to narrow down the problem, would you
please
| > help me collect the following information?
| >
| > 1. Use the xcacls to help me collect the permission of the folder,
please
| > refer to the following KB article:
| >
| > 245015 How to: Print Folder and File Permissions from One Folder
| > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=245015
| >
| > 2. Can you save files to these folders directly? For example: open a
word
| > document and then save to the folder.
| > 3. Does the situation occur on every user accounts include Admin?
| > 4. If you create a new file on the folder and then open it and modify
and
| > then save it, does the situation occur?
| > 5. If you create a new folder on the shared drive, can the situation
occur?
| > Does the situation occur on other partition?
| >
| > I appreciate your time and I look forward to hearing from you.
| >
| > Best regards,
| >
| > Crina Li (MSFT)
| >
| > Microsoft CSS Online Newsgroup Support
| >
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| > | Subject: Unable to update Shared Files in a Shared Folder - SBS 2003
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| > | Hi,
| > | We have recently moved to SBS 2003 and the shared folders now have the
| > | Read-only attribute set. I have read KB326549 and tried to change the
| > | attributes of the folder without success. I read also in a previous
| > | posting that the fact the the folder has the R/O attribute would't
| > | prevent for updating a file but the fact is that if I open a file,
| > | modify it and try to save it I get the message "The file is
read-only".
| > | (I can save it as a new file in the same directory though).
| > | Any help will be appreciated.
| > |
| > | Thanks
| > |
| > | Carlos
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
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