Re: Upgrading from XP to Windows 7 64bit..

Hüseyin Aliz <> wrote:

>I have currently a wish to upgrade from XP (32bit) to Windows 7 - 64bit. The options are:
>
>1) Upgrade to MS Vista, then upgrade to Windows 7.
>2) Make use of 3rd party software to make a inplace upgrade of XP to Win7 (Pcmover, zinstall etc).
>3) Make a clean of Win7 (without formatting the disk).

Hello Hüseyin,

I have just finished doing what you want to do.
But I used another option - I created a dual boot system.

If you have enough disk space why don't you just create another
partition for W7?

My intial XP system was on a 500GB drive with 3 partitions: C, D and
E. I had ove 150GB free so I decided to create another partition for
W7, the F partition (I used partition magic to shorten the D & E
partitions and create the new F). I then upgraded to W7 Professional -
64bit.

Since you can not upgrade to W7 form within XP you have to boot from
the W7 install disk. Eventually it'll ask where you want to put it and
you point it to the new clean partition, in my case F. Once installed,
when you choose W7 from the startup menu, your new W7 partition will
become the 'C' partition!! and the former XP C partition may become D;
the former D becomes E and E becomes F. But that doesn't matter if you
are in W7.

(On another install, the former XP C partition was placed at the end
and became F. The former D & E partitions stayed as D & E. - how that
happened I don't know, but I liked it :-) )

Now you have the option of using either system and if you run the
install in W7 on some existing applications to the same place where
they were in XP, you can run that application from bothe systems. That
works only for apps that can run under W7. The W7 install is to create
the required W7 registry entries.
To preserve all the apps setups, I first renamed the app and
re-installed it from W7. I then deleted that install (not uninstalled
as that would get rid of registry entries) and renamed the original
back to its normal name.
I did that to my MS Flight Sim which takes up a lot of space and I
didn't want 2 copies nor did I want to maintain 2 sets of addons. That
would have been a nightmare.

Just my experience with W7.

-=tom=-

Hi Tom,

Thanks for your input. I am running XP on a laptop with only 1 partition, so
either i should reorganize my partition (like shrinking partition to make
room for a new one or go ahead and delete/create partitions).

Anyway, maybe i should think more about it

What is your opinion about Win7, could it not replace your XP installations?

Regards,
Hüseyin

"Tom Orle" <> skrev i en meddelelse
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> Hüseyin Aliz <> wrote:
>
>>I have currently a wish to upgrade from XP (32bit) to Windows 7 - 64bit.
>>The options are:
>>
>>1) Upgrade to MS Vista, then upgrade to Windows 7.
>>2) Make use of 3rd party software to make a inplace upgrade of XP to Win7
>>(Pcmover, zinstall etc).
>>3) Make a clean of Win7 (without formatting the disk).
>
> Hello Hüseyin,
>
> I have just finished doing what you want to do.
> But I used another option - I created a dual boot system.
>
> If you have enough disk space why don't you just create another
> partition for W7?
>
> My intial XP system was on a 500GB drive with 3 partitions: C, D and
> E. I had ove 150GB free so I decided to create another partition for
> W7, the F partition (I used partition magic to shorten the D & E
> partitions and create the new F). I then upgraded to W7 Professional -
> 64bit.
>
> Since you can not upgrade to W7 form within XP you have to boot from
> the W7 install disk. Eventually it'll ask where you want to put it and
> you point it to the new clean partition, in my case F. Once installed,
> when you choose W7 from the startup menu, your new W7 partition will
> become the 'C' partition!! and the former XP C partition may become D;
> the former D becomes E and E becomes F. But that doesn't matter if you
> are in W7.
>
> (On another install, the former XP C partition was placed at the end
> and became F. The former D & E partitions stayed as D & E. - how that
> happened I don't know, but I liked it :-) )
>
> Now you have the option of using either system and if you run the
> install in W7 on some existing applications to the same place where
> they were in XP, you can run that application from bothe systems. That
> works only for apps that can run under W7. The W7 install is to create
> the required W7 registry entries.
> To preserve all the apps setups, I first renamed the app and
> re-installed it from W7. I then deleted that install (not uninstalled
> as that would get rid of registry entries) and renamed the original
> back to its normal name.
> I did that to my MS Flight Sim which takes up a lot of space and I
> didn't want 2 copies nor did I want to maintain 2 sets of addons. That
> would have been a nightmare.
>
> Just my experience with W7.
>
> -=tom=-
>
>
>
>
>

On 07/12/2009 in message <> Hüseyin
Aliz wrote:

>Thanks for your input. I am running XP on a laptop with only 1 partition,
>so either i should reorganize my partition (like shrinking partition to
>make room for a new one or go ahead and delete/create partitions).
>
>Anyway, maybe i should think more about it
>
>What is your opinion about Win7, could it not replace your XP
>installations?

Win7 is solid and stable and I have switched to it from XP on my main PC,
I tried Vista but didn't like it.

You mentioned you have a laptop - if it has an Intel chipset then check
the driver situation before moving to Win7. Many Intel drivers are *NOT*
included with Win7. Although some come down in system update there is
currently no Win7 driver for the Intel Extreme graphics card.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is

Jeff,
Additionally, this is the right place to start looking for Intel drivers:
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx
I found there Win 7 x64 drivers for my 945 Express chipset (GMA 950 graphics
and AHCI).
Synaptics touchpad drivers can be found here:
http://www.synaptics.com/support/drivers
Carlos

"Jeff Gaines" wrote:

> On 07/12/2009 in message <> Hüseyin
> Aliz wrote:
>
> >Thanks for your input. I am running XP on a laptop with only 1 partition,
> >so either i should reorganize my partition (like shrinking partition to
> >make room for a new one or go ahead and delete/create partitions).
> >
> >Anyway, maybe i should think more about it
> >
> >What is your opinion about Win7, could it not replace your XP
> >installations?
>
> Win7 is solid and stable and I have switched to it from XP on my main PC,
> I tried Vista but didn't like it.
>
> You mentioned you have a laptop - if it has an Intel chipset then check
> the driver situation before moving to Win7. Many Intel drivers are *NOT*
> included with Win7. Although some come down in system update there is
> currently no Win7 driver for the Intel Extreme graphics card.
>
> --
> Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
> If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is
> .
>

Hi Jeff & Carlos,

I have a HP laptop, and all Win7 drivers seems to be available from HP. So
there is no driver issue i guess

Regards,
Hüseyin

"Carlos" <> skrev i en meddelelse
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> Jeff,
> Additionally, this is the right place to start looking for Intel drivers:
> http://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx
> I found there Win 7 x64 drivers for my 945 Express chipset (GMA 950
> graphics
> and AHCI).
> Synaptics touchpad drivers can be found here:
> http://www.synaptics.com/support/drivers
> Carlos
>
> "Jeff Gaines" wrote:
>
>> On 07/12/2009 in message <> Hüseyin
>> Aliz wrote:
>>
>> >Thanks for your input. I am running XP on a laptop with only 1
>> >partition,
>> >so either i should reorganize my partition (like shrinking partition to
>> >make room for a new one or go ahead and delete/create partitions).
>> >
>> >Anyway, maybe i should think more about it
>> >
>> >What is your opinion about Win7, could it not replace your XP
>> >installations?
>>
>> Win7 is solid and stable and I have switched to it from XP on my main PC,
>> I tried Vista but didn't like it.
>>
>> You mentioned you have a laptop - if it has an Intel chipset then check
>> the driver situation before moving to Win7. Many Intel drivers are *NOT*
>> included with Win7. Although some come down in system update there is
>> currently no Win7 driver for the Intel Extreme graphics card.
>>
>> --
>> Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
>> If it's not broken, mess around with it until it is
>> .
>>

On 07/12/2009 in message
<FE8D745E-2047-4368-B87F-> Carlos wrote:

>Jeff,
>Additionally, this is the right place to start looking for Intel drivers:
>http://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx
>I found there Win 7 x64 drivers for my 945 Express chipset (GMA 950
>graphics
>and AHCI).

Not the Intel(R) 82852/82855 GM/GME Graphics Controller though :-)

There was a driver supplied with Vista but not with Win7 for some reason.

--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
Indecision is the key to flexibility

Hüseyin,

>What is your opinion about Win7, could it not replace your XP installations?

So far I like it. But it takes some getting used to.

I need XP because Win7 doesn't have drivers for some of my hardware.
And some special software I have won't run under it.

Initially I thought of downloading the virtual XP mode addon for Win7
but I read too many negative comments about it - being only an XP
with limited functions and also being slow. So I decided to go the
dual-boot way.

Have you considered upgrading to a larger notebook hard drive? These
are getting cheaper by the day.

-=tom=-

Hi Tom,

I am lucky with the drivers, currently all my laptop drivers for win7 seems
to be released by HP. Also I have app. 150GB left space on the harddrive, so
the space won't be a issue. Just need to be sure I have a full backup of my
xp system before i either choose to install dual-boot or clean install of
win7.

Regards,
Hüseyin

"Tom Orle" <> skrev i en meddelelse
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> Hüseyin,
>
>>What is your opinion about Win7, could it not replace your XP
>>installations?
>
> So far I like it. But it takes some getting used to.
>
> I need XP because Win7 doesn't have drivers for some of my hardware.
> And some special software I have won't run under it.
>
> Initially I thought of downloading the virtual XP mode addon for Win7
> but I read too many negative comments about it - being only an XP
> with limited functions and also being slow. So I decided to go the
> dual-boot way.
>
> Have you considered upgrading to a larger notebook hard drive? These
> are getting cheaper by the day.
>
> -=tom=-
>
>

"Hüseyin Aliz" <> wrote:

>Hi Tom,
>
>I am lucky with the drivers, currently all my laptop drivers for win7 seems
>to be released by HP. Also I have app. 150GB left space on the harddrive, so
>the space won't be a issue. Just need to be sure I have a full backup of my
>xp system before i either choose to install dual-boot or clean install of
>win7.
Hüseyin,

What about your external peripherals like a printer and/or scanner?

That was one of my issues - I have an older HP multifunction
printer/scanner/copier which does not have full W7 support.
I can print with it but the W7 default scanner driver won't allow me
to select all the different resolutions I could under XP.

-=tom=-

Hi Tom,

I dont have a scanner and printer should not be a issue

Regards,
Hüseyin

"Tom Orle" <> skrev i en meddelelse
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> "Hüseyin Aliz" <> wrote:
>
>>Hi Tom,
>>
>>I am lucky with the drivers, currently all my laptop drivers for win7
>>seems
>>to be released by HP. Also I have app. 150GB left space on the harddrive,
>>so
>>the space won't be a issue. Just need to be sure I have a full backup of
>>my
>>xp system before i either choose to install dual-boot or clean install of
>>win7.
> Hüseyin,
>
> What about your external peripherals like a printer and/or scanner?
>
> That was one of my issues - I have an older HP multifunction
> printer/scanner/copier which does not have full W7 support.
> I can print with it but the W7 default scanner driver won't allow me
> to select all the different resolutions I could under XP.
>
> -=tom=-
>