Re: Upgrading from XP to Windows 7 64bit..

Tom,
Every time you boot XP, it destroys Windows 7 restore points.
Please take that into account.
Carlos

"Tom Orle" wrote:

> Hüseyin,
>
> >What is your opinion about Win7, could it not replace your XP installations?
>
> So far I like it. But it takes some getting used to.
>
> I need XP because Win7 doesn't have drivers for some of my hardware.
> And some special software I have won't run under it.
>
> Initially I thought of downloading the virtual XP mode addon for Win7
> but I read too many negative comments about it - being only an XP
> with limited functions and also being slow. So I decided to go the
> dual-boot way.
>
> Have you considered upgrading to a larger notebook hard drive? These
> are getting cheaper by the day.
>
> -=tom=-
>
>
> .
>

Carlos <> wrote:

>Tom,
>Every time you boot XP, it destroys Windows 7 restore points.
>Please take that into account.
>Carlos

Interesting! I didn't know that. But don't the restore points get
placed on the respective XP or W7 boot partitions?

In my case, when in XP it is on 'C' and W7's boot partition is 'F'.
(Under W7, 'F' gets reassigned to 'C' and the XP boot partition became
'G' (the DVD drive slippet in between as 'F')). In either case the
boot partitions are totally seperate.

Confused me ...

-=tom=-

Carlos <> wrote:

>Tom,
>Every time you boot XP, it destroys Windows 7 restore points.
>Please take that into account.
>Carlos

I forgot to mention this in my last post:

What I find curious is that when I enter hibernate from XP, it comes
up in XP at the next startup. When I enter hibernate from W7, it comes
up in W7. At not time does the bootmanagers OS selection screen come
up when I wake up from a hibernate shutdown.

Both my boot partitions have their own hiberfil.sys files but how does
the system know which was the last one used?
I realize that there is a hidden, unnamed partition the bootmanager
uses which may explain the above. But are restore points put in that
partition as well??

In any case, destroyed restore points don't bother me that much as I
do take backups of both boot partitions once a week. At least for now
while my dual boot system is still new.

-=tom=-

That's because when you put the computer in hibernate an image of the
current state of the OS you're in is saved to the hard drive. When you
bring it out of hibernate the system is restored to the state of the
image saved to the hard drive. The system is not booting from a Zero
state is why you don't see a boot manager OS selection screen. Nothing
Magic!


On 2009-12-10 15:47, Tom Orle wrote:
> Carlos<> wrote:
>
>> Tom,
>> Every time you boot XP, it destroys Windows 7 restore points.
>> Please take that into account.
>> Carlos
>
> I forgot to mention this in my last post:
>
> What I find curious is that when I enter hibernate from XP, it comes
> up in XP at the next startup. When I enter hibernate from W7, it comes
> up in W7. At not time does the bootmanagers OS selection screen come
> up when I wake up from a hibernate shutdown.
>
> Both my boot partitions have their own hiberfil.sys files but how does
> the system know which was the last one used?
> I realize that there is a hidden, unnamed partition the bootmanager
> uses which may explain the above. But are restore points put in that
> partition as well??
>
> In any case, destroyed restore points don't bother me that much as I
> do take backups of both boot partitions once a week. At least for now
> while my dual boot system is still new.
>
> -=tom=-

Hi, Tom.

"Tom Orle" <> wrote in message
news:...
> Carlos <> wrote:
>
>>Tom,
>>Every time you boot XP, it destroys Windows 7 restore points.
>>Please take that into account.
>>Carlos
>
> Interesting! I didn't know that. But don't the restore points get
> placed on the respective XP or W7 boot partitions?
>
> In my case, when in XP it is on 'C' and W7's boot partition is 'F'.
> (Under W7, 'F' gets reassigned to 'C' and the XP boot partition became
> 'G' (the DVD drive slippet in between as 'F')). In either case the
> boot partitions are totally seperate.
>
> Confused me ...
>
> -=tom=-

Confuses a LOT of users! :^{

But read KB 314470:
Definitions for system volume and boot volume
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314470/EN-US/

That KB has not been updated for Win7, but the rules still apply, as they
have since at least Win2K.

One thing that HAS changed in Win7, though, is Setup's assignment of drive
letters when Win7 is installed by booting from the DVD. When we boot into
an existing Windows installation, then insert the Win7 DVD and run Setup, it
can "see" the drive letters that have already been installed by the existing
Windows and use those letters for the new Win7, just as Win2K/XP/Vista did.
By assigning letters before running Setup, we can easily put Vista into V:
and Win7 into W:, if we choose.

But when we boot from the Win7 DVD to run Setup, it has no idea what letters
may have been assigned in the past. Setup starts with a clean slate. In
this situation, Vista (and prior) assigned C: to the System Partition. But
Win7 Setup first assigns "C:" to its own BOOT volume - where it installs
Win7 - even if that is the 3rd partition on the second HDD. Then, if the
System Partition is not the same as C:, it will assign the next letter,
usually D:, to the System Partition, which is typically (but not always) the
first partition on the first HDD - which the previous Windows installation
probably still refers to as C:. This doesn't confuse the computer or
Windows, but it does confuse a lot of users.

RC
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