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Gene E. Bloch
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      09-13-2010
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 03:45:59 -0700 (PDT), species8350 wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I cannot find on my machine.
>
> Yet, I can use 'Help and Support', I can click on the links and get
> the information.
>
> How can I achieve this without the exe file?
>
> Thanks
>
> A


winhlp32.exe is for the old versions of Windows. Vista uses a newer
scheme.

Or else it's the other way around :-)

I just looked. The newer help file I tried won't open with winhlp32.exe.

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      09-15-2010
On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 03:42:25 -0700 (PDT), species8350 wrote:

> On Sep 13, 10:34*pm, "Gene E. Bloch" <not...@other.invalid> wrote:
>> On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 03:45:59 -0700 (PDT), species8350 wrote:
>>> Hi,

>>
>>> I cannot find *on my machine.

>>
>>> Yet, I can use 'Help and Support', I can click on the links and get
>>> the information.

>>
>>> How can I achieve this without the exe file?

>>
>>> Thanks

>>
>>> A

>>
>> winhlp32.exe is for the old versions of Windows. Vista uses a newer
>> scheme.
>>
>> Or else it's the other way around :-)
>>
>> I just looked. The newer help file I tried won't open with winhlp32.exe.
>>
>> --
>> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

>
> Gene,
>
> Thanks for responding.
>
> That seems to explain it, winhlp32.exe must have been replaced by a
> 'newer scheme'. I wonder what it is?
>
> Best wishes.
>
> A


I looked at the shortcut the other day when I posted my first reply; I
didn't find a clue and I was too lazy to really search.

When I first started with Vista, I was told that I had to download
winhlp32 (from Microsoft for free) to be able to use the old-style help
files. I think it was an error pop-up somewhere in Windows, but to tell
the truth I just don't recall now how I learned this.

Anyway, you made me feel guilty :-) ... so I just browsed through my
C:\Windows directory and found hh.exe, which identifies itself as
"Microsoft HTML Help Executable". That's surely it - it triggered a
feeling of familiarity.

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      09-16-2010
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:39:09 -0700 (PDT), species8350 wrote:

> On Sep 15, 11:13*pm, "Gene E. Bloch" <not...@other.invalid> wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 03:42:25 -0700 (PDT), species8350 wrote:
>>> On Sep 13, 10:34*pm, "Gene E. Bloch" <not...@other.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 03:45:59 -0700 (PDT), species8350 wrote:
>>>>> Hi,

>>
>>>>> I cannot find *on my machine.

>>
>>>>> Yet, I can use 'Help and Support', I can click on the links and get
>>>>> the information.

>>
>>>>> How can I achieve this without the exe file?

>>
>>>>> Thanks

>>
>>>>> A

>>
>>>> winhlp32.exe is for the old versions of Windows. Vista uses a newer
>>>> scheme.

>>
>>>> Or else it's the other way around :-)

>>
>>>> I just looked. The newer help file I tried won't open with winhlp32.exe.

>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

>>
>>> Gene,

>>
>>> Thanks for responding.

>>
>>> That seems to explain it, winhlp32.exe must have been replaced by a
>>> 'newer scheme'. I wonder what it is?

>>
>>> Best wishes.

>>
>>> A

>>
>> I looked at the shortcut the other day when I posted my first reply; I
>> didn't find a clue and I was too lazy to really search.
>>
>> When I first started with Vista, I was told that I had to download
>> winhlp32 (from Microsoft for free) to be able to use the old-style help
>> files. I think it was an error pop-up somewhere in Windows, but to tell
>> the truth I just don't recall now how I learned this.
>>
>> Anyway, you made me feel guilty :-) ... so I just browsed through my
>> C:\Windows directory and found hh.exe, which identifies itself as
>> "Microsoft HTML Help Executable". That's surely it - it triggered a
>> feeling of familiarity.
>>
>> --
>> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> hh.exe is on my machine too.
>
> Don't click on it, nothing happens.
>
> Best wishes.
>
> A


I didn't click on it, since I expect it to be used only when one clicks
on Help in a menu.

But I just opened a command window in C:\Windows and typed hh /? and it
opened a window with a directory listing.

My next step was to find a .chm file and open it by typing hh
whatever.chm. I got a help screen. I also got the same screen by
double-clicking the file in a Windows Explorer window, or by choosing
Open with and selecting "Microsoft HTML Help Executable", which we now
know is hh.

If instead I try to open it with winhlp32.exe, I get "The xxx file is
not a Windows Help file, or the file is corrupted".

OTOH, .hlp files open in winhlp32 but fail in hh.

That is a pretty exhaustive and conclusive study, if you ask me.

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      09-17-2010
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 02:55:38 -0700 (PDT), species8350 wrote:

> On Sep 16, 7:07*pm, "Gene E. Bloch" <not...@other.invalid> wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:39:09 -0700 (PDT), species8350 wrote:
>>> On Sep 15, 11:13*pm, "Gene E. Bloch" <not...@other.invalid> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 03:42:25 -0700 (PDT), species8350 wrote:
>>>>> On Sep 13, 10:34*pm, "Gene E. Bloch" <not...@other.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 03:45:59 -0700 (PDT), species8350 wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,

>>
>>>>>>> I cannot find *on my machine.

>>
>>>>>>> Yet, I can use 'Help and Support', I can click on the links and get
>>>>>>> the information.

>>
>>>>>>> How can I achieve this without the exe file?

>>
>>>>>>> Thanks

>>
>>>>>>> A

>>
>>>>>> winhlp32.exe is for the old versions of Windows. Vista uses a newer
>>>>>> scheme.

>>
>>>>>> Or else it's the other way around :-)

>>
>>>>>> I just looked. The newer help file I tried won't open with winhlp32.exe.

>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

>>
>>>>> Gene,

>>
>>>>> Thanks for responding.

>>
>>>>> That seems to explain it, winhlp32.exe must have been replaced by a
>>>>> 'newer scheme'. I wonder what it is?

>>
>>>>> Best wishes.

>>
>>>>> A

>>
>>>> I looked at the shortcut the other day when I posted my first reply; I
>>>> didn't find a clue and I was too lazy to really search.

>>
>>>> When I first started with Vista, I was told that I had to download
>>>> winhlp32 (from Microsoft for free) to be able to use the old-style help
>>>> files. I think it was an error pop-up somewhere in Windows, but to tell
>>>> the truth I just don't recall now how I learned this.

>>
>>>> Anyway, you made me feel guilty :-) ... so I just browsed through my
>>>> C:\Windows directory and found hh.exe, which identifies itself as
>>>> "Microsoft HTML Help Executable". That's surely it - it triggered a
>>>> feeling of familiarity.

>>
>>>> --
>>>> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)- Hide quoted text -

>>
>>>> - Show quoted text -

>>
>>> hh.exe is on my machine too.

>>
>>> Don't click on it, nothing happens.

>>
>>> Best wishes.

>>
>>> A

>>
>> I didn't click on it, since I expect it to be used only when one clicks
>> on Help in a menu.
>>
>> But I just opened a command window in C:\Windows and typed hh /? and it
>> opened a window with a directory listing.
>>
>> My next step was to find a .chm file and open it by typing hh
>> whatever.chm. I got a help screen. I also got the same screen by
>> double-clicking the file in a Windows Explorer window, or by choosing
>> Open with and selecting "Microsoft HTML Help Executable", which we now
>> know is hh.
>>
>> If instead I try to open it with winhlp32.exe, I get "The xxx file is
>> not a Windows Help file, or the file is corrupted".
>>
>> OTOH, .hlp files open in winhlp32 but fail in hh.
>>
>> That is a pretty exhaustive and conclusive study, if you ask me.
>>
>> --
>> Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
> Agreed


Well, what the heck - I had fun, and it might have been the only useful
thing I did yesterday :-)

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