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      06-02-2010



"Diane_Toronto" wrote:

> I'm a Vista and IE user, not a Developer.
> Sequence of events:
> last week... downloaded Vista Service Pack 1
> this week... IE8 has stopped working... screen goes white... DEP
> problem (blocks code execution) or DEP/NX No-Execute Memory
> Protection.
> (DEP problems can occasionally occur with DEP-compliant core operating
> system components such as Windows Explorer, Internet Explorer and
> Windows Installer as they support in-process third party extensions or
> plugins that may not be DEP-compliant.)
> Went through Windows-based programs, add-ons, and software... no
> problems.
> IE says add ons are turned off, however Tools, Add ons say they're
> enabled :/
> this week... IE8 won't run... Problem Event Name: BEX, App Name:
> iexplore.exe.
> IE is part of OS so I can't uninstall it. Tried over-installing IE8
> but they said I have a newer version running... not true; also said
> IE8 was "not compatible with my Vista 32"! Tried all downloads.
> Tried to download earlier versions... no go.
> Not only does "Internet Explorer" crash, but "Windows Explorer" the OS
> crashes... everything on the Desktop disappears.
> Mozilla Firefox... can't get in, cursor goes around in circles, have
> to Restart.
> My Seagate Replica External Drive has disconnected itself.
> Windows Defender and Avira Antivirus show no problems.
> Internet Options, Security Tab, the 4 zones are 'default' as required.
> I've been all over the net and there seems to be no resolutions to
> these problems. Thing is, that some programs only want to open in IE.
> (Firefox is now my default browser, and Safari is now my 2nd backup.)
> I am no longer using Internet Explorer (IE8); I have no choice.
> Thanks for listening.
> .
>


Why are you just now installing SP1? Vista is at SP2 for over a year. Back
up your data before proceeding, because YOU have probably severely
compromised the OS.

Clean boot the machine and unisstall SP1. Reboot in clean state and
uninstall IE8. Clean boot again and install SP1, reboot and install SP2.
Reboot and install all updates to the OS and see how it runs under IE7. If
you have trouble installing the Service Packs, YOU probably have plenty of
malware to deal with first that YOU don't even know about. Download
Malwarebytes and Super Antispyware and run complete scans.

Once you have the machine cleaned up and it runs as it should under IE7 with
both SP1 and SP2 installed; THEN try IE8. Again, install from clean boot:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135

Funny, SP2 and IE8 installed and work perfectly on my Vista media center;
obviously since Vista is "broken" as everybody claims, I must have done
something horribly wrong with my machine that allows it to run so well.
 
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Bob
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      06-02-2010
SP1 totally hosed my PC. I had to restore it to factory condition.

"Mark Adams" <> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> "Diane_Toronto" wrote:
>
>> I'm a Vista and IE user, not a Developer.
>> Sequence of events:
>> last week... downloaded Vista Service Pack 1
>> this week... IE8 has stopped working... screen goes white... DEP
>> problem (blocks code execution) or DEP/NX No-Execute Memory
>> Protection.
>> (DEP problems can occasionally occur with DEP-compliant core operating
>> system components such as Windows Explorer, Internet Explorer and
>> Windows Installer as they support in-process third party extensions or
>> plugins that may not be DEP-compliant.)
>> Went through Windows-based programs, add-ons, and software... no
>> problems.
>> IE says add ons are turned off, however Tools, Add ons say they're
>> enabled :/
>> this week... IE8 won't run... Problem Event Name: BEX, App Name:
>> iexplore.exe.
>> IE is part of OS so I can't uninstall it. Tried over-installing IE8
>> but they said I have a newer version running... not true; also said
>> IE8 was "not compatible with my Vista 32"! Tried all downloads.
>> Tried to download earlier versions... no go.
>> Not only does "Internet Explorer" crash, but "Windows Explorer" the OS
>> crashes... everything on the Desktop disappears.
>> Mozilla Firefox... can't get in, cursor goes around in circles, have
>> to Restart.
>> My Seagate Replica External Drive has disconnected itself.
>> Windows Defender and Avira Antivirus show no problems.
>> Internet Options, Security Tab, the 4 zones are 'default' as required.
>> I've been all over the net and there seems to be no resolutions to
>> these problems. Thing is, that some programs only want to open in IE.
>> (Firefox is now my default browser, and Safari is now my 2nd backup.)
>> I am no longer using Internet Explorer (IE8); I have no choice.
>> Thanks for listening.
>> .
>>

>
> Why are you just now installing SP1? Vista is at SP2 for over a year. Back
> up your data before proceeding, because YOU have probably severely
> compromised the OS.
>
> Clean boot the machine and unisstall SP1. Reboot in clean state and
> uninstall IE8. Clean boot again and install SP1, reboot and install SP2.
> Reboot and install all updates to the OS and see how it runs under IE7. If
> you have trouble installing the Service Packs, YOU probably have plenty of
> malware to deal with first that YOU don't even know about. Download
> Malwarebytes and Super Antispyware and run complete scans.
>
> Once you have the machine cleaned up and it runs as it should under IE7
> with
> both SP1 and SP2 installed; THEN try IE8. Again, install from clean boot:
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135
>
> Funny, SP2 and IE8 installed and work perfectly on my Vista media center;
> obviously since Vista is "broken" as everybody claims, I must have done
> something horribly wrong with my machine that allows it to run so well.


 
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"Bob" wrote:

> SP1 totally hosed my PC. I had to restore it to factory condition.
>



Did you try installing SP1 after restoring to factory condition and under a
clean boot state?


> "Mark Adams" <> wrote in message
> news:11E9241F-BC71-4FC3-92C4-...
> >
> >
> >
> > "Diane_Toronto" wrote:
> >
> >> I'm a Vista and IE user, not a Developer.
> >> Sequence of events:
> >> last week... downloaded Vista Service Pack 1
> >> this week... IE8 has stopped working... screen goes white... DEP
> >> problem (blocks code execution) or DEP/NX No-Execute Memory
> >> Protection.
> >> (DEP problems can occasionally occur with DEP-compliant core operating
> >> system components such as Windows Explorer, Internet Explorer and
> >> Windows Installer as they support in-process third party extensions or
> >> plugins that may not be DEP-compliant.)
> >> Went through Windows-based programs, add-ons, and software... no
> >> problems.
> >> IE says add ons are turned off, however Tools, Add ons say they're
> >> enabled :/
> >> this week... IE8 won't run... Problem Event Name: BEX, App Name:
> >> iexplore.exe.
> >> IE is part of OS so I can't uninstall it. Tried over-installing IE8
> >> but they said I have a newer version running... not true; also said
> >> IE8 was "not compatible with my Vista 32"! Tried all downloads.
> >> Tried to download earlier versions... no go.
> >> Not only does "Internet Explorer" crash, but "Windows Explorer" the OS
> >> crashes... everything on the Desktop disappears.
> >> Mozilla Firefox... can't get in, cursor goes around in circles, have
> >> to Restart.
> >> My Seagate Replica External Drive has disconnected itself.
> >> Windows Defender and Avira Antivirus show no problems.
> >> Internet Options, Security Tab, the 4 zones are 'default' as required.
> >> I've been all over the net and there seems to be no resolutions to
> >> these problems. Thing is, that some programs only want to open in IE.
> >> (Firefox is now my default browser, and Safari is now my 2nd backup.)
> >> I am no longer using Internet Explorer (IE8); I have no choice.
> >> Thanks for listening.
> >> .
> >>

> >
> > Why are you just now installing SP1? Vista is at SP2 for over a year. Back
> > up your data before proceeding, because YOU have probably severely
> > compromised the OS.
> >
> > Clean boot the machine and unisstall SP1. Reboot in clean state and
> > uninstall IE8. Clean boot again and install SP1, reboot and install SP2.
> > Reboot and install all updates to the OS and see how it runs under IE7. If
> > you have trouble installing the Service Packs, YOU probably have plenty of
> > malware to deal with first that YOU don't even know about. Download
> > Malwarebytes and Super Antispyware and run complete scans.
> >
> > Once you have the machine cleaned up and it runs as it should under IE7
> > with
> > both SP1 and SP2 installed; THEN try IE8. Again, install from clean boot:
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135
> >
> > Funny, SP2 and IE8 installed and work perfectly on my Vista media center;
> > obviously since Vista is "broken" as everybody claims, I must have done
> > something horribly wrong with my machine that allows it to run so well.

>
> .
>

 
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      06-02-2010
I did not try installing again. I don't plan to either. My PC is working
fine without it.

MS has rated SP1 "important". They also rated IE8 "important". I don't
plan to install that either.

My thinking is "if it ain't broke don't fix it".


"Mark Adams" <> wrote in message
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>
>
>
> "Bob" wrote:
>
>> SP1 totally hosed my PC. I had to restore it to factory condition.
>>

>
>
> Did you try installing SP1 after restoring to factory condition and under
> a
> clean boot state?
>
>
>> "Mark Adams" <> wrote in message
>> news:11E9241F-BC71-4FC3-92C4-...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Diane_Toronto" wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm a Vista and IE user, not a Developer.
>> >> Sequence of events:
>> >> last week... downloaded Vista Service Pack 1
>> >> this week... IE8 has stopped working... screen goes white... DEP
>> >> problem (blocks code execution) or DEP/NX No-Execute Memory
>> >> Protection.
>> >> (DEP problems can occasionally occur with DEP-compliant core operating
>> >> system components such as Windows Explorer, Internet Explorer and
>> >> Windows Installer as they support in-process third party extensions or
>> >> plugins that may not be DEP-compliant.)
>> >> Went through Windows-based programs, add-ons, and software... no
>> >> problems.
>> >> IE says add ons are turned off, however Tools, Add ons say they're
>> >> enabled :/
>> >> this week... IE8 won't run... Problem Event Name: BEX, App Name:
>> >> iexplore.exe.
>> >> IE is part of OS so I can't uninstall it. Tried over-installing IE8
>> >> but they said I have a newer version running... not true; also said
>> >> IE8 was "not compatible with my Vista 32"! Tried all downloads.
>> >> Tried to download earlier versions... no go.
>> >> Not only does "Internet Explorer" crash, but "Windows Explorer" the OS
>> >> crashes... everything on the Desktop disappears.
>> >> Mozilla Firefox... can't get in, cursor goes around in circles, have
>> >> to Restart.
>> >> My Seagate Replica External Drive has disconnected itself.
>> >> Windows Defender and Avira Antivirus show no problems.
>> >> Internet Options, Security Tab, the 4 zones are 'default' as required.
>> >> I've been all over the net and there seems to be no resolutions to
>> >> these problems. Thing is, that some programs only want to open in IE.
>> >> (Firefox is now my default browser, and Safari is now my 2nd backup.)
>> >> I am no longer using Internet Explorer (IE8); I have no choice.
>> >> Thanks for listening.
>> >> .
>> >>
>> >
>> > Why are you just now installing SP1? Vista is at SP2 for over a year.
>> > Back
>> > up your data before proceeding, because YOU have probably severely
>> > compromised the OS.
>> >
>> > Clean boot the machine and unisstall SP1. Reboot in clean state and
>> > uninstall IE8. Clean boot again and install SP1, reboot and install
>> > SP2.
>> > Reboot and install all updates to the OS and see how it runs under IE7.
>> > If
>> > you have trouble installing the Service Packs, YOU probably have plenty
>> > of
>> > malware to deal with first that YOU don't even know about. Download
>> > Malwarebytes and Super Antispyware and run complete scans.
>> >
>> > Once you have the machine cleaned up and it runs as it should under IE7
>> > with
>> > both SP1 and SP2 installed; THEN try IE8. Again, install from clean
>> > boot:
>> >
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135
>> >
>> > Funny, SP2 and IE8 installed and work perfectly on my Vista media
>> > center;
>> > obviously since Vista is "broken" as everybody claims, I must have done
>> > something horribly wrong with my machine that allows it to run so well.

>>
>> .
>>


 
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"Bob" wrote:

> I did not try installing again. I don't plan to either. My PC is working
> fine without it.
>
> MS has rated SP1 "important". They also rated IE8 "important". I don't
> plan to install that either.
>
> My thinking is "if it ain't broke don't fix it".
>


Well, all you know then is that you had trouble installing SP1 on a "dirty"
machine; you didn't even try it on a "clean" one. Support for Vista without
service packs has already ended and you won't be getting any more updates:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ce-packs?os=xp

I'd hate to have to call Microsoft when YOUR machine craps out again.
Without the latest security updates, I'm sure it's already a mess and I
wouldn't bother attempting to install SP1 either. Better to stick your head
in the sand and deny than it is to patch and upgrade.

By the way, you still haven't offered any advice to me about what I did
wrong with my machine that caused Sp2 and IE8 to work so well. I guess I
still need to get that fixed. ;-}


>
> "Mark Adams" <> wrote in message
> news:3A582C99-8101-4477-93CC-...
> >
> >
> >
> > "Bob" wrote:
> >
> >> SP1 totally hosed my PC. I had to restore it to factory condition.
> >>

> >
> >
> > Did you try installing SP1 after restoring to factory condition and under
> > a
> > clean boot state?
> >
> >
> >> "Mark Adams" <> wrote in message
> >> news:11E9241F-BC71-4FC3-92C4-...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "Diane_Toronto" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I'm a Vista and IE user, not a Developer.
> >> >> Sequence of events:
> >> >> last week... downloaded Vista Service Pack 1
> >> >> this week... IE8 has stopped working... screen goes white... DEP
> >> >> problem (blocks code execution) or DEP/NX No-Execute Memory
> >> >> Protection.
> >> >> (DEP problems can occasionally occur with DEP-compliant core operating
> >> >> system components such as Windows Explorer, Internet Explorer and
> >> >> Windows Installer as they support in-process third party extensions or
> >> >> plugins that may not be DEP-compliant.)
> >> >> Went through Windows-based programs, add-ons, and software... no
> >> >> problems.
> >> >> IE says add ons are turned off, however Tools, Add ons say they're
> >> >> enabled :/
> >> >> this week... IE8 won't run... Problem Event Name: BEX, App Name:
> >> >> iexplore.exe.
> >> >> IE is part of OS so I can't uninstall it. Tried over-installing IE8
> >> >> but they said I have a newer version running... not true; also said
> >> >> IE8 was "not compatible with my Vista 32"! Tried all downloads.
> >> >> Tried to download earlier versions... no go.
> >> >> Not only does "Internet Explorer" crash, but "Windows Explorer" the OS
> >> >> crashes... everything on the Desktop disappears.
> >> >> Mozilla Firefox... can't get in, cursor goes around in circles, have
> >> >> to Restart.
> >> >> My Seagate Replica External Drive has disconnected itself.
> >> >> Windows Defender and Avira Antivirus show no problems.
> >> >> Internet Options, Security Tab, the 4 zones are 'default' as required.
> >> >> I've been all over the net and there seems to be no resolutions to
> >> >> these problems. Thing is, that some programs only want to open in IE.
> >> >> (Firefox is now my default browser, and Safari is now my 2nd backup.)
> >> >> I am no longer using Internet Explorer (IE8); I have no choice.
> >> >> Thanks for listening.
> >> >> .
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Why are you just now installing SP1? Vista is at SP2 for over a year.
> >> > Back
> >> > up your data before proceeding, because YOU have probably severely
> >> > compromised the OS.
> >> >
> >> > Clean boot the machine and unisstall SP1. Reboot in clean state and
> >> > uninstall IE8. Clean boot again and install SP1, reboot and install
> >> > SP2.
> >> > Reboot and install all updates to the OS and see how it runs under IE7.
> >> > If
> >> > you have trouble installing the Service Packs, YOU probably have plenty
> >> > of
> >> > malware to deal with first that YOU don't even know about. Download
> >> > Malwarebytes and Super Antispyware and run complete scans.
> >> >
> >> > Once you have the machine cleaned up and it runs as it should under IE7
> >> > with
> >> > both SP1 and SP2 installed; THEN try IE8. Again, install from clean
> >> > boot:
> >> >
> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135
> >> >
> >> > Funny, SP2 and IE8 installed and work perfectly on my Vista media
> >> > center;
> >> > obviously since Vista is "broken" as everybody claims, I must have done
> >> > something horribly wrong with my machine that allows it to run so well.
> >>
> >> .
> >>

>
> .
>

 
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      06-06-2010

From what I just read PCmedkit causes crashes .
http://support.blitware.com/faq/15/




On Sun, 6 Jun 2010 08:25:55 -0700 (PDT), Diane_Toronto
<> wrote:

>On Jun 2, 12:09*pm, Mark Adams <MarkAd...@discussions.microsoft.com>
>wrote:
>> "Diane_Toronto" wrote:
>> > I'm a Vista and IE user, not a Developer.
>> > Sequence of events:
>> > last week... downloaded Vista Service Pack 1
>> > this week... IE8 has stopped working... screen goes white... DEP
>> > problem (blocks code execution) or DEP/NX No-Execute Memory
>> > Protection.
>> > (DEP problems can occasionally occur with DEP-compliant core operating
>> > system components such as Windows Explorer, Internet Explorer and
>> > Windows Installer as they support in-process third party extensions or
>> > plugins that may not be DEP-compliant.)
>> > Went through Windows-based programs, add-ons, and software... no
>> > problems.
>> > IE says add ons are turned off, however Tools, Add ons say they're
>> > enabled :/
>> > this week... IE8 won't run... Problem Event Name: *BEX, App Name:
>> > iexplore.exe.
>> > IE is part of OS so I can't uninstall it. *Tried over-installing IE8
>> > but they said I have a newer version running... not true; also said
>> > IE8 was "not compatible with my Vista 32"! *Tried all downloads.
>> > Tried to download earlier versions... no go.
>> > Not only does "Internet Explorer" crash, but "Windows Explorer" the OS
>> > crashes... everything on the Desktop disappears.
>> > Mozilla Firefox... can't get in, cursor goes around in circles, have
>> > to Restart.
>> > My Seagate Replica External Drive has disconnected itself.
>> > Windows Defender and Avira Antivirus show no problems.
>> > Internet Options, Security Tab, the 4 zones are 'default' as required.
>> > I've been all over the net and there seems to be no resolutions to
>> > these problems. *Thing is, that some programs only want to open in IE.
>> > (Firefox is now my default browser, and Safari is now my 2nd backup.)
>> > I am no longer using Internet Explorer (IE8); I have no choice.
>> > Thanks for listening.
>> > .

>>
>> Why are you just now installing SP1? Vista is at SP2 for over a year. Back
>> up your data before proceeding, because YOU have probably severely
>> compromised the OS.
>>
>> Clean boot the machine and unisstall SP1. Reboot in clean state and
>> uninstall IE8. Clean boot again and install SP1, reboot and install SP2.
>> Reboot and install all updates to the OS and see how it runs under IE7. If
>> you have trouble installing the Service Packs, YOU probably have plenty of
>> malware to deal with first that YOU don't even know about. Download
>> Malwarebytes and Super Antispyware and run complete scans.
>>
>> Once you have the machine cleaned up and it runs as it should under IE7 with
>> both SP1 and SP2 installed; THEN try IE8. Again, install from clean boot:
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929135
>>
>> Funny, SP2 and IE8 installed and work perfectly on my Vista media center;
>> obviously since Vista is "broken" as everybody claims, I must have done
>> something horribly wrong with my machine that allows it to run so well.

>
>hi Mark,
>Re why did I download SP1 when SP2 has been out awhile.
>On the system tray, Windows kept saying "update". I kept ignoring it.
>Last week I finally said ok and downloaded the SP1.
>Then stared having problems. I didn't know about SP2 but figured it
>might make things worse on top of SP1 so I didn't install it.
>
>I Uninstalled SP1.
>Ran PC Med Kit, no problems.
>Ran PC Med Kit after uninstalling SP1:
> Problems: 5 app paths: 1 file extension; 11 Uninstall Entries; 50 COM
>and ActiveX Controls, fixed.
>Windows Defender, no problems.
>Avira antivirus, no problems.
>Ran Malwarebytes, 2 items, removed.
>Problems no longer showing up:
>"DEP/NX APIs No-Execute Memory Protection crash."
> (some applications & plug-ins were not DEP compliant even though IE8
>is compliant.)
>"BEX, App Crash; App Name: iexplore.exe"
>"AppHangB1, explorer.exe"
>"SyncServer.exe delayed write failed, some data may be lost; write
>protected files"
>
>Didn't uninstall IE8 as it's working fine again with no blank screen
>or popups, but thanks for instruction, will still keep it in mind.
>Programs and Files from my Start Button can be accessed again,
>although Word files are difficult... white screen; files take forever
>to come up. itunes, Windows Explorer OS, everything seem to be
>working again.
>My Seagate Replica external hard drive, which backed up my entire
>system, is still crashed... but will take it up with Seagate.
>
>

 
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