Re: Vista Speech "Accuracy Slider"?

"Mark Conrad" <none-> wrote in message
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> In article <965DE8F7-1733-47F5-A621->,
> www.MyMSSpeech.com <> wrote:
>
>> Your question is not quite complete.
>
> I know Martin, for the sake of brevity.

That's a first!

> Looking at fewer words-in-context risks WSR
> guessing the wrong word, which is why the average
> accuracy goes down.

I do not get that problem and as Marty's says, the words are on the page or
as soon as you say them, very accurate and much faster than Dragon. You do
not get the delay when dictating words in WSR as you do with Dragon.

Also, now using a 'Senneheiser MD431 ll Microphone' or on occasions the
'Senneheiser ME3 headset' and having the WSRToolkit on hand, I easily get up
to 99% accuracy now.

> Problem here is that not all speech engines are equal
> in the sense that _some_ speech engines take longer
> to figure out the correct word.

Precisely right. Dragon takes longer and is slower than WSR to put dictated
words on the screen. I know this because I have tried both.

> I can get 100% raw accuracy with WSR _provided_ and
> that I speak in this fashion.

There is no such thing as 100% accuracy in ANY speech app, I don't care what
anybody says.

The human voice only has to dictate something out of character or at a
slightly different tone to normal for any speech app to interpret it
properly to the words you want. Thus, the occasional mistake will be there.

I will admit, I am not the fastest speaker in the world and I do like to
look back on what I have written, but it suits my purpose.

> -------------------------
> now is the time.....for all good men.....
> to come to the aid of.... their country
> -------------------------

Yeah, we know. Yawn!

> (21 repetitions of the 16 word phrase:
> "now is the time for all good men
> to come to the aid of their country")

Yeah, we know. Yawn!

> WSR seems to have more trouble with short words like "the"
> and "aid" than the other two speech apps have.
> "aid" spoken by itself is almost impossible for WSR to handle.

Funny, I do not get that problem.

> should be interesting to see if I can get WSR performance
> closer to what Dragon and MacSpeech are capable of.

I already can, and you would not call me a casual user, as I use it all the
time.

> I will keep plugging away for a full month,

Yeah, you keep plugging away. Perhaps one day you will learn how to use it
properly, hopefully, before you die.

andy t

"Mark Conrad" <none-> wrote in message
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> In article <>, andy t
> <none-> wrote:

> Quite easy, really. I can speak four repititions of the
> following 16 words within ten seconds:

Repetitions, not *repititions*.

I suppose now you are going to Tell me that you did not use Dragon to
dictate that word. Hmm... Figures!

You see, you are being smug again and this is what happens, you make
yourself look a fool once more. Straight away, this dismisses your 100%
accuracy theory with Dragon.

This is exactly what I am trying to say. You only need to pronounce a word
slightly incorrectly, especially at speed, for either the wrong word to come
up or it gets confused and spells the word incorrectly, as you have done
above.

Once more for the record. Speech apps can and have been known to spell
words wrong on the screen. It has happened to me with WSR and Dragon.

You say you do not use Dragon all the time. Why do you not try and use it
all the time and use words that are not written down for you. By this I
mean words that come into your head as you would dictate normally as I have
to, see how many mistakes you make then.

Why would I want to dictate a set of words already set down on a piece of
paper? If I wanted to do that, I would simply cut and paste them into a
document. That is far quicker than using Dragon or WSR for that matter.

> now is the time for all good men
> to come to the aid of their country
>
>
> 16 x 4 x 10 = 384wpm

Um, repetition, not dictation.

If you recite certain words in order over and over again, any speech app
will remember those words and so it is not such a great feat. I can do this
no problem with WSR but that is not why I use it.

I use it as it was intended for, to be used for proper dictating and proper
dictating means the words are ad-libbed and come from your head, not a piece
of paper. (Repetitiveness).

Nobody normally, narrates like that. Imagine if you were writing something,
you would always stop and look back at each line or paragraph from time to
time. Secondly, you are narrating from a set script, which is unnatural
unless you write out what you want to dictate first, but that would be
defeating the object and it would be slower, not quicker.

> Dragon recognizes the 384wpm speed with 100%
> raw accuracy.

That proves nothing and does not necessarily mean it is 100% accurate. I
reiterate, none of the speech apps at this moment in time are 100% accurate
when using dictation properly and that does not mean reading from a script.
I have explained this already. (Repetitiveness).

I have tried WSR without any scripts but just speaking fast with whatever
comes into my head. There were no mistakes apart from the odd word, it
could not decipher because of the speed I was dictating, thus pronouncing
the odd word incorrectly. This happens because as I say, that is not the
natural way to dictate. Any speech app including Dragon, will only respond
to whatever the human voice feeds it and as we are only human, dictating at
that speed will inevitably bring up mistakes.

> Naturally, I did not cheat by using any form of macro.

I only use text macros in special circumstances such as to put my name at
the bottom of a letter or document by saying the words 'sign off' (I believe
Marty uses this macro as well for his own name and address), or by putting
in my address by saying the words 'address'. I will agree with you on that
one, the less text macros the better.

Command macros are of different kettle of fish. For someone like me who is
disabled, they are a godsend. I can zip through emails, expand or collapse
folders in an instant, such as in the newsgroups and lots more. As I say,
for someone such as me, command macro's are a necessity. Also, it is no
problem at all if I forget one of them. It is easy enough to look them up
in the speech macros folder.

Plus WSR has the 'show numbers' command, which can pick out any webpage,
e-mail or any point on the screen in an instant and is much faster than any
command Dragon possesses except possibly a purpose made command macro.
Perhaps having this facility has made me lazy, but with it, I can get to
anywhere around a computer with this much faster than in Dragon.

Having said all that, in the very near future, a local Charity have kindly
put up the funding so I may have Dragon Professional and a certain amount of
lessons on it. This may give me the incentive I need to have the choice.

I have also ordered Windows 7 when it comes out in October. You were right
about that, there are some vast improvements within the interface regarding
Windows speech recognition.

> So far, WSR is at the bottom of the speed ladder at 96wpm,
> however I hope to jack that figure up as I gain more
> experience with using WSR.

As I said before, natural dictation is not all about speed. If you can
think what you're going to say as in ad-libbing and putting that to the
screen at that speed without any mistakes, then you're a better man than I
Gunga Din. Again, the way you are showing your examples, it is not natural
dictation and no test at all. It proves nothing. (Repetitiveness).

> Now you should have no trouble at all squeezing in two
> repetitions within ten seconds, a 192wpm speaking rate.

Um, once again, that is not dictation. You even mention it yourself above
as a repetition. The speech app learns the words in the order you are
saying them. That is not true dictation. (Repetitiveness).

> I have a cheap Andrea NC-91 headset that I think came with
> one of the Dragon apps.

Then I suggest you use or buy a decent microphone and then use it with WSR.

If you remember rightly, I started by using only the integral Mic within my
laptop for WSR and I will admit, I was probably getting only about 80%
accuracy. Since having this new Senneheiser, my dictation has shot up to as
near to 100% as you can get. I still get the odd mistake, but I do with
Dragon 10 also.

> I saved $15 by downloading the Microsoft macro-creation
> file to roll my own macros.

If it is the original WSR speech macro book written by Brad T, it is a very
handy thing to have if you are using WSR. You should try putting some of
your dictated documents through the 'Add from file' section. By doing this,
the words are analysed by the way you speak them. Or, put some of them in
the 'Train from text' section and train your speech recognition some more.
This will also add to the accuracy level. I got it for nothing because I am
disabled ;-)

Once I did this, I could not believe the accuracy level. It suited me fine
and the more you put in, the more ammunition it has to work with. Thus, the
accuracy level will rise also. You have also been advised before to add
words like 'aid' or bunch of words involving that word into the speech
dictionary. This is another way of training and for WSR to recognise
certain words. As I said before, I have no problem dictating the word
'aid'.

I believe I need first aid. I believe I need some aid in learning. I hope
he will come to my aid.

I just dictated those three sentences in about 10 seconds straight off with
no cheating, all with the word 'aid' in.

>> There is no such thing as 100% accuracy in ANY speech app
>
> I use accuracy figures to refer to _average_ accuracy, over
> a period of time. If I speak at a modestly slow rate say 80wpm,
> I have no difficulty filling up a page with no mistakes,
> say two hundred words for example.

I think we are agreeing on the same thing here. There is no such thing as
100% speech accuracy in ANY speech app, no matter how you dress it up.
(Repetitiveness).

>> ...and I do like to look back on what I have written...
>
> Not me, it distracts my train of thought.

By reading the same copied out text repeatedly at a fast pace as if it's a
competition, does not constitute towards your thoughts being distracted; a
child of 10 could do that. Again, no one dictates like that.
(Repetitiveness).

>> ...and as Marty's says, the words are on the page or
>> as soon as you say them...
>
> Yep, distracting my thoughts.

What thoughts? If the words are already on a piece of paper and you are
reciting them over and over again repetitively, you are not using any
thoughts that come from the mind because they are there in front of you.
That is hardly thinking it is.

> Try to think constructively with a tribe of monkeys
> jumping around inside your room.

I fail to see how it can be constructive if all you're doing is reading out
copied text repeatedly at speed, like a rabid monkey.

Thinking constructively takes time and care. In the end, the finished
product that I see on the screen, is precisely what I want to see, not some
useless copied out text that I could cut and paste much quicker anyway.
(Repetitiveness).

It is what my brain wants to see, not some useless text my mouth just spouts
out copied from somewhere else.

>> ...very accurate...

> Not yet for me, I may change my opinion a month from now.

Good luck but WSR is accurate enough for me and definitely faster than
Dragon to the screen. I hate the delay that Dragon possesses when
dictating. Perhaps that is something that Nuance can address in the future,
I may be inclined to try some more with it if they did.

>> ...and much faster than Dragon.
>
> Not yet for me, 96wpm versus 384wpm.

I have already explained that. It is not a competition or speed test. You
are beginning to repeat yourself again Mark and I am beginning to repeat
myself repeating the same answers. At this rate, I will become as insane as
you. (Repetitiveness).

Once again I am getting that feeling of déjà vu. You remember that word
don't you Mark, the French word that you didn't know the meaning of.

>I may change my opinion in a month, when I get more
>experience running WSR.

As I've said in the past, your opinion to me is about as important as a flea
farting and means nothing.

Why are you bothering anyway when you insist that your Dragon is far
superior? Stick with Dragon if it is your cup of tea.

> Non-issue with me, as I seldom if ever look at the screen
> when I am dictating,

You don't need to look at the screen if all you are doing is reading out
copied text repetitively, from a piece of paper. Once again, that is not
the way it was meant to be used. (Repetitive).

>because it distracts my train of thought,
> and interrupts the "flow" of those thoughts in my mind.

You mean the thoughts that are written down on paper first and then
repetitively spoken in an endless loop as though you were reading from the
Koran. (Repetitive).

>> The human voice only has to dictate something out of character
>> or at a slightly different tone to normal for any speech app
>> to interpret it properly to the words you want.
>> Thus, the occasional mistake will be there.
>
> I mostly agree, a stuffy nose from a cold will degrade accuracy
> for example.

Or early in the morning, for example when the vocal cords can sound
different from later on in the day. They human voice is not a machine.
After all, it is only human. Unlike a speech app, which is machine
orientated.

>
>
>> > -------------------------
>> > now is the time.....for all good men.....
>> > to come to the aid of.... their country
>> > -------------------------
>
> One interesting thing (to me) is where I broke the word "aid".
>
> Earlier I tried to break it thus:
>
> to come to the aid... of their country
>
> (notice the subtle difference in where I paused)
>
> ALL SORTS of mistakes occurred, such as:
>
> "to come to the eight of their country"
>
> - - - or - - -
>
> "to come to the aide of their country"

Um, written down repetitiveness. Not natural dictation.

> Seems that "aid" needed the words preceeding it,
> in order to figure out the correct word.

I have already explained. (Repetitiveness).

I do not have a problem with that word.

It does seem however that your Dragon has a problem spelling the word
'preceding' as you have shown above, once again proving that your speech app
is not 100% accurate, no speech app is.


andy t

"Mark Conrad" <none-> wrote in message
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>
>
> The version 10.0 full medical at $1,600 has a formidable
> 300,000 word built-in vocabulary, which can be added to
> by the user with even more words, if desired.

So what! I can do exactly the same with WSR as I can do with Dragon. Plus
I get a whole operating system with it at half the price that Dragon medical
costs.

> Now WSR is more than adequate for "everyday speech"
> and hobby use, but it will *NEVER* be able to compete
> with Dragon for business uses, such as medical or legal.

Never say never!

BTW, you are retired and you use Dragon for your use and your hobby. I use
WSR out of necessity, so it is no hobby of mine.

> All that said, I certainly would like to get WSR to perform
> better for me than it presently does, mainly as regards
> dictation speed and _quick_ and efficient text correction
> features like Dragon has.

I told you before, I have WSR and Dragon 10 and I find WSR easier to use and
quicker for my needs.
Maybe when I get my Dragon professional and Windows 7, I may use both then
decide which one is best for me.

> As regards my wish list, I wish the new "Airline 77"
> wireless microphone from Samson was two-way.

The Airline 77 is the poor man's Senneheiser 431 ll and in all the read ups
I have seen, the critics do not rate it all that much and that it suffers
from air frequency problems which means it picks up a lot of background
noise. This makes it not a great microphone for accuracy. That may well be
why it is cheap.

andy t

"Mark Conrad" <none-> wrote in message
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>> Once more for the record. Speech apps can and have been
>> known to spell words wrong on the screen. It has happened
>> to me with WSR and Dragon.

> Has not happened to me in 25 years of using speech apps
> of all brands, including WSR.

Bullshit!

Read one of my earlier posts showing your spelling mistakes using Dragon. I
see you conveniently did not comment upon that.

You're a little liar!

What about all the other spelling mistakes you have made in the past, over a
period of weeks, let alone 25 years.

Let's have another recap; consistantly, vitrolic, dispite, grammer,
embarassed, mistakingly, to name but a few and *ONE DAY* ago in your most
recent bullshit post, repitition and preceeded.

25 years my arse!

Even YOU cannot be that illiterate.

You used your Dragon Naturally Speaking to dictate those words.

Naturally, you are going to say you did not because you are little liar and
a cheat! All you do is recite the same words over and over again. Once
again, that proves nothing!

I reiterate, dictating properly and pronouncing the words properly will
probably bring you out at 25 to 30 words per minute. When I say proper
dictating, that does not mean what you do. Spouting out the same gibberish
lines, over and over and over again repetitively, like a deranged psychotic
so that the program can learn from the same format each time. A child could
do that as I mentioned before.

Chucker might be a recognised authority, but I go by what the eyes can see
and it has happened, a few times with me in *BOTH* Dragon and WSR where the
words have come up on screen spelt incorrectly. So it is not impossible for
it to happen because it has, to me.

Someone must have put those words spelt incorrectly in the apps dictionary
to begin with and that someone was a human! Humans are not machines and
they DO make mistakes sometimes.

I have then put them right in the speech dictionary and after doing that,
they come out being spelt correctly.

When I first got Dragon 10 and dictated the word *embarrassed*, it came out
on the screen with only one 'r'. I also pointed this out in one of your
past posts where you ALSO dictated the same word with the same mistake.

I then put this right in Dragon so it now spells it correctly.

In WSR, the word contemptible came out as *contenptible* and I had to
correct that.

Now, that might be a human failing where I had not pronounced those words
correctly in either app, nonetheless, that is how they came up on screen
until I corrected them and my voice was recognized with those particular
words and that it was spelt correctly in the correction process.

andy t

"Mark Conrad" <none-> wrote in message
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> In article <#>, andy t
> <none-> wrote:
>
>> ...natural dictation is not all about speed.
>
> I disagree, as do the vast majority of others.
>
> Speech recognition is a marginal technology.
>
> Take away the speed aspect, then there is not
> much left for the usual computer user.
>
> He/she might as well revert to using the
> computer keyboard.

Bullshit! I can dictate much faster than using a keyboard and think at the
same time as to what I want to write instead of writing or taping the words
first. What a waste of time that is.


> 96wpm versus at least 336wpm, it "proves"
> that WSR is at least 3 times slower than Dragon.

The same old words are over and over again. Boy, that will come in handy.

> That 96wpm is really pushing it, I feel a lot better
> dictating at a slower 80wpm with WSR.

You would say that, being an agent of Dragon. I find WSR much easier to use
and the end result is the same.


> Speed, speed, speed, that is the story.

You mean that is your story. You must be taking speed, speed, speed. On
and on and on and on.

andy t

"Mark Conrad" <none-> wrote in message
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> In article <>, andy t
> <none-> wrote:
>
>> Maybe when I get my Dragon professional and Windows 7,
>> I may use both then decide which one is best for me.
>
> That's the spirit, test them both.
>
> Keep in mind that it will be just as tough for you
> to give a fair test to Dragon, as it is for me to give a
> fair test to WSR.

I choose not to have it tough, WSR at the moment, is far, far easier to use
and if it is easier still in Windows 7, then I am not going to break a leg
trying to use the very slow on the screen Dragon. I will give Dragon
Professional a real good go with the help of a tutor and I will report back
fairly on which one is easier to use.

Bearing in mind, I have been told by various MVP's and speech experts, that
there is vast improvements in the Windows 7 speech program.


>> > I have a cheap Andrea NC-91 headset that I think
>> > came with one of the Dragon apps.
>>
>> Then I suggest you use or buy a decent microphone and
>> then use it with WSR.
>
> Waste of money, same headset performs accurately with
> Dragon at 336wpm, therefore it can't be the headset.
>
> Biggest waste of money on my part was when I fell for
> the "magic microphone" nonsense, wasting hundreds of
> dollars on very expensive Sennheiser models.

What a bunch of crap!

It is a well known fact, the better the microphone, suited to speech
recognition, the better your accuracy will be. I am living proof of this.

Senneheiser make some of the best microphones in the world. From the speech
recognition end to the professional singers end. Ask any professional
singer or microphone expert if there is a difference between that microphone
and an inferior trumped up one.

Since I've started using the Senneheiser MD 431 ll, probably the best
desktop, speech recognition microphone on the market, my accuracy level has
shot up tenfold and more than a marked difference between that and my Buddy
desktop mic. I am not dismissing the Buddy range, they are an excellent
microphone but the Senneheiser is amazing quality.

I will also stick my neck out and say, the Senneheiser ME3 headset is on a
par with the desktop version, and that is only because the microphone is
right by the mouth. I prefer the desktop version because I find a headset
uncomfortable around my head and also because I am incapable of taking it
off being disabled.

Short bursts using this microphone is fine for me, it is very accurate and
the background noise does not become an issue. The same can be said for the
desktop version Senneheiser. With this model on, I can listen to the TV,
have a fan on and STILL my dictation comes out with precision accuracy using
WSR.

andy t

"Mark Conrad" <none-> wrote in message
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> In article <#>, andy t
> <none-> wrote:
>
>> Why would I want to dictate a set of words...
>
> As a speed test, unless of course you are afraid to compare
> the speed of WSR against other speech apps.
>
>
>
>> ...already set down on a piece of paper?
>
> now is the time for all good men
> to come to the aid of their country
>
> Are you incapable of memorizing that short sentence?

No, but it seems that is ALL you can memorise. Take your meds and change
the record. I am not prepared to go over the same ground over and over
again with someone with dementia who keeps spouting out the same nonsense.


>> > now is the time for all good men
>> > to come to the aid of their country

Now is the time for your medicine I think. You really need serious help.

>> >
>> > 16 x 4 x 10 = 384wpm
>>
>> Um, repetition...
>
> Right, four repetitions to be precise.

Yes, they will come in right-handy for proper dictation.

>> > now is the time for all good men
>> > to come to the aid of their country
>> >
>> >
>> > 16 x 4 x 10 = 384wpm

Um, repeating yourself again. This is already been explained. Get some
early nights in would be my suggestion.

> Last time I checked, my dictation was "written down"
> into a computer file.

Yes, but how often are the same words in dictation repeated 16 times. Told
you, the program learns the format and words in the order you say them. The
more you repeat the same words, the easier it becomes. No one dictate's
like that, except you, but then you cannot remember the words in the first
place can you so you have to write or speak into a recorder to set them
down. What a waste of time!

> from a speed test which you are afraid to perform.

How old are you? 80 you say, why don't you start acting it. You have really
lost it and act like a child of 10. I do not need a speed test, my
dictation is fine and works great. I use it all the time as you can see
from these posts. GROW UP!

andy t

> "Mark Conrad" <none-> wrote in message
> news:290820092022271984%none-...
>> In article <#>, andy t
>> <none-> wrote:

Okay Mark you win. Whatever you say.

I am a changed man, you have converted me. LOL!

I'll leave you alone now so that you can argue with yourself in the
imaginary world of yours. Goodnight sweetheart.


M. Conrad, vous faites vraiment avez besoin de l'aide avec votre OCD
impliquant votre logiciel de dragon. Je me sens vraiment désolé pour vous,
enveloppé vers le haut dans un petit monde de vos propres avec votre
programme de dragon.

C'est une honte que vous et votre dragon ne pouvez pas orthographier
correctement.

Rappelez-vous juste, il n'est pas votre défaut que vous êtes un short de
plate-forme d'un plein paquet dans la tête. Regardez du bon côté, vous sont
dans le bon endroit, signifiant votre hôpital, où ils peuvent s'inquiéter et
s'occuper de vous.

Continuez juste à prendre votre médecine pour maintenir votre démence dans
le contrôle et vous jamais savoir, vous pourriez juste se rappeler où vous
avez laissé à votre slip la nuit dernière. You' ; l'instruction re indique
lui tout, mais moi blâme une partie de elle sur votre logiciel de dragon.

Ayez une grande vie !

Vous pauvre enfant mal orienté


Just a goodbye note from me as I know how much you enjoy French. ;-)


andy t

Mark Conrad <none-> wrote:

> andy t <none-> wrote:
>
>> Okay Mark you win. Whatever you say.

> You sir, have tunnel vision and emotional attachment to one
> particular speech app.

He has the vile trappings of a Marty sock puppet.

> FWIW, others have the same tunnel vision and emotional
> attachment to Dragon, poor souls.

Like Martin Markoe, until he started making money from selling
Windows Speech Recognition add-ons.

> I myself can not afford to have such an attitude because that
> would defeat what I am trying to do.

I am controlling my PC and dictating, efficiently. Currently using
Dragon NaturallySpeaking version 7 and Dragonfly. Dragonfly is a
must-have macro playback utility (currently usable only by python
programmers or highly skilled techies, while the programmer is
allegedly working on a user-friendly version) that allows
continuous command recognition. Continuous command recognition
allows speaking command phrases naturally just like continuous
speech recognition allowed speaking human phrases naturally. That
means you can produce a list of command words and combine them on
the fly just like you do with an ordinary human language. That
makes a huge difference. Adding a single word to the stupid
computer's vocabulary significantly increases its function when
combined with the other words. The version of DNS does not really
matter (I could use 8, 9, or 10). Unfortunately, Windows Speech
Recognition does not work at all for making Windows dance (command
and control), it is awkward. I tried using WSR with Vocala (that
allows CCR) but Vocala is lacking some necessary low level
functions like holding down a mouse button or a shift key.

"John Doe" <> wrote in message
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> Mark Conrad <none-> wrote:
>
>> andy t <none-> wrote:
>>
>>> Okay Mark you win. Whatever you say.

I was being facetious here, indicating the bullshit he was spouting, you
idiot!

> He has the vile trappings of a Marty sock puppet.

No, My name is andy t, and Marty's is Martin Markoe.

I am no sock puppet of anybody. I am my own man with my own name. What's
your excuse Mr. John Doe? Why don't you use your real name Mark Bender?
Having said that, Mark Bender is quite a Naff name, no wonder you changed
it!

I go by facts, not make believe made up lies that you spout out about people
that you are jealous of.

Martin Markoe is one of the most helpful guys I have had the pleasure to
talk to in these newsgroups. He has done nothing but help me with good
solid advice about speech recognition and I have learnt a hell of a lot from
him WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED!

I have also bought a microphone from him which I must say, is probably the
most important part of my setup and my accuracy level is virtually 100%.

I also notice he has helped other people and been polite, answered any
speech recognition questions for them.

> Like Martin Markoe, until he started making money from selling
> Windows Speech Recognition add-ons.

So what, good luck to him. Your jealousy becomes you! And you have one big
chip on your shoulder because you didn't make the grade.

You are just a 'John Doe' whose real name is Mark Bender who has been in
prison and is a waste of space!

That is why you did not get anybody answering you in your post of the
07/11/2009 apart from me.

Instead of trying to destroy someone else's credibility, take a long hard
look at yourself and the ask yourself why you did not get anybody replying
to that post.

I will tell you why. It is because nobody wants your help John Doe aka Mark
Bender because you are a fraud!

If anybody did want help regarding speech recognition, they would go to the
proper experts such as Martin Markoe or Lunis Orcutt or Rob Chambers, REAL
EXPERTS, not pretend ones like you!

> I am controlling my PC and dictating, efficiently. Currently using
> Dragon NaturallySpeaking version 7 and.....

<SNIP!>

WHO CARES!

andy t