Re: Windows Live Mail 2011 ( couple of questions )

Apart from what you have asked, WLM 2011 is not meant for Windows XP so
uptake of WLM 2011 is likely to be very slow unless Microsoft decides to
force on people who are using Windows Vista or Windows 7. Another good
news for competitors who are vying to get large market share of their
products! First it was IE9 now WLM 2011. What next?

Is Microsoft thinking of shutting down its business completely? How
much will they pay me to take it over from them?

hth




Rick wrote:
> Before I do anything, I will asking the group on a couple of questions
>
> First:
> Tell me what can WLM 2011 import for email format ?
> I have files in mbox, .eml, even just plain .txt
>
>
>
> Second:
> Filter ( Rules ) I hope they made this better...
> so can I filter on the header of a email and/or do complex filters
> (like eudora ) can...?
>
>
>
>
> Major Thanks ++
> Regards-
>
> Rick
>

No force involved...one has to download and install any version on Vista or Windows 7.


"Tester" wrote in message news:i8b8aj$ckh$...
Apart from what you have asked, WLM 2011 is not meant for Windows XP so
uptake of WLM 2011 is likely to be very slow unless Microsoft decides to
force on people who are using Windows Vista or Windows 7. Another good
news for competitors who are vying to get large market share of their
products! First it was IE9 now WLM 2011. What next?

Is Microsoft thinking of shutting down its business completely? How
much will they pay me to take it over from them?

hth

The force is exercised by stealth. For example last week I was
forced to update my Outlook Connector (for hotmail) otherwise I
was told I won't be able to download or send hotmail messages via
Outlook 2007.

Now I didn't have any problems with old outlook connector and I
was happily downloading all my spam messages from my unlimited
hotmail accounts. Why was I forced to update?

hth




"...winston" wrote:
>
> No force involved...one has to download and install any version on Vista or Windows 7.
>
> "Tester" wrote in message news:i8b8aj$ckh$...
> Apart from what you have asked, WLM 2011 is not meant for Windows XP so
> uptake of WLM 2011 is likely to be very slow unless Microsoft decides to
> force on people who are using Windows Vista or Windows 7. Another good
> news for competitors who are vying to get large market share of their
> products! First it was IE9 now WLM 2011. What next?
>
> Is Microsoft thinking of shutting down its business completely? How
> much will they pay me to take it over from them?
>
> hth

You did choose to install it(the Outlook Connector or Outlook Connector for Hotmail) and in doing so agreed to the terms and conditions of use.

I.e. you weren't forced.


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....winston
ms-mvp mail

"Cheng Heng" wrote in message news:...

The force is exercised by stealth. For example last week I was
forced to update my Outlook Connector (for hotmail) otherwise I
was told I won't be able to download or send hotmail messages via
Outlook 2007.

Now I didn't have any problems with old outlook connector and I
was happily downloading all my spam messages from my unlimited
hotmail accounts. Why was I forced to update?

hth




"...winston" wrote:
>
> No force involved...one has to download and install any version on Vista or Windows 7.
>
> "Tester" wrote in message news:i8b8aj$ckh$...
> Apart from what you have asked, WLM 2011 is not meant for Windows XP so
> uptake of WLM 2011 is likely to be very slow unless Microsoft decides to
> force on people who are using Windows Vista or Windows 7. Another good
> news for competitors who are vying to get large market share of their
> products! First it was IE9 now WLM 2011. What next?
>
> Is Microsoft thinking of shutting down its business completely? How
> much will they pay me to take it over from them?
>
> hth

Do Terms & Conditions actually say that you MUST UPDATE your Outlook
Connector for Hotmail? Does it actually specify for how long you can
continue using OL connector for Hotmail.

Why is Microsoft still developing OL Connector for Hotmail for XP users?
There is clearly double standards here - on one hand they don't
develop WLM for XP but they are quite happy to continue wasting time on
Outlook Connector for Hotmail! and it is thrusted on people's throats
otherwise you can't use OL to download hotmail messages as previous
poster had said. Does this mean that WLM (version 2009 (Build 14.XXXXX)
will face the same fate such that by next year people won't be able to
download hotmail accounts unless they buy Win7 and install latest WLM?
Is this not extortion by this behemoth and is anti-trust department
going to do anything about this? Please let me know who should I report
this so that something can be done before it is too late.

Mind boggles!

hth


....winston wrote:
> You did choose to install it(the Outlook Connector or Outlook Connector
> for Hotmail) and in doing so agreed to the terms and conditions of use.
>
> I.e. you weren't forced.
>

Excerpts of what you agreed(to).

1. 'It's a contract that governs your use of any Windows Live, Bing, MSN,
Microsoft Office Live, or Office.com services or software...'
2. 'We may change the service or delete features at any time for any reason'
3. 'We provide the service "as is," "with all faults," and "as available.'
4. 'We may also automatically download to your computer upgrades to the
software to update, enhance, and further develop the service.'

The Connector is an Office Outlook add-in not an XP add-in.
Office and Outlook runs on XP; WLM 2009 runs on XP, Vista, Win7;
WLM 2011 runs on Vista and Win7 (and Server 2008)

Hotmail, WLM, Office Connector are all Live services and software.
Your terms for Windows(any version are similar)

i.e. --> You install it, you agree...pretty simple.

What does the future bring ??? Evidently within items 1 through 4.


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....winston
ms-mvp mail

"Tester" wrote in message news:i8e6t8$7ot$...


Do Terms & Conditions actually say that you MUST UPDATE your Outlook
Connector for Hotmail? Does it actually specify for how long you can
continue using OL connector for Hotmail.

Why is Microsoft still developing OL Connector for Hotmail for XP users?
There is clearly double standards here - on one hand they don't
develop WLM for XP but they are quite happy to continue wasting time on
Outlook Connector for Hotmail! and it is thrusted on people's throats
otherwise you can't use OL to download hotmail messages as previous
poster had said. Does this mean that WLM (version 2009 (Build 14.XXXXX)
will face the same fate such that by next year people won't be able to
download hotmail accounts unless they buy Win7 and install latest WLM?
Is this not extortion by this behemoth and is anti-trust department
going to do anything about this? Please let me know who should I report
this so that something can be done before it is too late.

Mind boggles!

hth


....winston wrote:
> You did choose to install it(the Outlook Connector or Outlook Connector
> for Hotmail) and in doing so agreed to the terms and conditions of use.
>
> I.e. you weren't forced.
>

Obviously Microsoft feels an obligation to support those who paid
them good money for Outlook.
The same type of obligation doesn't exist for free programs.

Gary VanderMolen, Microsoft MVP (Mail)
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"Tester" wrote in message news:i8e6t8$7ot$...

Do Terms & Conditions actually say that you MUST UPDATE your Outlook
Connector for Hotmail? Does it actually specify for how long you can
continue using OL connector for Hotmail.
Why is Microsoft still developing OL Connector for Hotmail for XP users?
There is clearly double standards here -