Re: Windows is losing its grip on the desktop ..

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Doug Mentohl wrote:

> "I invite you to check Amazon¢s Bestsellers: The most popular items in
> Computers and PC Hardware list .. eight of the top 25 sellers are
> Linux-powered Asus Eee UMPCs"
>
> "Windows is losing its grip on the desktop .. if things continue in
> the way they have been, I¢ll be ready to say Windows is collapsing"
>
> http://practical-tech.com/operating-...legs/#more-152

Hahaha...
You bumbling idiot.
That's not what Redhat says BTW.

They say Linux desktop can't compete with Microsoft

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04...esktop_market/

Red Hat scurries away from consumer desktop market
By Kelly Fiveash
Published Thursday 17th April 2008 11:04 GMT
Linux and open source software giant Red Hat has abandoned plans to develop
a consumer desktop product because it cannot compete with the might of
Microsoft.


--
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Collector of soaps from around the globe.
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Moshe Goldfarb <> writes:

> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Doug Mentohl wrote:
>
>> "I invite you to check Amazon’s Bestsellers: The most popular items in
>> Computers and PC Hardware list .. eight of the top 25 sellers are
>> Linux-powered Asus Eee UMPCs"
>>
>> "Windows is losing its grip on the desktop .. if things continue in
>> the way they have been, I’ll be ready to say Windows is collapsing"
>>
>> http://practical-tech.com/operating-...legs/#more-152
>
> Hahaha...
> You bumbling idiot.
> That's not what Redhat says BTW.
>
> They say Linux desktop can't compete with Microsoft
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04...esktop_market/
>
> Red Hat scurries away from consumer desktop market
> By Kelly Fiveash
> Published Thursday 17th April 2008 11:04 GMT
> Linux and open source software giant Red Hat has abandoned plans to develop
> a consumer desktop product because it cannot compete with the might of
> Microsoft.

Huh? But Roy told us MS were going bust and Linux had 17%
already!?!??!?!

,----
| The firm said in a statement yesterday: “As a public, for-profit
| company, Red Hat must create products and technologies with an eye on
| the bottom line, and with desktops this is much harder to do than with
| servers.
|
|
| “The desktop market suffers from having one dominant vendor, and some
| people still perceive that today’s Linux desktops simply don’t provide
| a practical alternative.�
`----

Whoops. Looks like some of us were right and Spamowitz, Kent and Homer
were wrong. No surprise there then.

And this is wonderful! They should have got Willy Poaster on
board. Apparently HIS desktop worked for him 10 years ago! LOL!!

,----
| It’s encountered a variety of problems with developing the product
| including startup delays with resellers, hardware and market changes and
| “some multimedia codec licensing knotholes�.
`----

On 2008-04-17, Moshe Goldfarb <> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Doug Mentohl wrote:
>
>> "I invite you to check Amazon s Bestsellers: The most popular items in
>> Computers and PC Hardware list .. eight of the top 25 sellers are
>> Linux-powered Asus Eee UMPCs"
>>
>> "Windows is losing its grip on the desktop .. if things continue in
>> the way they have been, I ll be ready to say Windows is collapsing"
>>
>> http://practical-tech.com/operating-...legs/#more-152
>
> Hahaha...
> You bumbling idiot.
> That's not what Redhat says BTW.
>
> They say Linux desktop can't compete with Microsoft
>
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04...esktop_market/
>
> Red Hat scurries away from consumer desktop market
> By Kelly Fiveash
> Published Thursday 17th April 2008 11:04 GMT
> Linux and open source software giant Red Hat has abandoned plans to develop
> a consumer desktop product because it cannot compete with the might of
> Microsoft.
>
>

Moshe, you are crossposting a little bit too much from cola, can you
please cut down on volume. It makes it hard to talk about Ubuntu in
this forum. Just limit yourself to as few crossposts per day.

I think that that "desktop" was a Redhat project to make an
desktop that would be an alternative to Gnome, xfce, etc. Linux
already has a few desktops, for example Gnome.

i

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:23:55 +0200, Hadron wrote:

> Moshe Goldfarb <> writes:
>
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Doug Mentohl wrote:
>>
>>> "I invite you to check Amazonÿs Bestsellers: The most popular items in
>>> Computers and PC Hardware list .. eight of the top 25 sellers are
>>> Linux-powered Asus Eee UMPCs"
>>>
>>> "Windows is losing its grip on the desktop .. if things continue in
>>> the way they have been, Iÿll be ready to say Windows is collapsing"
>>>
>>> http://practical-tech.com/operating-...legs/#more-152
>>
>> Hahaha...
>> You bumbling idiot.
>> That's not what Redhat says BTW.
>>
>> They say Linux desktop can't compete with Microsoft
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04...esktop_market/
>>
>> Red Hat scurries away from consumer desktop market
>> By Kelly Fiveash
>> Published Thursday 17th April 2008 11:04 GMT
>> Linux and open source software giant Red Hat has abandoned plans to develop
>> a consumer desktop product because it cannot compete with the might of
>> Microsoft.
>
> Huh? But Roy told us MS were going bust and Linux had 17%
> already!?!??!?!

It's amazing isn't it?

These guys constantly lie.


> ,----
>| The firm said in a statement yesterday: ´As a public, for-profit
>| company, Red Hat must create products and technologies with an eye on
>| the bottom line, and with desktops this is much harder to do than with
>| servers.
>|
>|
>| ´The desktop market suffers from having one dominant vendor, and some
>| people still perceive that todayÿs Linux desktops simply donÿt provide
>| a practical alternative.¡
> `----
>
> Whoops. Looks like some of us were right and Spamowitz, Kent and Homer
> were wrong. No surprise there then.
>
> And this is wonderful! They should have got Willy Poaster on
> board. Apparently HIS desktop worked for him 10 years ago! LOL!!

If Redhat, one of the oldest Linux companies, can't make Linux work on the
desktop then Linux as a competitor to Windows is dead in the water.

The truth is, people just don't like Linux.
They want Windows and in increasing numbers Macs.

Redhat has figured this out, finally, and it's only a matter of time before
the others do as well.

Linux is a niche system that happens to be excellent for servers or
embedded devices.
As a desktop system it is useable, but people just don't like it.



> ,----
>| Itÿs encountered a variety of problems with developing the product
>| including startup delays with resellers, hardware and market changes and
>| ´some multimedia codec licensing knotholes¡.
> `----


--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:27:02 -0500, Ignoramus29232 wrote:

> On 2008-04-17, Moshe Goldfarb <> wrote:
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Doug Mentohl wrote:
>>
>>> "I invite you to check Amazon s Bestsellers: The most popular items in
>>> Computers and PC Hardware list .. eight of the top 25 sellers are
>>> Linux-powered Asus Eee UMPCs"
>>>
>>> "Windows is losing its grip on the desktop .. if things continue in
>>> the way they have been, I ll be ready to say Windows is collapsing"
>>>
>>> http://practical-tech.com/operating-...legs/#more-152
>>
>> Hahaha...
>> You bumbling idiot.
>> That's not what Redhat says BTW.
>>
>> They say Linux desktop can't compete with Microsoft
>>
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04...esktop_market/
>>
>> Red Hat scurries away from consumer desktop market
>> By Kelly Fiveash
>> Published Thursday 17th April 2008 11:04 GMT
>> Linux and open source software giant Red Hat has abandoned plans to develop
>> a consumer desktop product because it cannot compete with the might of
>> Microsoft.
>>
>>
>
> Moshe, you are crossposting a little bit too much from cola, can you
> please cut down on volume. It makes it hard to talk about Ubuntu in
> this forum. Just limit yourself to as few crossposts per day.

Will do...sorry.
xposting this one so you see it.


--
Moshe Goldfarb
Collector of soaps from around the globe.
Please visit The Hall of Linux Idiots:
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

On 2008-04-17, Moshe Goldfarb <> wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 09:27:02 -0500, Ignoramus29232 wrote:
>
>> On 2008-04-17, Moshe Goldfarb <> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Doug Mentohl wrote:
>>>
>>>> "I invite you to check Amazon s Bestsellers: The most popular items in
>>>> Computers and PC Hardware list .. eight of the top 25 sellers are
>>>> Linux-powered Asus Eee UMPCs"
>>>>
>>>> "Windows is losing its grip on the desktop .. if things continue in
>>>> the way they have been, I ll be ready to say Windows is collapsing"
>>>>
>>>> http://practical-tech.com/operating-...legs/#more-152
>>>
>>> Hahaha...
>>> You bumbling idiot.
>>> That's not what Redhat says BTW.
>>>
>>> They say Linux desktop can't compete with Microsoft
>>>
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04...esktop_market/
>>>
>>> Red Hat scurries away from consumer desktop market
>>> By Kelly Fiveash
>>> Published Thursday 17th April 2008 11:04 GMT
>>> Linux and open source software giant Red Hat has abandoned plans to develop
>>> a consumer desktop product because it cannot compete with the might of
>>> Microsoft.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Moshe, you are crossposting a little bit too much from cola, can you
>> please cut down on volume. It makes it hard to talk about Ubuntu in
>> this forum. Just limit yourself to as few crossposts per day.
>
> Will do...sorry.
> xposting this one so you see it.
>
>

Thanks. I don't personally mind trolling, I used to troll a lot in my
younger days and still do, just not as much. But, this ubuntu group is
a valuable resource and I would hate to see it trashed. I am guilty of
advocacy xposting also. But I try to keep it limited somewhat.

i

Ignoramus29232 wrote:

> I don't personally mind trolling, I used to troll a lot in my
>younger days and still do, just not as much. But, this ubuntu group is
>a valuable resource and I would hate to see it trashed. I am guilty of
>advocacy xposting also. But I try to keep it limited somewhat.

I bet you didn't troll by repeating the same lies, *hundreds of times*
for *years*, like the Flatfish/"Moshe" mentally-ill asshole.

"Moshe Goldfarb" <> wrote in message
news:5cnljl9ynua1.892tw0tyy05m$....
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:23:55 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>
>> Moshe Goldfarb <> writes:
>>
>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Doug Mentohl wrote:
>>>
>>>> "I invite you to check Amazonÿs Bestsellers: The most popular items in
>>>> Computers and PC Hardware list .. eight of the top 25 sellers are
>>>> Linux-powered Asus Eee UMPCs"
>>>>
>>>> "Windows is losing its grip on the desktop .. if things continue in
>>>> the way they have been, Iÿll be ready to say Windows is collapsing"
>>>>
>>>> http://practical-tech.com/operating-...legs/#more-152
>>>
>>> Hahaha...
>>> You bumbling idiot.
>>> That's not what Redhat says BTW.
>>>
>>> They say Linux desktop can't compete with Microsoft
>>>
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04...esktop_market/
>>>
>>> Red Hat scurries away from consumer desktop market
>>> By Kelly Fiveash
>>> Published Thursday 17th April 2008 11:04 GMT
>>> Linux and open source software giant Red Hat has abandoned plans to
>>> develop
>>> a consumer desktop product because it cannot compete with the might of
>>> Microsoft.
>>
>> Huh? But Roy told us MS were going bust and Linux had 17%
>> already!?!??!?!
>
> It's amazing isn't it?
>
> These guys constantly lie.
>
>
>> ,----
>>| The firm said in a statement yesterday: ´As a public, for-profit
>>| company, Red Hat must create products and technologies with an eye on
>>| the bottom line, and with desktops this is much harder to do than with
>>| servers.
>>|
>>|
>>| ´The desktop market suffers from having one dominant vendor, and some
>>| people still perceive that todayÿs Linux desktops simply donÿt provide
>>| a practical alternative.¡
>> `----
>>
>> Whoops. Looks like some of us were right and Spamowitz, Kent and Homer
>> were wrong. No surprise there then.
>>
>> And this is wonderful! They should have got Willy Poaster on
>> board. Apparently HIS desktop worked for him 10 years ago! LOL!!
>
> If Redhat, one of the oldest Linux companies, can't make Linux work on the
> desktop then Linux as a competitor to Windows is dead in the water.
>
> The truth is, people just don't like Linux.
> They want Windows and in increasing numbers Macs.
>
> Redhat has figured this out, finally, and it's only a matter of time
> before
> the others do as well.
>
> Linux is a niche system that happens to be excellent for servers or
> embedded devices.
> As a desktop system it is useable, but people just don't like it.

You mean you don't like it.

Ubuntu, Red Hat, Fedora, OpenSUSE and others -- many people do like it. 7
days to Unbuntu, 8.04 and 12 days for Fedora 9. In fact, I am downloading
the Ubuntu beta now, I want a sneak peek!

"Canuck57" <dave-> writes:

> "Moshe Goldfarb" <> wrote in message
> news:5cnljl9ynua1.892tw0tyy05m$....
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:23:55 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>>
>>> Moshe Goldfarb <> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Doug Mentohl wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "I invite you to check Amazonÿs Bestsellers: The most popular items in
>>>>> Computers and PC Hardware list .. eight of the top 25 sellers are
>>>>> Linux-powered Asus Eee UMPCs"
>>>>>
>>>>> "Windows is losing its grip on the desktop .. if things continue in
>>>>> the way they have been, Iÿll be ready to say Windows is collapsing"
>>>>>
>>>>> http://practical-tech.com/operating-...legs/#more-152
>>>>
>>>> Hahaha...
>>>> You bumbling idiot.
>>>> That's not what Redhat says BTW.
>>>>
>>>> They say Linux desktop can't compete with Microsoft
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04...esktop_market/
>>>>
>>>> Red Hat scurries away from consumer desktop market
>>>> By Kelly Fiveash
>>>> Published Thursday 17th April 2008 11:04 GMT
>>>> Linux and open source software giant Red Hat has abandoned plans to
>>>> develop
>>>> a consumer desktop product because it cannot compete with the might of
>>>> Microsoft.
>>>
>>> Huh? But Roy told us MS were going bust and Linux had 17%
>>> already!?!??!?!
>>
>> It's amazing isn't it?
>>
>> These guys constantly lie.
>>
>>
>>> ,----
>>>| The firm said in a statement yesterday: ´As a public, for-profit
>>>| company, Red Hat must create products and technologies with an eye on
>>>| the bottom line, and with desktops this is much harder to do than with
>>>| servers.
>>>|
>>>|
>>>| ´The desktop market suffers from having one dominant vendor, and some
>>>| people still perceive that todayÿs Linux desktops simply donÿt provide
>>>| a practical alternative.¡
>>> `----
>>>
>>> Whoops. Looks like some of us were right and Spamowitz, Kent and Homer
>>> were wrong. No surprise there then.
>>>
>>> And this is wonderful! They should have got Willy Poaster on
>>> board. Apparently HIS desktop worked for him 10 years ago! LOL!!
>>
>> If Redhat, one of the oldest Linux companies, can't make Linux work on the
>> desktop then Linux as a competitor to Windows is dead in the water.
>>
>> The truth is, people just don't like Linux.
>> They want Windows and in increasing numbers Macs.
>>
>> Redhat has figured this out, finally, and it's only a matter of time
>> before
>> the others do as well.
>>
>> Linux is a niche system that happens to be excellent for servers or
>> embedded devices.
>> As a desktop system it is useable, but people just don't like it.
>
> You mean you don't like it.
>
> Ubuntu, Red Hat, Fedora, OpenSUSE and others -- many people do like it. 7
> days to Unbuntu, 8.04 and 12 days for Fedora 9. In fact, I am downloading
> the Ubuntu beta now, I want a sneak peek!

Good for you. But many people do not. This is what needs to be addressed.

Hadron wrote:
> "Canuck57" <dave-> writes:
>
>> "Moshe Goldfarb" <> wrote in message
>> news:5cnljl9ynua1.892tw0tyy05m$....
>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:23:55 +0200, Hadron wrote:
>>>
>>>> Moshe Goldfarb <> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 03:15:47 -0700 (PDT), Doug Mentohl wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "I invite you to check Amazonÿs Bestsellers: The most popular items in
>>>>>> Computers and PC Hardware list .. eight of the top 25 sellers are
>>>>>> Linux-powered Asus Eee UMPCs"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Windows is losing its grip on the desktop .. if things continue in
>>>>>> the way they have been, Iÿll be ready to say Windows is collapsing"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://practical-tech.com/operating-...legs/#more-152
>>>>> Hahaha...
>>>>> You bumbling idiot.
>>>>> That's not what Redhat says BTW.
>>>>>
>>>>> They say Linux desktop can't compete with Microsoft
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/04...esktop_market/
>>>>>
>>>>> Red Hat scurries away from consumer desktop market
>>>>> By Kelly Fiveash
>>>>> Published Thursday 17th April 2008 11:04 GMT
>>>>> Linux and open source software giant Red Hat has abandoned plans to
>>>>> develop
>>>>> a consumer desktop product because it cannot compete with the might of
>>>>> Microsoft.
>>>> Huh? But Roy told us MS were going bust and Linux had 17%
>>>> already!?!??!?!
>>> It's amazing isn't it?
>>>
>>> These guys constantly lie.
>>>
>>>
>>>> ,----
>>>> | The firm said in a statement yesterday: ´As a public, for-profit
>>>> | company, Red Hat must create products and technologies with an eye on
>>>> | the bottom line, and with desktops this is much harder to do than with
>>>> | servers.
>>>> |
>>>> |
>>>> | ´The desktop market suffers from having one dominant vendor, and some
>>>> | people still perceive that todayÿs Linux desktops simply donÿt provide
>>>> | a practical alternative.¡
>>>> `----
>>>>
>>>> Whoops. Looks like some of us were right and Spamowitz, Kent and Homer
>>>> were wrong. No surprise there then.
>>>>
>>>> And this is wonderful! They should have got Willy Poaster on
>>>> board. Apparently HIS desktop worked for him 10 years ago! LOL!!
>>> If Redhat, one of the oldest Linux companies, can't make Linux work on the
>>> desktop then Linux as a competitor to Windows is dead in the water.
>>>
>>> The truth is, people just don't like Linux.
>>> They want Windows and in increasing numbers Macs.
>>>
>>> Redhat has figured this out, finally, and it's only a matter of time
>>> before
>>> the others do as well.
>>>
>>> Linux is a niche system that happens to be excellent for servers or
>>> embedded devices.
>>> As a desktop system it is useable, but people just don't like it.
>> You mean you don't like it.
>>
>> Ubuntu, Red Hat, Fedora, OpenSUSE and others -- many people do like it. 7
>> days to Unbuntu, 8.04 and 12 days for Fedora 9. In fact, I am downloading
>> the Ubuntu beta now, I want a sneak peek!
>
> Good for you. But many people do not. This is what needs to be addressed.



Why?
caver1